The Puppeteer Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 And well done George Burley. That second half more than matched anything I saw under McLeish or Smith. Incisive attacking football played at a high tempo, that's what George is all about, it's just a shame it's taken till today for it to click with Scotland. Also a shame that McFadden is suspended for a bizarre yellow card. But **** it. So long as the lads put in a performance like they did in the second half today then we'll have a chance. And I hope that'll be enough to see George keep his job and take Scotland into the Euro qualifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I'll echo that:smiley2: Only because I was waiting on them for my fixed odds, my 3 other teams were 2 up at half time. It's the most convincing my fixed odds have been for ages. Two 2 nils and two 3 nils:smiley2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrie Jambo Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 McLeish and Smith are meant to have done great jobs. Remind me which Euro championships or world cups we qualified for under they two? Burley was unlucky against both Norway and Holland away from home whe we missed good chances at 0-0 before being taken apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Great second half performance from the boys.Im worried tho as will be without JM for the Holland game and hes the best we have.His goal today was superb:10900: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 And well done George Burley. That second half more than matched anything I saw under McLeish or Smith. Incisive attacking football played at a high tempo, that's what George is all about, it's just a shame it's taken till today for it to click with Scotland. Also a shame that McFadden is suspended for a bizarre yellow card. But **** it. So long as the lads put in a performance like they did in the second half today then we'll have a chance. And I hope that'll be enough to see George keep his job and take Scotland into the Euro qualifiers. We saw glimpses of it against Iceland as well to be fair. However it will most likely be Burley's undoing than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 And well done George Burley. That second half more than matched anything I saw under McLeish or Smith. Incisive attacking football played at a high tempo, that's what George is all about, it's just a shame it's taken till today for it to click with Scotland. Also a shame that McFadden is suspended for a bizarre yellow card. But **** it. So long as the lads put in a performance like they did in the second half today then we'll have a chance. And I hope that'll be enough to see George keep his job and take Scotland into the Euro qualifiers. Think you've nailed it. The 2nd half is what Burley has in his mind when he sends the team out, the 1st half is what usually happens for some reason. We are going to have to be a bit tighter against the Dutch though. McFadden is a massive loss. The ****ing media should lay off the guy now and get behind the team for Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Think you've nailed it. The 2nd half is what Burley has in his mind when he sends the team out, the 1st half is what usually happens for some reason. We are going to have to be a bit tighter against the Dutch though. McFadden is a massive loss. The ****ing media should lay off the guy now and get behind the team for Wednesday. Was good to hear Mcfadden sticking up for him at full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mc Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 And well done George Burley. That second half more than matched anything I saw under McLeish or Smith. Incisive attacking football played at a high tempo, that's what George is all about, it's just a shame it's taken till today for it to click with Scotland. Also a shame that McFadden is suspended for a bizarre yellow card. But **** it. So long as the lads put in a performance like they did in the second half today then we'll have a chance. And I hope that'll be enough to see George keep his job and take Scotland into the Euro qualifiers. I agree. I thought we played some good football in a very open second half and didn't get any more silly bookings. I just hope we've saved our best night in front of goal for the Dutch because I think we'll have to score more than 1 to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Was good to hear Mcfadden sticking up for him at full time McFadden is one of the good guys and hasn't been brainwashed by the Old Firm. That's what happens if you are ambitious and decide to ply your trade at a higher level. If it wasn't for ****ing Brown he would be playing on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 McFadden is one of the good guys and hasn't been brainwashed by the Old Firm. That's what happens if you are ambitious and decide to ply your trade at a higher level. If it wasn't for ****ing Brown he would be playing on Wednesday. It's weird how he can be so good for Scotland yet finds himself playing at Birmingham. Was he really that bad at Everton? Is Birmingham really his level? I can't pretend I saw him play a lot for Everton, but he got a few goals, and one spectacular one in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 McLeish and Smith are meant to have done great jobs. Remind me which Euro championships or world cups we qualified for under they two? Burley was unlucky against both Norway and Holland away from home whe we missed good chances at 0-0 before being taken apart. To be fair to McLeish, last time round we were in a group with the two world cup finalists and a quarter finalist (Ukraine). We beat France home and away and came very close to qualifying. In terms of our group this time around, I'm not sure Burley could have been handed an easier group if he'd picked the teams himself. The second half performance today was easily the best of the campaign but some of the previous performances and results in this campaign have been nothing short of disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Think you've nailed it. The 2nd half is what Burley has in his mind when he sends the team out, the 1st half is what usually happens for some reason. We are going to have to be a bit tighter against the Dutch though. McFadden is a massive loss. The ****ing media should lay off the guy now and get behind the team for Wednesday. Yep I believe our all round play has been getting better under GB, apart from the wheels coming off the bogey in Norway of course. Why exactly did Faddie get booked by the way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 To be fair to McLeish, last time round we were in a group with the two world cup finalists and a quarter finalist (Ukraine). We beat France home and away and came very close to qualifying. In terms of our group this time around, I'm not sure Burley could have been handed an easier group if he'd picked the teams himself. The second half performance today was easily the best of the campaign but some of the previous performances and results in this campaign have been nothing short of disgraceful. I still think the majority of people underrate Norway and overrate Scotland. I said when the draw was made i'd be surprised if we finished above Norway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithyboy1975 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 as a nation we always think we are better than others, we always underestimate "smaller" nations and ultimately end up wi egg on our faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puppeteer Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 It's weird how he can be so good for Scotland yet finds himself playing at Birmingham. Was he really that bad at Everton? Is Birmingham really his level? I can't pretend I saw him play a lot for Everton, but he got a few goals, and one spectacular one in particular. I think Moyes has said he regretted selling McFadden. And I think part of the problem has also been that he's not really established himself in any particular position. Even today he was playing wide for some of the match then playing off Miller for the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 as a nation we always think we are better than others, we always underestimate "smaller" nations and ultimately end up wi egg on our faces. A nation of dismal jimmies never underestimates anyone. Negativity not over optimism is the main trait of the Scots nation. Anyway well done to the team. As with Zagreb they are not as good as you think they are when you impose your own style on the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puppeteer Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 To be fair to McLeish, last time round we were in a group with the two world cup finalists and a quarter finalist (Ukraine). We beat France home and away and came very close to qualifying. In terms of our group this time around, I'm not sure Burley could have been handed an easier group if he'd picked the teams himself. The second half performance today was easily the best of the campaign but some of the previous performances and results in this campaign have been nothing short of disgraceful. Yes, there's no doubt we've not performed as well as the previous campaign or that we've had an easier group. But let's face it, the challenge with Scotland isn't lifting ourselves for the big games, it's picking up the points in the smaller ones. We had some tremendous results and performances in the last campaign but ultimately it was a shocking performance against Georgia that cost us. Burley's reign so far has been plagued by bad luck and various other problems that I needn't go into. He's tried to get the team playing more attacking football and at last we've seen the fruits of that effort today. Unfortunately it might be too late. Perhaps being in the smaller group and playing fewer games has hindered our development even further. But for the miss in the first match against Norway and the sending off in the second we should be in a far stronger position than we are now. And neither of those are Burley's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 A nation of dismal jimmies never underestimates anyone. Negativity not over optimism is the main trait of the Scots nation. Anyway well done to the team. As with Zagreb they are not as good as you think they are when you impose your own style on the game. In a way. The normal attitude is "we can't even beat the likes of Macedonia/ Norway etc etc. We must be ****e." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 We should have been 2 or 3 down at HT. Holland are going to destroy us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I think Moyes has said he regretted selling McFadden. And I think part of the problem has also been that he's not really established himself in any particular position. Even today he was playing wide for some of the match then playing off Miller for the rest. Good point, imo his best position is playing behind the striker(s) in a sort of free role however thats not a position you really see that much these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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