Csaba's Broon Shoes Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The agent dealing with the two trialists from Portugal describes one of them as being a typical number 6 . What does he really mean by this term ? http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Driver-leaves-Hearts39-base-with.5498244.jp Is he a dirty player who gets booked every game runs through brick walls for the team , hard in the tackle , protects the back four, plays a short simple pass and never scores a goal . It's a number 9 we need who sniffs around the penalty box scoring goals from 2 yards comming of his backside or down the shin , never in the game but pops up in the last minute to take all the credit for a one nil win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The other lad is a striker however. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joao_Moreira Maybe not the most inspiring goals tally, but he is a young lad who has been loaned out to different clubs in his career. Not really had a run of 30+ games in any of the clubs according to wikipedia, but you never know I guess...he might do the business for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 A striker you say? We need a striker? Gosh this is such a shock to me. Why hasn't there been more threads about such an important point??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Maybe the fax was read upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Charlie-Brown Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 A typical number 6 is a defensive midfielder similar to how Karipidis and latterly Mrowiec played last season. Other examples are Number 9 Centre Forward or main striker and Number 10 player in 'the hole' or trequartista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 A typical number 6 is a defensive midfielder similar to how Karipidis and latterly Mrowiec played last season. Other examples are Number 9 Centre Forward or main striker and Number 10 player in 'the hole' or trequartista. I see a typical number 6 as a player like Xavi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I see a typical number 6 as a player like Xavi. Well both 6 & 8 are central midfield players however Xavi & Barcelona are a lot more skilled and attack minded than most teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I see a typical number 6 as a player like Xavi.Or Dave Mackay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Platini was always known as the archetypal no. 10 (a creative playmaking midfielder). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 A typical number nine for me conjures up images of John Robertson, Alan Shearer or Ally McCoist; players who will score lots of goals, or at worst: be in the right place at the right time to miss them. Yet how much do they cost and where would we get one? If the answer is Riccarton, then they need to prove it first beyond doubt in the U-19s. If the answer is elsewhere, then there will be 20 clubs in England willing to throw more money than we could ever dream about. The Portuguese lad (on trial?), and the Austrian that we've signed are hardly fitting that traditional bill, but at least they come to the club as 'strikers', or 'forwards'. That's about as much as I expected. But yes, it's telling that one new Portuguese player is a classic 'number 6', but the other doesn't have such a persuasive title. The star at the top of the Christmas tree is always the toughest bit to get right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200milesfromgorgie Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 i like number 33. do we have a 33 in our squad?if so he's going to be the best player this season.fact.end of. youre a hobo.generic comment. etc.etc.etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbauld Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 A no. 6 is a Vodka cup, sounds like one of Vlads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 i like number 33. do we have a 33 in our squad?if so he's going to be the best player this season.fact.end of. youre a hobo.generic comment. etc.etc.etc. The Number 33. The classic bus to Gorgie. Great times. Much better than the awful number one service. Three at once then nowt for an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'd say a typical number 6 looks something like an upside down g. My favourite number is 11. Has been for as long as I remember. Sorry guys, there's just no changing me, I'm sticking with 11. What a number! Good ol' 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 A typical number nine for me conjures up images of John Robertson, Alan Shearer or Ally McCoist; players who will score lots of goals, or at worst: be in the right place at the right time to miss them. Yet how much do they cost and where would we get one? If the answer is Riccarton, then they need to prove it first beyond doubt in the U-19s. If the answer is elsewhere, then there will be 20 clubs in England willing to throw more money than we could ever dream about. The Portuguese lad (on trial?), and the Austrian that we've signed are hardly fitting that traditional bill, but at least they come to the club as 'strikers', or 'forwards'. That's about as much as I expected. But yes, it's telling that one new Portuguese player is a classic 'number 6', but the other doesn't have such a persuasive title. The star at the top of the Christmas tree is always the toughest bit to get right. We could always use a fairy instead!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboy81 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The other lad is a striker however. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joao_Moreira Maybe not the most inspiring goals tally, but he is a young lad who has been loaned out to different clubs in his career. Not really had a run of 30+ games in any of the clubs according to wikipedia, but you never know I guess...he might do the business for us. Having a 5 year Valencia deal on your CV aint bad either. He must have shown good potential at one point, he's still young, maybe a few goals in the cesspit of pish that is the SPL is what he needs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Having a 5 year Valencia deal on your CV aint bad either. He must have shown good potential at one point, he's still young, maybe a few goals in the cesspit of pish that is the SPL is what he needs! Overly harsh description imo however it did make me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Overly harsh description imo however it did make me laugh Worryingly, it made me thirsty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200milesfromgorgie Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'd say a typical number 6 looks something like an upside down g. My favourite number is 11. Has been for as long as I remember. Sorry guys, there's just no changing me, I'm sticking with 11. What a number! Good ol' 11 meh, 33 is 3 times the number 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The strikers goal to game ratio isn't actually that bad.... 19 or so from 40 odd.... no one knows what this felly's going to be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 meh, 33 is 3 times the number 11 Hey, fair play, you've got me there. However, I would say it depends what you're looking for out of a number. I know my place and 11 suits me fine. Here's my reasoning 11: players in a team 11: time for tea and a biccy 11: minimum number of safety pints before watching Hearts or Scotland 11: number of teeth in a hobos face, his IQ and number of fingers 11: in 1913, the exact number of years since hibs had won the cup Oh it's no coincidence i like 11 AND it's a palindrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 We need a typical number 6 Much better than a defender in midfield. A specialist midfielder like that, if they are good, are worth their weight in gold, particularly if you have a shaky defence with somebody like Zaliukas in it. Would be happy if we signed a typical 6 who was decent, as I dont believe we have somebody that fits that billing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 i think of a typical number 6 as being a claude makalele (julien brellier) style defensive midfield player who breaks up the other teams attack and protects the back 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 We need a typical number 6 Much better than a defender in midfield. A specialist midfielder like that, if they are good, are worth their weight in gold, particularly if you have a shaky defence with somebody like Zaliukas in it. Would be happy if we signed a typical 6 who was decent, as I dont believe we have somebody that fits that billing. I'd agree. A good enforcer goes a long way. In a funny way, he might be what we need to attack more effectively. I would wonder who'd drop out mind you. I like Pala and Mikey and was hoping Blackie would turn out to play a big part too. S'pose it's horses for courses, squad game and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'd agree. A good enforcer goes a long way. In a funny way, he might be what we need to attack more effectively. I would wonder who'd drop out mind you. I like Pala and Mikey and was hoping Blackie would turn out to play a big part too. S'pose it's horses for courses, squad game and all that I guess it all depends what else there is to his game. Break up play and simple pass or Break up play and charge forward / spray the ball about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I guess it all depends what else there is to his game. Break up play and simple pass or Break up play and charge forward / spray the ball about At the risk of opening up a debate about him, i like Larry in the deep midfield role for this reason. He reckons its his best position. Allows him to get on the ball and dictate the play and as he's our best talent, we want him in the game as much as possible (and in a postion where he really cant hide or huff!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Mrowiec in the game we beat Dundee Utd 3-0 at Tynie seemed to be an ideal candidate for that role in the team when required however with him leaving (i think?) I suppose other options are required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200milesfromgorgie Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Hey, fair play, you've got me there. However, I would say it depends what you're looking for out of a number. I know my place and 11 suits me fine. Here's my reasoning 11: players in a team 11: time for tea and a biccy 11: minimum number of safety pints before watching Hearts or Scotland 11: number of teeth in a hobos face, his IQ and number of fingers 11: in 1913, the exact number of years since hibs had won the cup Oh it's no coincidence i like 11 AND it's a palindrome. sir, i doff my cap to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 At the risk of opening up a debate about him, i like Larry in the deep midfield role for this reason. He reckons its his best position. Allows him to get on the ball and dictate the play and as he's our best talent, we want him in the game as much as possible (and in a postion where he really cant hide or huff!) Well its funny, as I typed my post I thought about adding a para where I thought that Larry could do that role well if given it Say what you like about Larry but I simply dont think he is being asked to play his strongest position. Arguably wide right is his 3rd best, behind "combative" midfielder and simply attacking midfield Yes he plays wide right for Ghana, but have you seen his competition in the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Well its funny, as I typed my post I thought about adding a para where I thought that Larry could do that role well if given it Say what you like about Larry but I simply dont think he is being asked to play his strongest position. Arguably wide right is his 3rd best, behind "combative" midfielder and simply attacking midfield Yes he plays wide right for Ghana, but have you seen his competition in the middle? Kingston is too lazy and uninterested in team play to play in the centre of midfield. He can be carried out wide or off the striker if there are more hardworking players in the centre of midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Kingston is too lazy and uninterested in team play to play in the centre of midfield. He can be carried out wide or off the striker if there are more hardworking players in the centre of midfield. Possibly That said, he has appeared more interested and motivated in the team when he has been played in central midfield Its where he has shown his best form but he has not had a real run there, not as I recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 We need a typical number 6 Much better than a defender in midfield. A specialist midfielder like that, if they are good, are worth their weight in gold, particularly if you have a shaky defence with somebody like Zaliukas in it. Would be happy if we signed a typical 6 who was decent, as I dont believe we have somebody that fits that billing. Quite agree. I thought Karipidis did the job brilliantly till he had to replace Berra, to the point where we could happily say "Julien who?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Possibly That said, he has appeared more interested and motivated in the team when he has been played in central midfield Its where he has shown his best form but he has not had a real run there, not as I recall It is one of the reasons why our goals conceded column was better last season than the one before. When Kingston played centrally in the previous season he was regularly caught up field, lying on the ground pretending to be injured or walking back. Put too much pressure on the centre backs. Laszlo got it right about Kingston - cannot play him as one of the 2 central midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 i think of a typical number 6 as being a claude makalele (julien brellier) style defensive midfield player who breaks up the other teams attack and protects the back 4 If you search the internet, you can see that people were compering him to the great Makalel when he was younger, hopeful he will be even 25% of that player we will have a gem on our hands. By the way where did anderson at Man u come from was it Sporting lisbon as well ? This may sound like a hobo statment, but the striker looks like Eto ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo_Jambo Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 We could always use a fairy instead!!! We already tried Clum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Csaba refers to the number 6 position all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Csaba refers to the number 6 position all the time. referring to the karma sutra and Eggy though! Anderson went to Man U from Brasil i think or if not directly, it's where he started his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The other thing to bear in mind is that the teams we play against this year will be so full of attacking flair (Mowbray's Celtic, McGhee's Aberdeen and, not least, Hughes's Hibs) that the only way we're going to survive is by having good strong defenders and defensive midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaMbO JoE Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The agent dealing with the two trialists from Portugal describes one of them as being a typical number 6 . What does he really mean by this term ?http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Driver-leaves-Hearts39-base-with.5498244.jp Is he a dirty player who gets booked every game runs through brick walls for the team , hard in the tackle , protects the back four, plays a short simple pass and never scores a goal . You shoulda stopped there mate. I love the sound of that player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 i think of a typical number 6 as being a claude makalele (julien brellier) style defensive midfield player who breaks up the other teams attack and protects the back 4 Billy Higgins,Wilson Wood,George Millar were all no 6...god helpus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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