Seymour M Hersh Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 The Mail on Sunday is saying we have had the okay from Uefa re playing games at Tynie if we qualify. Apparently Campbell Ogilvy invited officials over and they will give us dispensation re pitch size if certain other demands are met. They included bigger technical area (apparently was being redesigned in any case) bigger dressing rooms, a bigger press room and provide an astro-turf warm up area. All achievable according to CO if the board (Vlad) give the financial go-ahead. Good news if it comes to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 The Mail on Sunday is saying we have had the okay from Uefa re playing games at Tynie if we qualify. Apparently Campbell Ogilvy invited officials over and they will give us dispensation re pitch size if certain other demands are met. They included bigger technical area (apparently was being redesigned in any case) bigger dressing rooms, a bigger press room and provide an astro-turf warm up area. All achievable according to CO if the board (Vlad) give the financial go-ahead. Good news if it comes to pass. It is excellent news, although I was told we'd be playing at Murrayfield, hopefully The Mail's correct, and the club's had a change of mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debtor Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 The Mail on Sunday is saying we have had the okay from Uefa re playing games at Tynie if we qualify. Apparently Campbell Ogilvy invited officials over and they will give us dispensation re pitch size if certain other demands are met. They included bigger technical area (apparently was being redesigned in any case) bigger dressing rooms, a bigger press room and provide an astro-turf warm up area. All achievable according to CO if the board (Vlad) give the financial go-ahead. Good news if it comes to pass. If he gives the go-ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Play at Tynecastle and double the ticket prices. No financial risk to the club. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I would more than happily pay double the ticket price if it meant we could play European ties at Tynecastle. IMO we have a better chance of success in Europe at Tynie rather than over the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Loverman Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 The Mail on Sunday is saying we have had the okay from Uefa re playing games at Tynie if we qualify. Apparently Campbell Ogilvy invited officials over and they will give us dispensation re pitch size if certain other demands are met. They included bigger technical area (apparently was being redesigned in any case) bigger dressing rooms, a bigger press room and provide an astro-turf warm up area. All achievable according to CO if the board (Vlad) give the financial go-ahead. Good news if it comes to pass. Sounds quite costly, however I'd prefer to play at Tynie even if it meant paying extra for a ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I would more than happily pay double the ticket price if it meant we could play European ties at Tynecastle. IMO we have a better chance of success in Europe at Tynie rather than over the road. Not sure if many will feel like that if we are playing someone form Iceland or St Patricks, or other small and relatively unknown teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Not sure if many will feel like that if we are playing someone form Iceland or St Patricks, or other small and relatively unknown teams. Saying we do get 3rd and Rangers win the cup - we will go into the final qualifying round. Hopefully this would mean only one game against a 'relatively unknown team' and then we might be lucky enough to get some of the big guns in the group stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 St Patricks I really hope we don't get them. Can't stick them after their hoolies attacked innocent Hearts fans before the game in Dublin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 It is excellent news, although I was told we'd be playing at Murrayfield, hopefully The Mail's correct, and the club's had a change of mind I think its one issue on which Hearts fans are united accross the board. We want to play European games at Tynecastle, not Murrayfield, and we should be shouting it unanimously from the roof tops before a decision is made that none of us agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 They wished they hadn't though I can still remember the picture on the front of the morning paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I can still remember the picture on the front of the morning paper. Hearts had a great support in these days, not a hand wringer in sight, and no internet for outsiders to stir things up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Not sure if many will feel like that if we are playing someone form Iceland or St Patricks, or other small and relatively unknown teams. Not sure we'd need Murrayfield for that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT's & Irons Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Sounds costly and IMO Vlad will not be spending that sort of money in the foreseeable future when we can play at Murrayfield and it won't cost him nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 shall not worry about it until we are in europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 we can play at Murrayfield and it won't cost him nowt. :saddam: Apart from hire of the stadium, more security, etc etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Hearts will be unseeded no matter what, and I'd fancy our chances of causing one upset, but not two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Hearts will be unseeded no matter what, and I'd fancy our chances of causing one upset, but not two. I wouldnt neccesarily bet on that. Our co-efficient is still fairly good and we could be be pretty close to the borderline between seeded and unseeded (in the final qualifying round) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Hearts will be unseeded no matter what, and I'd fancy our chances of causing one upset, but not two. Agreed - and I also think that playing at Tynecastle would make an upset more likley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I wouldnt neccesarily bet on that. Our co-efficient is still fairly good and we could be be pretty close to the borderline between seeded and unseeded (in the final qualifying round) We will be unseeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Sounds costly and IMO Vlad will not be spending that sort of money in the foreseeable future when we can play at Murrayfield and it won't cost him nowt. It costs quite a lot to play at Murrayfield with SRU rental, extra police, SRU cut off the pie stands, etc.....hardly nowt !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Question for you though Mr PB, if it was Celtic winning the cup that was best for Hearts, would you and your tag team still say the same? Of course I would, what a ridiculous question For probably the first time ever, I was disappointed when Celtic got knocked out yesterday, we needed an old firm final, and I'm on record as saying I don't want to lose the fact we're the only non old firm team to lift the cup in recent times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 The Mail on Sunday is saying we have had the okay from Uefa re playing games at Tynie if we qualify. Apparently Campbell Ogilvy invited officials over and they will give us dispensation re pitch size if certain other demands are met. They included bigger technical area (apparently was being redesigned in any case) bigger dressing rooms, a bigger press room and provide an astro-turf warm up area. All achievable according to CO if the board (Vlad) give the financial go-ahead. Good news if it comes to pass. In other words, build the new main stand. I don't see how all of those things could be achieved otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 With the exception of when thay're playing Celtic or Hibs, I've never wanted Rangers FC to win a game that didn't have an impact on Hearts, I'd appreciate if you stopped making things up to suit your twisted agenda Whats your interest or concern on the outcome of games between Rangers and Celtic ? Did you in fact EVER post on here that you were hoping for a Celtic win yeserday ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Whats your interest or concern on the outcome of games between Rangers and Celtic ? PickyBum may have money on an Old Firm encounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Of course I would, what a ridiculous question For probably the first time ever, I was disappointed when Celtic got knocked out yesterday, we needed an old firm final, and I'm on record as saying I don't want to lose the fact we're the only non old firm team to lift the cup in recent times. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 We will be unseeded. I'd spend some time, once the qualifiers are known, working out the possibilities before I'd hang my hat on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I'd spend some time, once the qualifiers are known, working out the possibilities before I'd hang my hat on that one. Every team in the entire competition will be in the last qualifying round. We will have 11.575 seeding points (or 133rd in Europe) - now assume 32 above us make the champions league and another 40 seeds above us in the Europa Cup too. We'll be unseeded. Unless we're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT's & Irons Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 It costs quite a lot to play at Murrayfield with SRU rental, extra police, SRU cut off the pie stands, etc.....hardly nowt !!! What I mean is that he will make his money back on that additional cost by selling additional tickets. He aint gonna make his money back for the required renovations at Tyney with a couple of 17,000 crowds. I, like everyone else would love to play these games at Tyney but I think our leader is more interested in the quick buck short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Spackler Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 All of those "requirements" are a load of pedantic p^%h! Majorca once played with a goal that wasn't even rectangular! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Of course I would, what a ridiculous question For probably the first time ever, I was disappointed when Celtic got knocked out yesterday, we needed an old firm final, and I'm on record as saying I don't want to lose the fact we're the only non old firm team to lift the cup in recent times. Ok let me explain. I dont know youI only see and interpret what I see on KB. You do come across as pro Rangers and anti Hibs / Celtic, im all for the latter its the former I find hard to stomach. You might be a nice guy and really bright in real life, on KB you come across as a bit of a neanderthal bigot, and I know you know that and even play up to it sometimes, fair do's if thats what floats yer boat. But even with all that im glad to see you still put the best interests of HMFC first. I guess this is typical of the hypocricy of being a football fan, and you probably have noticed I really have a dislike of all things old firm, and I really really do not like Hearts fans with Rangers style agenda's in fact in my opinion they are worse than old firm fans. Nothing makes me cringe and feel shame like a UJ in the Hearts end, im proud to be British and support the flag in just about any other arena, but in Scottish football terms it is im afraid a sign of bigotry, your own sig would seem to support this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Ok let me explain. I dont know youI only see and interpret what I see on KB. You do come across as pro Rangers and anti Hibs / Celtic, im all for the latter its the former I find hard to stomach. You might be a nice guy and really bright in real life, on KB you come across as a bit of a neanderthal bigot, and I know you know that and even play up to it sometimes, fair do's if thats what floats yer boat. But even with all that im glad to see you still put the best interests of HMFC first. I guess this is typical of the hypociry of being a football fan, and you probably have noticed I really have a dislike of all things old firm, and I really really do not like Hearts fans with Rangers style agenda's in fact in my opinion they are worse than old firm fans. Nothing makes me cringe and feel shame like a UJ in the Hearts end, im proud to be British and support the flag in just about any other arena, but in Scottish football terms it is im afraid a sign of bigotry, your own sig would seem to support this. In real life, I am a nice guy, pretty bright, a bit of a neanderthal bigot, and I've never taken a UJ to a Hearts game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I dont know youI only see and interpret what I see on KB. You do come across as pro Rangers and anti Hibs / Celtic, im all for the latter its the former I find hard to stomach. You might be a nice guy and really bright in real life, on KB you come across as a bit of a neanderthal bigot, and I know you know that and even play up to it sometimes, fair do's if thats what floats yer boat. But even with all that im glad to see you still put the best interests of HMFC first. I guess this is typical of the hypociry of being a football fan, and you probably have noticed I really have a dislike of all things old firm, and I really really do not like Hearts fans with Rangers style agenda's in fact in my opinion they are worse than old firm fans. Nothing makes me cringe and feel shame like a UJ in the Hearts end, im proud to be British and support the flag in just about any other arena, but in Scottish football terms it is im afraid a sign of bigotry, your own sig would seem to support this. Judge, jury and executioner alert. Incidentally, PB is indeed a "nice guy and really bright". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Sounds costly and IMO Vlad will not be spending that sort of money in the foreseeable future when we can play at Murrayfield and it won't cost him nowt. Rental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 In other words, build the new main stand. I don't see how all of those things could be achieved otherwise. According to the article there is room for the improvements in the existing stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Every team in the entire competition will be in the last qualifying round. We will have 11.575 seeding points (or 133rd in Europe) - now assume 32 above us make the champions league and another 40 seeds above us in the Europa Cup too. We'll be unseeded. Unless we're lucky. Having looked again at Kassies site it does appear a bit far fetched to say we'll have a chance of being seeded in Q4 of the Europa league. We should be seeded in Q3 if we have to play there though. Which means we'd likely play against what was previously known as an Intertoto qualifier. OKay you can get some horrendously bad draws there but it still doesnt make me passionate about Rangers winning the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Having looked again at Kassies site it does appear a bit far fetched to say we'll have a chance of being seeded in Q4 of the Europa league. We should be seeded in Q3 if we have to play there though. Which means we'd likely play against what was previously known as an Intertoto qualifier. OKay you can get some horrendously bad draws there but it still doesnt make me passionate about Rangers winning the cup. World class backpedaling by OAG. Great to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 World class backpedaling by OAG. Great to watch. Was thinking that myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 World class backpedaling by OAG. Great to watch. Admission that I may have miscalculated on my research. Playground post IMO, not untypical of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Was thinking that myself Love it when you support your wee mate like that. Its touching really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Admission that I may have miscalculated on my research. Translate: I made an arse of myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Admission that I may have miscalculated on my research. aka backpedaling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 aka backpedaling If using that term makes you erect then crack on. I'll have to backpedal a lot further before my credibility gets down at your level though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 This thread looks like its been hijacked into an argument between Therapist and OAG, but here is my thoughts on using Tynie for European games. I'm not sure how many games are guaranteed for the group stages, but perhaps we could sell packages that balanced the cost out for the more attractive vs less attractive teams. Lets look at our stats for competitive games played at Murrayfield - we have won two games (Braga, Bosnian Team in CL Qualifiers), and lost 4 (Ferencvaros, Shalke, AEK, Sparta Prague). The two teams we beat at Murrayfield we could have beaten at Tynie, but I think we may have done better in all of the others, winning at least 2 of the 4. The atmosphere at Murrayfield is dead unless you get at least 45k. Its a neutral venue and we lose our home advantage and take the pressure off the away team. Its down to a choice between short term gain through the cash at the gates for Murrayfield (assuming you draw an attractive team), and progressing, earning more in bonuses plus extra game income. I'm just glad that Tony Mowbray saw Murrayfield as giving us home advantage and insisted on us playing them in the semi at Hampden on 02.04.06. Hibs may even have won if the game had been at Murrayfield, considering our record there! Anyway, I really hope Hearts do stick to Tynie for Europe and raise the prices to cover for bigger games. I'm speculating that it would take 25k+ at Murrayfield for us to get the same as a sell-out at Tynie, once the SRU took their cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I can still remember the picture on the front of the morning paper. Still have the front page -- am in one of the other pictures near the bus park -- what a great couple of days in Dublin -- the Sportsmans bar upstairs, the Guiness tour (sorry no thanks can you show us to the free bar !!) The trip home via Belfast was fun too -- ignorance of the true situation at the time meant a nice walk from railway station to railway station through some choice areas -- first time I'd ever seen pavements in various shades of colour:earmuffs: They really did not like us though -- I think the trip up and down O'connell Street by the Belfast Hearts boys with a loud hailer was possibly the problem ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 In real life, I am a nice guy, pretty bright, a bit of a neanderthal bigot, and I've never taken a UJ to a Hearts game Thanks for your honesty, I respect that. Judge, jury and executioner alert. Incidentally, PB is indeed a "nice guy and really bright". Nice one, when I want you to answer a question, I will ask you one BB. Thanks for proving the tag team point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flimsy Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Every team in the entire competition will be in the last qualifying round. We will have 11.575 seeding points (or 133rd in Europe) - now assume 32 above us make the champions league and another 40 seeds above us in the Europa Cup too. We'll be unseeded. Unless we're lucky. Here is the projected seedings in next season's Europa Cup. It is based on current league positions and co-efficients. Obviously, these could change and there could be shock results once the tournament gets going but it looks almost certain that Hearts would be seeded in Q2 and Q3 and unseeded in Q4. http://www.uclpredictions.ucoz.com/0809/uc0910.htm Bearing in mind that every knockout tie Hearts have played in Europe in the last decade has gone with seeding, Hearts will have a tough job getting to the group stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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