jamboinglasgow Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I know this is not often said but well done to Frail. http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1558767,00.html coming on and rubbishing the papers for claiming he has not got paid by Romanov. Another week and we the see again that the papers will print anything. Also I know Frail was not a great manager but he was a good youth coach and so its good to see that he is now an important part of the Scottish FA's youth initiative coaching programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Frail takes time to say that the stories about him being due monies from hearts were a lot of fairy tales made up by the two story tellers that he met. Stephen Frail took time out of his busy schedule within the Scottish FA's youth initiative coaching programme this morning to dismiss suggestions in a couple of Sunday newspapers that he was waiting for any payment from Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov or the club. Stevie was quick to call Hearts News this morning to dispel any suggestion that he was waiting for payment. He said: "I don't know where that came from. I certainly spoke to both journalists but I can confirm that I was paid everything I was due at the end of my spell with Hearts. "I really hope that these articles don't mislead the fans or other clubs and that's why I want to make the situation absolutely Hmm confirms that a lot of bull**** is spread about our club . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Frail takes time to say that the stories about him being due monies from hearts were a lot of fairy tales made up by the two story tellers that he met. Hmm confirms that a lot of bull**** is spread about our club . If what SF says is true (that he has been fully paid), I think it is time HMFC were taking legal action against these papers and making an example of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I know this is not often said but well done to Frail. http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1558767,00.html coming on and rubbishing the papers for claiming he has not got paid by Romanov. Another week and we the see again that the papers will print anything. Also I know Frail was not a great manager but he was a good youth coach and so its good to see that he is now an important part of the Scottish FA's youth initiative coaching programme. Good of Frail to come out and put the record straight and i am assuming Vlad will now be suing the paper concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I know this is not often said but well done to Frail. http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1558767,00.html coming on and rubbishing the papers for claiming he has not got paid by Romanov. Another week and we the see again that the papers will print anything. Also I know Frail was not a great manager but he was a good youth coach and so its good to see that he is now an important part of the Scottish FA's youth initiative coaching programme. He didn't need to do that. Well done Shaggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Well done Stevie Frail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 any idea who the two journalists are who were reporting that Frail hadn't been paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 It was definately in the Sunday Mail yesterday, hopefully it was Waddell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If what SF says is true (that he has been fully paid), I think it is time HMFC were taking legal action against these papers and making an example of them. Not sure if legal action would get any where accept a tiny bit on page 48 under the chat line adverts saying sorry we got it wrong ,but it shows people should not get worked up over newspaper talk until they get the real facts for themselves. Newspapers/reporters (wont call them journalists because they are not of that class) always have an agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe.gausden Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If what SF says is true (that he has been fully paid), I think it is time HMFC were taking legal action against these papers and making an example of them. Agree 100%. It's about time we hit back at these lying barstewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Of course Vlad may have imposed the gagging order and forced Frail to retract ... Would have been more convincing if Frail had spoken to someone other than Hearts World. Not that I am particularly bothered. Lomg running disputes about compensation on leaving are hardly news, except where Hearts are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 any idea who the two journalists are who were reporting that Frail hadn't been paid? Scott Mcdermott,Sunday mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawberry2 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 It was Scott McDermott from the Sunday Mail that was the reporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The BACS is now on recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 any idea who the two journalists are who were reporting that Frail hadn't been paid? Scott McDermott (who?) put his name to the story in the Sunday Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I read one of these articles yesterday morning before i returned home in either the NOTW or the Sunday Mail. Would be nice to see their names on here so that a few complaints could be sent to the relevant newspapers and an official statement released by the club about banning these individuals until public apologise are made and it would be interesting to find out why they have written the untruths in the 1st place. Name and shame them. Breath my wont holding be. I doth my cap to you Stephen Frail. Bravo sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambojambo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Of course Vlad may have imposed the gagging order and forced Frail to retract ... Would have been more convincing if Frail had spoken to someone other than Hearts World. Not that I am particularly bothered. Lomg running disputes about compensation on leaving are hardly news, except where Hearts are concerned. ER...does a gagging order mean you can't issue any public statements including retractions? Also who should Frail have spoken to? Do you really think any paper would want to print a story that was not negative against Romanov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rev Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Well done Stevie Frail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Why didnt we read anything about all the back money Chris Burke was overdue until he was 'sold' to Cardiff effectively a free transfer as far as Rangers were concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Why didnt we read anything about all the back money Chris Burke was overdue until he was 'sold' to Cardiff effectively a free transfer as far as Rangers were concerned. Maybe nobody knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Maybe nobody knew. If it is the case, I would imagine it was a case of nobody wanted to know, never mind print it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboruss Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 No doubt we'd be wasting our time but here's the Sunday hun's contact e-mail address: [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Stevie Frail has taken a lot of stick on here from some. Never had any reason myself to have a go. Was working under incredibly difficult conditions at a level higher than he was ready for (even if conditions had been perfect). He consistently reiterated the fact that he could not quit as he had a family to look after and a mortgage to pay so those who come on here and call him ''spineless'' and the like are a bit out of order imo. Well done on coming out and stating the fact Stevie, it wasn't necessary but its nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If it is the case, I would imagine it was a case of nobody wanted to know, never mind print it. I don't know why people act surprised or question the reporting of football within the Scottish media Cigaro. It's completely geared towards the OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboceej Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Stevie Frail has taken a lot of stick on here from some. Never had any reason myself to have a go. Was working in under incredibly difficult conditions at a level higher than he was ready for (even if conditions had been perfect). He consistently reiterated the fact that he could not quit as he had a family to look after and a mortgage to pay so those who come on here and call him ''spineless'' and the like are a bit out of order imo. Well done on coming out and stating the fact Stevie, it wasn't necessary but its nice to see. Agree completely. He should never have been given the job but that's hardly his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Why didnt we read anything about all the back money Chris Burke was overdue until he was 'sold' to Cardiff effectively a free transfer as far as Rangers were concerned. I heard something about this? Was it true that in a roundabout way the ?150k transfer fee;) went straight into Burke`s hip pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I don't know why people act surprised or question the reporting of football within the Scottish media Cigaro. It's completely geared towards the OF. What?! When did this happen? I only read papers on a Sunday, and that because I'm at work and they are lying about in the canteen. If we lose, I skim over it quickly, if we win I read the reports. All my football news comes from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 What?! When did this happen? I only read papers on a Sunday, and that because I'm at work and they are lying about in the canteen. If we lose, I skim over it quickly, if we win I read the reports. All my football news comes from here. I try and not read them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Stevie Frail: I'm still owed money by Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov Feb 15 2009 By Scott Mcdermott STEVIE FRAIL has revealed he's still to be paid up by Hearts and admits he was disappointed when Jambos supremo Vladmir Romanov had a pop at him when he left. Former Tynecastle boss Frail was in charge for six turbulent months before being publicly dismissed by Lithuanian owner Romanov. He was ordered to stay away from training in July as Hearts started a search for a new manager. Frail has never criticised the club or their mad cap owner. But he admits he was hurt by Romanov's comments - when he claimed Frail would have been sacked anyway if he'd been Hearts boss from the start of last season. Stevie said: "I loved every minute of my time as Hearts manager. No-one could fail to learn from the experience. "There were so many players of different nationalities and managing such a mixed group was challenging. "I feel my record was good and that people will look favourably on that if another opportunity arises. "But I won't fully sever my ties with the club until I get the financial side sorted out. "I was disappointed at the way things ended. I could have got involved in a war of words but I kept my dignity. "Then Romanov says if I'd been there since the start of the season I'd still have got the sack. It was unnecessary and disrespectful." After six months out of the game Frail is now overseeing youth initiatives at Scottish clubs as part of the SFA's coaching programme. Stevie said: "The SFA have a good youth programme and it's my job to make sure it is properly implemented. "I make sure clubs have the right coaches, training practices and facilities. From next year itwill be mandatory from Under-17s down toU-11s. "I miss the intensity of working day to day at a club like Hearts. It's not a come down but it is very different. "My ambition is still to get back in to management and the SFA are fully aware and supportive of that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBjambo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Top man Stevie, Well done! Make the lying bar-stewards print a retraction... go after them HMFC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootboy100 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Maybe now fans will learn that when the rags print stories that we should not take them literally as being the gospel truth whatsoever!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboruss Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 No doubt we'd be wasting our time but here's the Sunday hun's contact e-mail address: [email protected] .............or maybe George Cheyne, sports editor would be better. [email protected] Here's my effort, sent today. Mr. Cheyne, no doubt now that one of your hacks, Scott Mcdermott has been exposed as telling blatant lies, the long suffering Hearts supporters, Heart of Midlothian F.C. and in particular Stevie Frail can surely expect a full apology? I await with bated breath. Of course, only until the next batch of mischief making and anti Hearts rubbish is printed in your incredibly biased west of scotland rag. ( In my opinion ) sincerely R Young Penicuik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Maybe nobody knew. Someone did:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 ****ing unbelievable.... and yet so believable. why are these clowns still allowed into tynie and riccarton? we should have had the whole lot banned well before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupid Sexy Flanders Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 .............or maybe George Cheyne, sports editor would be better. [email protected] Here's my effort, sent today. Mr. Cheyne, no doubt now that one of your hacks, Scott Mcdermott has been exposed as telling blatant lies, the long suffering Hearts supporters, Heart of Midlothian F.C. and in particular Stevie Frail can surely expect a full apology? I await with bated breath. Of course, only until the next batch of mischief making and anti Hearts rubbish is printed in your incredibly biased west of scotland rag. ( In my opinion ) sincerely R Young Penicuik I sent something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 ER...does a gagging order mean you can't issue any public statements including retractions? Also who should Frail have spoken to? Do you really think any paper would want to print a story that was not negative against Romanov? First, my post was just an attempt to pre-empt the obvious conspiracy theory. Second, maybe not - but it would be even more damning if Frail had asked the papers concerned to retract their story. Perhaps he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambojambo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 First, my post was just an attempt to pre-empt the obvious conspiracy theory. Second, maybe not - but it would be even more damning if Frail had asked the papers concerned to retract their story. Perhaps he has. indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Presume everyone that slated and abused him will take what "the waste of space" says with a pinch of salt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Well done Stevie. It shows once more that he is a really decent guy who cares about the club because he really didn't need to do that. Also just shows the idiots that we have to suffer in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I heard something about this? Was it true that in a roundabout way the ?150ktransfer fee;) went straight into Burke`s hip pocket? If you play Football Manager you are very much aware how much it costs to boot a player from his contract when offering the old "mutual termination" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmmgcycbwc Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I know this is not often said but well done to Frail. http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1558767,00.html coming on and rubbishing the papers for claiming he has not got paid by Romanov. Another week and we the see again that the papers will print anything. Now we can look forward to attacks on Frail in all our wonderful Scottish Media outlets. I suspect telling the truth may harm his career; I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Thing is in the Sunday Mail, the reporter doesnt actually mention that Frail is due money. It's the headline writers at it again. One of my mates is a journo and this peevs him off from time to time. He submits a story with either no bias, or what he sees is the correct slant and the sub-editors slap a ridiculous headline on it having tried to sensationalise an unsensational quote or story. Not standing up for the ****bags, just the way it is i reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dover Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Normally these articles are completely sensationalised and in truth just contain a rehashed load of Rumour and suggestion - source within etc etc. However this article contains what are alleged to be CLEAR QUOTES from SF ? Can this be allowed to go unpunished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I really hope the club sue Mirror Group over this. At the very least, a retraction and apology on the back page should be demanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winningways Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Stevie Frail has taken a lot of stick on here from some. Never had any reason myself to have a go. Was working under incredibly difficult conditions at a level higher than he was ready for (even if conditions had been perfect). He consistently reiterated the fact that he could not quit as he had a family to look after and a mortgage to pay so those who come on here and call him ''spineless'' and the like are a bit out of order imo. Well done on coming out and stating the fact Stevie, it wasn't necessary but its nice to see. I agree. Stevie Frail gave 110% to Hearts.Maybe the results did not go in the right direction in the short time he was in charge of the team but he did walk away with his head held high and does not deserve the stick he gets from some quarters.Sure it wont be long before he gets another opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Scottish journalists spouting sheite about Hearts shocker! Well done for showing them up Shaggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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