Dalstonjambo Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Apologies if this is a bit of a dodgy subject - but I want to know why this guy hasn't been banned from Rangers for life straight away as they know his details. Why aren't the SPL and Government/Police all over Rangers... oh wait... Makes my blood boil!! http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Rangers-fan-fined-for-singing.4925433.jp Rangers fan fined for singing sectarian songs on train trip Published Date: 29 January 2009 A RANGERS fan arrested at Waverley Station for singing sectarian songs on a late-night train from Glasgow said he had "one or two drinks" after a game. Stuart Burgess, 45, a delivery driver from Broomfield Crescent, Edinburgh, was fined ?375 at the city's Sheriff Court yesterday after pleading guilty to committing a breach of the peace on the train between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh Waverley on September 21 last year. Sheriff Frank Crowe was told that Burgess had been shouting, swearing and singing sectarian songs on the journey back. Defence solicitor, Peter O'Neill, said his client was deeply ashamed. "He had one or two drinks in Glasgow with friends and caught the last train back," said Mr O'Neill. "He was sitting with other Rangers fans and some began singing Rangers songs. "They started off 'clean' but then became sectarian. The guard came and told them to be quiet. One of the group became offensive towards the guard and Mr Burgess intervened." Mr O'Neill added that Burgess still went to Rangers games, but never had a drink in Glasgow. ****Why is he allowed to still go?! **** of the earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Possibly wasn't banned as it didn't happen at the match. If there's any connection to football when the songs are sung, though, that should earm a banning order IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The guys obviously a typical Weedgie **** but his behaviour on the train is not relevant to his attendance at Ibrox. Get off your high horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 But they are talking about cleaning up all instances of sectarainism related to their (joke of a) club. So he should get banned. This would send out a message that it's not acceptable anywhere. Same as they are saying they will ban those people causing trouble in manchester. The fact it wasn't at a game is incidental, he was on his way home from a game, he was representing Rangers. They are a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Possibly wasn't banned as it didn't happen at the match. If there's any connection to football when the songs are sung, though, that should earm a banning order IMO. It's like John Barnes used to say, you can persuade and encourage people to behave for 90 minutes inside a stadium but that's doesn't mean that bigots stop becoming bigots or don't revert to type by the time they reach the train station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Why are you so upset? Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 I'm upset because both celtic and rangers continue to get away with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven98 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Possibly hiring someone called Peter O'Neill to conduct his defence wasn't the smartest move either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 But they are talking about cleaning up all instances of sectarainism related to their (joke of a) club. So he should get banned. This would send out a message that it's not acceptable anywhere. Same as they are saying they will ban those people causing trouble in manchester. The fact it wasn't at a game is incidental, he was on his way home from a game, he was representing Rangers. They are a disgrace. Don't be so silly. "He was representing Rangers". What a load of nonsense. He may well be representative of a section of their support but to claim he was representing them. Behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 But they are talking about cleaning up all instances of sectarainism related to their (joke of a) club. So he should get banned. This would send out a message that it's not acceptable anywhere. Same as they are saying they will ban those people causing trouble in manchester. The fact it wasn't at a game is incidental, he was on his way home from a game, he was representing Rangers. They are a disgrace. If its on a train,what has it got to do with rangers,so if somebody on the same train sang anti-english songs,where should they be banned from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupid Sexy Flanders Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 A wise man once said: "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 a chinese curse says ' may you live in interesting times.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S.U.S.S. Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Rangers fans sings naughty song on train. Hang him. Wasnt at the game so no, i dont think he should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Ban the hun supporting **** from Edinburgh (and that goes for all ****ing glory hunting old-firm ****s from Edinburgh)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Banned from where, ScotRail trains? Calm down dear it's only a wee song. And Jocam325 - Weegie??? That's some Glasgow address he's got there:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I agree he shouldn't be banned but I guess where does it end. The ones who rioted in Manchester were not in the game itself however you can bet they'll be banned for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S.U.S.S. Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Ban the hun supporting **** from Edinburgh (and that goes for all ****ing glory hunting old-firm ****s from Edinburgh)! Very good your the uber jambo. Perhaps he is from glasgow and moved here with family or work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S.U.S.S. Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I agree he shouldn't be banned but I guess where does it end. The ones who rioted in Manchester were not in the game itself however you can bet they'll be banned for life. The travelled with the team there, and perhaps were involved in violence, its for the court to decide. But simply being a rangers fan on a train singing a bad song nowhere near the game is no cause for a ban as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Apologies if this is a bit of a dodgy subject - but I want to know why this guy hasn't been banned from Rangers for life straight away as they know his details. Why aren't the SPL and Government/Police all over Rangers... oh wait... Makes my blood boil!! http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Rangers-fan-fined-for-singing.4925433.jp Rangers fan fined for singing sectarian songs on train trip Published Date: 29 January 2009 A RANGERS fan arrested at Waverley Station for singing sectarian songs on a late-night train from Glasgow said he had "one or two drinks" after a game. Stuart Burgess, 45, a delivery driver from Broomfield Crescent, Edinburgh, was fined ?375 at the city's Sheriff Court yesterday after pleading guilty to committing a breach of the peace on the train between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh Waverley on September 21 last year. Sheriff Frank Crowe was told that Burgess had been shouting, swearing and singing sectarian songs on the journey back. Defence solicitor, Peter O'Neill, said his client was deeply ashamed. "He had one or two drinks in Glasgow with friends and caught the last train back," said Mr O'Neill. "He was sitting with other Rangers fans and some began singing Rangers songs. "They started off 'clean' but then became sectarian. The guard came and told them to be quiet. One of the group became offensive towards the guard and Mr Burgess intervened." Mr O'Neill added that Burgess still went to Rangers games, but never had a drink in Glasgow. ****Why is he allowed to still go?! **** of the earth I dont see what your problem is to be honest not like it was at ibrox. Rangers cant police there fans 24 hours a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Moon Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 He done something wrong. He got fined. Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Apologies if this is a bit of a dodgy subject - but I want to know why this guy hasn't been banned from Rangers for life He was done for breach of the peace. It was on a train, nowhere near Ibrox. I know loads of Hearts fans who have been done for breach of the peace - and worse - who aren't banned from Tynecastle. I respectfully suggest you wind your neck back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Der hun are not in the fiscal position to turn away paying customers at the moment, hence no ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Anyone that is found guilty of a crime should be banned from watching the football team they support for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Make him run through manchester town centre on a saturday night wearing his gers top showing off all his banter/bravado,that should just about do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield Dynamo Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Apologies if this is a bit of a dodgy subject - but I want to know why this guy hasn't been banned from Rangers for life straight away as they know his details. Why aren't the SPL and Government/Police all over Rangers... oh wait... Makes my blood boil!! http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Rangers-fan-fined-for-singing.4925433.jp Rangers fan fined for singing sectarian songs on train trip Stuart Burgess Is that not the guy who used to play for Falkik in the early 90's? Published Date: 29 January 2009 A RANGERS fan arrested at Waverley Station for singing sectarian songs on a late-night train from Glasgow said he had "one or two drinks" after a game. Stuart Burgess, 45, a delivery driver from Broomfield Crescent, Edinburgh, was fined ?375 at the city's Sheriff Court yesterday after pleading guilty to committing a breach of the peace on the train between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh Waverley on September 21 last year. Sheriff Frank Crowe was told that Burgess had been shouting, swearing and singing sectarian songs on the journey back. Defence solicitor, Peter O'Neill, said his client was deeply ashamed. "He had one or two drinks in Glasgow with friends and caught the last train back," said Mr O'Neill. "He was sitting with other Rangers fans and some began singing Rangers songs. "They started off 'clean' but then became sectarian. The guard came and told them to be quiet. One of the group became offensive towards the guard and Mr Burgess intervened." Mr O'Neill added that Burgess still went to Rangers games, but never had a drink in Glasgow. ****Why is he allowed to still go?! **** of the earth U]Stuart Burgess[/u] Is that not the guy who used to play for Falkik in the early 90's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Man sings song on train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Numbers Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 U]Stuart Burgess[/u]Is that not the guy who used to play for Falkik in the early 90's? If it is, he was a legend for East Fife prior to his Falkirk days! Remember watching him during my schooldays late 80s, an immense centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Back in December when Hibs played Celtic at Fester Road I was getting the train from Inverkeithing to Edinburgh with my 2 boys 5 and 9, there were a few Celtic fans on the train and a fair few kids. The songs they were singing were vile when asked by a guy to stop as there children on the train they got louder and more vile I got off at Haymarket but hope Lothian and Borders finest were at Waverley to meet them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamTarts1874 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Haha he lives in the same street as me, Broomfield Cres, don't know him personally though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Back in December when Hibs played Celtic at Fester Road I was getting the train from Inverkeithing to Edinburgh with my 2 boys 5 and 9, there were a few Celtic fans on the train and a fair few kids. The songs they were singing were vile when asked by a guy to stop as there children on the train they got louder and more vile I got off at Haymarket but hope Lothian and Borders finest were at Waverley to meet them These people are the dregs of society,they are entitled to their beliefs but should not get away with ramming their bile down other peoples throats.Just as sickening are the posters on here who seem to think this sort of behaviour is acceptable because it did not happen inside a football stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 These people are the dregs of society,they are entitled to their beliefs but should not get away with ramming their bile down other peoples throats.Just as sickening are the posters on here who seem to think this sort of behaviour is acceptable because it did not happen inside a football stadium. The fact he comes from Corstorphine and supports Rangers is enough to be banned from Edinburgh:laugh: Im from down that way but cant place him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside1874 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Apologies if this is a bit of a dodgy subject - but I want to know why this guy hasn't been banned from Rangers for life straight away as they know his details. Why aren't the SPL and Government/Police all over Rangers... oh wait... Makes my blood boil!! http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Rangers-fan-fined-for-singing.4925433.jp Rangers fan fined for singing sectarian songs on train trip Published Date: 29 January 2009 A RANGERS fan arrested at Waverley Station for singing sectarian songs on a late-night train from Glasgow said he had "one or two drinks" after a game. Stuart Burgess, 45, a delivery driver from Broomfield Crescent, Edinburgh, was fined ?375 at the city's Sheriff Court yesterday after pleading guilty to committing a breach of the peace on the train between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh Waverley on September 21 last year. Sheriff Frank Crowe was told that Burgess had been shouting, swearing and singing sectarian songs on the journey back. Defence solicitor, Peter O'Neill, said his client was deeply ashamed. "He had one or two drinks in Glasgow with friends and caught the last train back," said Mr O'Neill. "He was sitting with other Rangers fans and some began singing Rangers songs. "They started off 'clean' but then became sectarian. The guard came and told them to be quiet. One of the group became offensive towards the guard and Mr Burgess intervened." Mr O'Neill added that Burgess still went to Rangers games, but never had a drink in Glasgow. ****Why is he allowed to still go?! **** of the earth One of the group became offensive towards the guard and Mr Burgess intervened." I just don't get this bit. I was in Rhodes years ago and spotted the Jambo family all wearing Hearts tops, mum, dad, son and daughter(five or under). Looked great and I pointed them out to the crowd I was with, feeling a bit proud as I was the only Jambo in the group. What happened at this moment......the daughter knocked her glass of juice over the table and the father lost it big time. I don't personally know the family, but I strangely felt embarrassed. IMO what went on far outweighs singing sectarian songs on a train. Should the father be banned from Tynecastle?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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