Sexton Hardcastle Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Got a txt from a mate saying hes possibly left Sunderland. Anyone else heard similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Yep, just a few minutes ago. My mate's in Toronto though so not sure where he heard that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Keane-has-NOT-walked.4696388.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 Seems to be all over the Sunderland forums as well. Maybe due to a fall out with the board. The club havent said anything yet. Intresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 nothing about it on setanta sports news i can see sunderland going down without him in charge if correct though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Nothing on BBC or Skysports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Keane-has-NOT-walked.4696388.jp Interesting that the sunderlandecho clearly uses the same website template as the scotsman/een. similarities are uncanny. e.g. http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/football/Laszlo-considers-Hearts-return-for.4694717.jp Well I thought it was interesting anyway. Thinking abuot it it's not really all that interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Wouldnt surprise me, way out his depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Interesting that the sunderlandecho clearly uses the same website template as the scotsman/een. similarities are uncanny. e.g. http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/football/Laszlo-considers-Hearts-return-for.4694717.jp Well I thought it was interesting anyway. Thinking abuot it it's not really all that interesting. Loads of papers do, JR. I think one company runs most press websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Wouldnt surprise me, way out his depth. As clearly proven by the fact that he inherited a team 24th in the Championship, which had just posted the two worst totals in EPL history, and by the end of last season, had improved them 29 league places in less than two years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 Apparntly it was on the Setanta Breaking news banner but they then chopped it. Seems someones had a mare somwhere along the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 As clearly proven by the fact that he inherited a team 24th in the Championship, which had just posted the two worst totals in EPL history, and by the end of last season, had improved them 29 league places in less than two years... He's wasted millions and they're still pash. FACT. Sunderland in this stage of there pregression could really do with an experienced manager who knows how to spend money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 How many other promoted clubs stayed up last season? Answer: none. Keane had to spend loads to replace the God-awful team he inherited; and when you come up, quality players won't join you! Sunderland is a gradual, long-term project which will take considerable time. They'll be fine if they stick with him - and would be mental not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Anyone who signs Diouf needs their head looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 How many other promoted clubs stayed up last season? Answer: none. Keane had to spend loads to replace the God-awful team he inherited; and when you come up, quality players won't join you! Sunderland is a gradual, long-term project which will take considerable time. They'll be fine if they stick with him - and would be mental not to. Could someone list his signings? Haven't a load joined (for silly money) then sold again or farmed out on loan? He has a record that must read like VR's. He's pash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 He's us laughing with the ?9 Million they gave us for Gordon I've have taken 5 million personally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Thinking abuot it it's not really all that interesting. You got it right at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I suppose there's two ways of looking at this and he certainly divides opinion in the job he has done at Sunderland. He did fantastically well when he first took over, as alluded to above. However, he has wasted an awful lot of money - ?5m on Chopra who has been shipped back to Cardiff is the one that stands out for me. When you take everything into account though, Sunderland are in a much better position than when he took over and far more experienced managers have wasted a lot more than Keane, who is still learning his trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Shaun, The parent company of Sunderland Echo is Northeast Press Ltd which is in the Scotsman Publications Ltd stable of companies. http://members.scotsman.com/terms-companies.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I suppose there's two ways of looking at this and he certainly divides opinion in the job he has done at Sunderland. He did fantastically well when he first took over, as alluded to above. However, he has wasted an awful lot of money - ?5m on Chopra who has been shipped back to Cardiff is the one that stands out for me. When you take everything into account though, Sunderland are in a much better position than when he took over and far more experienced managers have wasted a lot more than Keane, who is still learning his trade. I wouldnt say the success is really down to him tho... imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Anyone who signs Diouf needs their head looked. I have a wee soft spot for Diouf, might be down to his actions at Sellick Park. Sunderland miss Jones big time, when he's back and firing they'll start to rise up the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I wouldnt say the success is really down to him tho... imo. Who is it down to then? If you put it down to Quinn and the consortium, all they have done is provide money and appoint Keane (on the playing side of things). It seems to me a bit futile to then argue Keane has done nothing and squandered money if you compare their league position when he took over to where they are now. For all his pros and cons, you cannot seriously argue Keane hasn't helped improve Sunderland under his tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonjambo Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Shaun, The parent company of Sunderland Echo is Northeast Press Ltd which is in the Scotsman Publications Ltd stable of companies. http://members.scotsman.com/terms-companies.cfm They are all part of Johnston Press which has hundreds of titles round the country GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Who is it down to then? If you put it down to Quinn and the consortium, all they have done is provide money and appoint Keane (on the playing side of things). It seems to me a bit futile to then argue Keane has done nothing and squandered money if you compare their league position when he took over to where they are now. For all his pros and cons, you cannot seriously argue Keane hasn't helped improve Sunderland under his tenure. Ah we're both right... why? I'll explain. Its all about value. He's spent enough to put them easy in the top 7/8, but got a team that will survive but only just. Money has helped Sunderland improve, kean has hit targets of survival etc but thats it. They have survived, but should have done a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Ah we're both right... why? I'll explain. Its all about value. He's spent enough to put them easy in the top 7/8, but got a team that will survive but only just. Money has helped Sunderland improve, kean has hit targets of survival etc but thats it. They have survived, but should have done a lot better. Think if you actually were to take Craig Gordon and Michael Chopra out of the equation Keane hasn't really spent an awful lot of money in real terms, you could argue over whether or not ?2.5 million is too much for El Hadj Diouf, but in comparable terms better wingers would cost more. First season up for any club it is then about survival, which he achieved, second season you try to survive again but move up the table slightly, once you have found your feet you can think about progression. I actually think Keane has done a not bad job at Sunderland, but only Sunderland supporters could give a definite answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 A couple of months ago someone posted that Sunderland were the type of well-run club we should be copying. I wouldn't make an outright statement that Keans is a cr*p manager as this is his first gig but I'd like to think that if any manager was given the near ?100million that Keano's spent, they'd make as good a job, if not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Got a txt from a mate saying hes possibly left Sunderland. I don't care about Sunderland, but I hope he's out of football and never returns. He is a negative influence on the game, and his "I've always wanted to play for ra sellik" pesh was stomach churning. Only good thing is that he took ra sellik fhans for a pretty penny. Kheano - GTF from British football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I don't care about Sunderland, but I hope he's out of football and never returns. He is a negative influence on the game, and his "I've always wanted to play for ra sellik" pesh was stomach churning. Only good thing is that he took ra sellik fhans for a pretty penny. Kheano - GTF from British football. Someone's already worried about him becoming Celtic boss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 A couple of months ago someone posted that Sunderland were the type of well-run club we should be copying. I wouldn't make an outright statement that Keans is a cr*p manager as this is his first gig but I'd like to think that if any manager was given the near ?100million that Keano's spent, they'd make as good a job, if not better. I believe Roy Keane's total spending since arriving at Sunderland is around ?35-?40 million, which is peanuts in terms of some teams at the top end of the EPL, so not sure where this figure of ?100 million comes from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Someone's already worried about him becoming Celtic boss... I don't care who ra sellik have as their manager. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I don't care who ra sellik have as their manager. Fact. This must be why you wish ill on the Leaping Leprechaun, purely because he managed them for five years. And brought, I'm sure, much despair to your footballing life too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynie b Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I don't care about Sunderland, but I hope he's out of football and never returns. He is a negative influence on the game, and his "I've always wanted to play for ra sellik" pesh was stomach churning. Only good thing is that he took ra sellik fhans for a pretty penny. Kheano - GTF from British football. Good god, You're unstoppable...Your wee Prodigy (or is it Proddy) will be along shortly to agree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 65 million has been spent by Keane http://www.soccerbase.com/transfers_by_team.sd?teamid=2493 can get a season by season breakdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Your wee Prodigy (or is it Proddy) will be along shortly to agree!! Which one? I have so many, you'll have to narrow it down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Someone's already worried about him becoming Celtic boss... wouldn't be worried at all he is waiting for the Utd job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 wouldn't be worried at all he is waiting for the Utd job But he'll have to do something pretty big to get it - and Mourinho would be my bet for that position when Fergie finally retires anyway. I don't think WGS will stay at Celtic beyond the end of the season; and if not, would anticipate it being Moyes or Keane who replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynie b Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Which one? I have so many, you'll have to narrow it down a bit. I can't say, Burberryboy hasn't posted yet!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 But he'll have to do something pretty big to get it - and Mourinho would be my bet for that position when Fergie finally retires anyway. I don't think WGS will stay at Celtic beyond the end of the season; and if not, would anticipate it being Moyes or Keane who replace him. seems to me like it's Mourinho that wants to go there and not Man Utd. Ferguson showed he trusted Keane by standing by him as captain so he will be his choice to be manager imo, and what he says usually goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 seems to me like it's Mourinho that wants to go there and not Man Utd. Ferguson showed he trusted Keane by standing by him as captain so he will be his choice to be manager imo, and what he says usually goes. Ferguson and Mourinho get on really well: the only other manager Purple Cheeks respects as much is Marcello Lippi. And Man Utd will be looking at the world's best managers when it's time to make a change: nothing less will do for them. Meaning Keane, and other United old boys like Hughes, Ince or Strachan, will have no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Ferguson and Mourinho get on really well: the only other manager Purple Cheeks respects as much is Marcello Lippi. And Man Utd will be looking at the world's best managers when it's time to make a change: nothing less will do for them. Meaning Keane, and other United old boys like Hughes, Ince or Strachan, will have no chance. I'm been watching the Benitez contract scenario with interest as I've had a feeling for a couple of years now that it would be Mourinho who eventually replaces him. Not sure why, just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I'm been watching the Benitez contract scenario with interest as I've had a feeling for a couple of years now that it would be Mourinho who eventually replaces him. Not sure why, just a hunch. Not if Liverpool's finances are in doubt, he won't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I'm been watching the Benitez contract scenario with interest as I've had a feeling for a couple of years now that it would be Mourinho who eventually replaces him. Not sure why, just a hunch. probably cos he's said that he wants to manage in England again. Liverpool are one of the only clubs in England who could afford him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Interesting that the sunderlandecho clearly uses the same website template as the scotsman/een. similarities are uncanny. e.g. http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/football/Laszlo-considers-Hearts-return-for.4694717.jp Well I thought it was interesting anyway. Thinking abuot it it's not really all that interesting. Its a sad day when you start arguing with yourself JR - even by your standards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Think if you actually were to take Craig Gordon and Michael Chopra out of the equation Keane hasn't really spent an awful lot of money in real terms, you could argue over whether or not ?2.5 million is too much for El Hadj Diouf, but in comparable terms better wingers would cost more. First season up for any club it is then about survival, which he achieved, second season you try to survive again but move up the table slightly, once you have found your feet you can think about progression. I actually think Keane has done a not bad job at Sunderland, but only Sunderland supporters could give a definite answer. 70 million on 40 players if this is to believed. http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0917/keaneroy.html Thats a lot of cash on pash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertonian_II Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Maybe if CG had been in goals for Soonderland over the last few games, this thread might not have got off the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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