ramrod Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 if he marches straight back into the team after his hapless performances in his last 4 games, it can only mean one of two things,imo...................... vlad is still picking the team or csaba knows very little about defending surely not after our 1st clean sheet in ages......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Option 1:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I think he will be shoe horned back into the team but not because of VR as I doubt he's even interested:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 I think he will be shoe horned back into the team but not because of VR as I doubt he's even interested:rolleyes: option 2 it is then......................... that is worrying....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I think he'll play due to the fact that Miko is injured and Stewart is suspended. Whether he should or not is a different question. However, I would hope that Hearts fans aren't going to make him public enemy No1. He's not exactly Gordan Petric! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I think he'll play due to the fact that Miko is injured and Stewart is suspended. Whether he should or not is a different question. However, I would hope that Hearts fans aren't going to make him public enemy No1. He's not exactly Gordan Petric! True. He isn't Gordan Petric. I don't remember Petric selling goals to the opposition in EVERY game he played, like Zaliukas does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 True. He isn't Gordan Petric. I don't remember Petric selling goals to the opposition in EVERY game he played, like Zaliukas does. I think that's a bit of an exaggeration! And I don't think Zaliukas has made a "t*t" gesture to any Hearts fans, although it was hilarious at the time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 He shouldn`t walk back in, end of. Managers will normally give a player a couple of games to get over mistakes to see if they can recover form but Zaliukas definitely merits a rest just now. He`s a mixed bag. He can be solid and work away well for a good spell in games then he goes and makes silly judgements or mistakes and his passing out of defence is erratic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Or it could mean we have loads of injuries and a major suspension in midfield. Csaba also blatently rates Karipidis in midfield and the Greek has performed well there. This could leave a vacant space in defence and he may be left with little choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 He shouldn`t walk back in, end of. Managers will normally give a player a couple of games to get over mistakes to see if they can recover form but Zaliukas definitely merits a rest just now. He`s a mixed bag. He can be solid and work away well for a good spell in games then he goes and makes silly judgements or mistakes and his passing out of defence is erratic too. The thing is though, that a centre back who concentrates and plays well for 95% of the game, but sells a goal in the 5% that he doesn't, is absolutely no use. Zaliukas is very much in the Titus Bramble mould of defender, in that at times he can look very good only to make a calamatious error. Many different coaches have tried to improve Bramble's concentration without success, there has to be some doubt if any improvement can be achieved with Zaliukas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The xx Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I have a feeling that since all of our right sided midfielders are injured that Zaliukas will come back in at centre half and Jonsson will go to the right of midfield. Either that or Driver will play on the right with Obua on the left. Surely he's not going to start Neilson on the right of midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bigtime Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Or it could mean we have loads of injuries and a major suspension in midfield.Csaba also blatently rates Karipidis in midfield and the Greek has performed well there. This could leave a vacant space in defence and he may be left with little choice. Csaba rates both Eggert and Karapidis, he made this clear at a shareholders dinner. With Robbie back I feel he will be tempted to put Karapidis back in midfield (injury allowing) and keep Eggert in central defense/ This still leaves options in the middle with Bruno, Driver, Kingston (again fitness allowing) and Abua coming back. I bet he reinstates Zaliukas and uses Ksanavecious though !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 The thing is though, that a centre back who concentrates and plays well for 95% of the game, but sells a goal in the 5% that he doesn't, is absolutely no use. Zaliukas is very much in the Titus Bramble mould of defender, in that at times he can look very good only to make a calamatious error. Many different coaches have tried to improve Bramble's concentration without success, there has to be some doubt if any improvement can be achieved with Zaliukas. Totally agree. If he continues to make costly errors then he must be gotten rid of. But will that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del1812 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Mikoliunas' injury gives an excuse to put Zaliukas back in. With Miko, Larry and Chesney out injured, Eggert will probably be taken out of defence and into right midfield as he is the only first team player left with experience of playing there. That opens up a gap back at centre half... enter the Lithuanian chocolate teapot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I'd like to see Zaliukas get a few games in the reserves and let us keep with the same players who dug out a win at the weekend. Personally be quite content with Robbie at right back and The Egg in beside Berra and young Templeton getting a go wide right or even behind the striker. A bit of stability and consistency with the team after a win would be nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 If we had another equally experienced centre half at the club that we could use without weakening other areas then I'd say drop Zaluikas and use him. As it is our centre half alternatives seem to be Karapidis or Jonsson. Surely everyone remembers how lightweight and easily bullied Karapidis is at centre half in this league ? Jonnson is already a midfielder converted to full back for convenience and if we convert him any more he'll be wearing high heels and answering to the name Doris. I'd rather Zaluikas didnt play. I'd rather we had someone else provenly better than him to step in there. The fact is that we dont and no matter how much you shake the rattles, he WILL be playing at centre half tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 If I'm driving to the game tomorrow and hear on the radio that Zaliuseless is in the team, I may just turn the car back and go home again:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 if he marches straight back into the team after his hapless performances in his last 4 games, it can only mean one of two things,imo...................... vlad is still picking the team or csaba knows very little about defending surely not after our 1st clean sheet in ages......................... Logic would suggest that Csaba Laszlo saw on Saturday a back 4 that looked remarkably comfortable, and deserves to play together again. However I am not convinced an awful lot of logic is used when selecting our side. I would like to see the same back 4, with Kingston replacing Stewart in the central midfield position, and tomorrow night could be a good chance to bring Templeton into the side, as he seems to be on a bit of a high at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Think most of the young lads playing regularly for the reserves should fancy their chances of at least being in the 18 man squad tomorrow night considering the suspensions and injuries we currently have. Templeton and Husband (if selected) should be due for a run out, even if it is something along the lines of 5/10 minutes at the end. Perfect time and circumstances for them to try and stake a place in the 1st team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 you all crack on about Zal but I think he's a very good CB who has had a run of dodgy games. He was our best player against Celtic till he got sent off. He cleared everything out the danger area that came his way. I would much rather have seen him playing CB on Saturday than Jonsson, who looked shakey when using his left peg in his own box. Don't get me wrong, Jonsson had a great match and won the points for us, but Zal is still a far better CB. And, much better than the posters here give him credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 you all crack on about Zal but I think he's a very good CB who has had a run of dodgy games. He was our best player against Celtic till he got sent off. He cleared everything out the danger area that came his way. I would much rather have seen him playing CB on Saturday than Jonsson, who looked shakey when using his left peg in his own box. Don't get me wrong, Jonsson had a great match and won the points for us, but Zal is still a far better CB. And, much better than the posters here give him credit for. seriously:eek: I lost count of the numbre of goals he cost us last year. No change again this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 you all crack on about Zal but I think he's a very good CB who has had a run of dodgy games. He was our best player against Celtic till he got sent off. He cleared everything out the danger area that came his way. I would much rather have seen him playing CB on Saturday than Jonsson, who looked shakey when using his left peg in his own box. Don't get me wrong, Jonsson had a great match and won the points for us, but Zal is still a far better CB. And, much better than the posters here give him credit for. 70 odd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I think that's a bit of an exaggeration! And I don't think Zaliukas has made a "t*t" gesture to any Hearts fans, although it was hilarious at the time!! That's because Zaliukas IS the tit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighalders Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 if he marches straight back into the team after his hapless performances in his last 4 games, it can only mean one of two things,imo...................... vlad is still picking the team or csaba knows very little about defending surely not after our 1st clean sheet in ages......................... Correct! Twice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Its simple If a meritocracy exists at Hearts he will not play. Not only has his form been particularly shady last 4 games, the defence that has replaced him in both games hasnt conceded a goal If he doesnt play this will be a significant message that Csaba has the final say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I reckon the crowd would get a boost if Templeton was to start. Can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 you all crack on about Zal but I think he's a very good CB who has had a run of dodgy games. He was our best player against Celtic till he got sent off. He cleared everything out the danger area that came his way. I would much rather have seen him playing CB on Saturday than Jonsson, who looked shakey when using his left peg in his own box. Don't get me wrong, Jonsson had a great match and won the points for us, but Zal is still a far better CB. And, much better than the posters here give him credit for. I agree with you mate. Big Zal is the best CB we have and yes he has made a couple of mistakes. He is not the only one tho. I also agree with you re the celtic game where he was our best player. until being very harshly sent off. Typical wit***** on JKB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 He was our best player against Celtic till he got sent off. Next you'll be telling me he played well against Aberdeen apart from giving away a goal that cost us 2 points. And he did well at Easter Road appart from the dodgy passback to put a hobo clean through on goal in the last minute. and he did well against Motherwell, other than diving in and getting skint resulting in us losing a goal etc etc etc The boy is a bombscare. He sells goals, and his blunders leave teammates exposed whenever he plays. Don't see much point in pretending otherwise just because we know he'll be shoehorned back in regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Stevens Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 He'll be shoehorned into a midfield holding role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 you all crack on about Zal but I think he's a very good CB who has had a run of dodgy games. He was our best player against Celtic till he got sent off. He cleared everything out the danger area that came his way. I would much rather have seen him playing CB on Saturday than Jonsson, who looked shakey when using his left peg in his own box. Don't get me wrong, Jonsson had a great match and won the points for us, but Zal is still a far better CB. And, much better than the posters here give him credit for. I'll have some of what your on please!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Next you'll be telling me he played well against Aberdeen apart from giving away a goal that cost us 2 points. And he did well at Easter Road appart from the dodgy passback to put a hobo clean through on goal in the last minute. and he did well against Motherwell, other than diving in and getting skint resulting in us losing a goal etc etc etc The boy is a bombscare. He sells goals, and his blunders leave teammates exposed whenever he plays. Don't see much point in pretending otherwise just because we know he'll be shoehorned back in regardless. I give you the passback. The other two are debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Zali's mistakes and lapses in concentration are numerous and regular I'm afraid. No point in hiding it, he is pretty hopeless. He'll be back playing tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 For the record, when was the last time we had 11 players or even the whole squad that didnt include any liths? Was it actually all that long ago? Only Kello/Zal possibly tonite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 For the record, when was the last time we had 11 players or even the whole squad that didnt include any liths? Was it actually all that long ago? Only Kello/Zal possibly tonite. Kello is not a lith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Sorry. SBE. So if Zal doesnt get on the park/squad, how long since the team didnt included any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H J Simpson Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Next you'll be telling me he played well against Aberdeen apart from giving away a goal that cost us 2 points. And he did well at Easter Road appart from the dodgy passback to put a hobo clean through on goal in the last minute. and he did well against Motherwell, other than diving in and getting skint resulting in us losing a goal etc etc etc The boy is a bombscare. He sells goals, and his blunders leave teammates exposed whenever he plays. Don't see much point in pretending otherwise just because we know he'll be shoehorned back in regardless. For me the cockup against Hibs, if you watch the footage, is down to Berra not talking. If you watch the footage Zal is pointing to the keeper telling Berra to put it back to him so it's obvious where Zal is going to put it when Berra passes him the ball instead. Berra can see behind Zal that Riordan is there so why's he either not launching the ball up the park himself or telling Zal not to put it back to the keeper?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokuzo_The_Jambo Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 He shouldn`t walk back in, end of. Managers will normally give a player a couple of games to get over mistakes to see if they can recover form but Zaliukas definitely merits a rest just now. He`s a mixed bag. He can be solid and work away well for a good spell in games then he goes and makes silly judgements or mistakes and his passing out of defence is erratic too. Surely this is the same for Stewart then, he is a hot head, and recently has been very very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-e-a-r-t-s Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 For the record, when was the last time we had 11 players or even the whole squad that didnt include any liths? Was it actually all that long ago? Only Kello/Zal possibly tonite. it's incredible how some hearts 'supporters' don't know the nationalities of their players. to describe Kello as a Lith is just lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 it's incredible how some hearts 'supporters' don't know the nationalities of their players. to describe Kello as a Lith is just lol. Alrite simmer down idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 it's incredible how some hearts 'supporters' don't know the nationalities of their players. to describe Kello as a Lith is just lol. Its also amazing how many journalists think Laszlo is Hungarian. Csaba L?szl? (born 13 February 1964 in Odorheiu Secuiesc, Harghita County, Transylvania, Romania) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Its also amazing how many journalists think Laszlo is Hungarian. Csaba L?szl? (born 13 February 1964 in Odorheiu Secuiesc, Harghita County, Transylvania, Romania) But he is ethnically Hungarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kely Being born somewhere doesn't necessarily mean you are from that country though. E.g. Terry Butcher was born in Singapore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I give you the passback. The other two are debatable. You think the Aberdeen one is debatable? Are you suggesting he didn't misjudge a long ball, completely fail to cut it out, thereby allowing a punt up the park to put the Aberdeen forward clean through on our keeper to score their goal? i don't see what there is to debate. He made a misjudgement, attacked a ball he was never getting to, which allowed the forward in behind him. From a simple punt up the park. His own body language (slumped over hands on knees) after the goal shows that he knew it was a mistake. Even Csaba said it was a mistake by Zaliukas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 You think the Aberdeen one is debatable? Are you suggesting he didn't misjudge a long ball, completely fail to cut it out, thereby allowing a punt up the park to put the Aberdeen forward clean through on our keeper to score their goal? i don't see what there is to debate. He made a misjudgement, attacked a ball he was never getting to, which allowed the forward in behind him. From a simple punt up the park. His own body language (slumped over hands on knees) after the goal shows that he knew it was a mistake. Even Csaba said it was a mistake by Zaliukas. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 But he is ethnically Hungarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kely Being born somewhere doesn't necessarily mean you are from that country though. E.g. Terry Butcher was born in Singapore. In my book being born in Romania = Romanian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inside right Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 The thing is though, that a centre back who concentrates and plays well for 95% of the game, but sells a goal in the 5% that he doesn't, is absolutely no use. Zaliukas is very much in the Titus Bramble mould of defender, in that at times he can look very good only to make a calamatious error. Many different coaches have tried to improve Bramble's concentration without success, there has to be some doubt if any improvement can be achieved with Zaliukas. You mean like Alan Hansen and Craig Levein both of them had a habit of losing concentration but still wouldn't mind having either of them at the moment. Agree Zaliukas is not very good and just hope Aberdeen don't manage to resign Windass because he really showed how bad Zaliukas is in the preseason friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 You think the Aberdeen one is debatable? Are you suggesting he didn't misjudge a long ball, completely fail to cut it out, thereby allowing a punt up the park to put the Aberdeen forward clean through on our keeper to score their goal? i don't see what there is to debate. He made a misjudgement, attacked a ball he was never getting to, which allowed the forward in behind him. From a simple punt up the park. His own body language (slumped over hands on knees) after the goal shows that he knew it was a mistake. Even Csaba said it was a mistake by Zaliukas. It was a honking one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 He'll be shoehorned into a midfield holding role. stevens my man I have been saying this since yesterday Get the bad feeling he will end up in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-e-a-r-t-s Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Sorry. SBE. So if Zal doesnt get on the park/squad, how long since the team didnt included any? Bit of advice. Stop just posting to get your 'post count' up and start posting stuff that is factually correct, makes sense and doesn't make you look like a plonker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 seriously:eek: I lost count of the numbre of goals he cost us last year. No change again this year Why don't you try hard and tell us all the goals he has directly cost us last year and this? I'll give you the goal against Aberdreich a couple of weeks ago as a starter for ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Its also amazing how many journalists think Laszlo is Hungarian. Csaba L?szl? (born 13 February 1964 in Odorheiu Secuiesc, Harghita County, Transylvania, Romania) Doesnt that just make him a vampire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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