i8hibsh Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Played 12 Scored 13 Striker scoring in just 1 game - and from a midfield position I really hope they are. Before anyone starts - I am not being too critical The amount of balls that get fired into the box (striker's hunting ground) is unbelievable!! They are getting fed but they are just not showing the hunger! None of them have a strikers mind or instinct They can't read each other and constantly drift out of position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesy1874 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 this might improve if we actually had 2 strikers playing upfront but then again maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 this might improve if we actually had 2 strikers playing upfront but then again maybe not when we have tried it in games it is a shambles. They can't read one another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Its certainly not good enought. Its also worth pointing out though that more than not the supply line is **** poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Half the SPL has failed to score any more goals than Hearts so are they embarrassed too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Weathers Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 It's a frightening statistic. Surely the current tactics must take some of the blame? Edit: When was the last time Hearts had a great front pairing that played week in, week out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Half the SPL has failed to score any more goals than Hearts so are they embarrassed too? Yes but my post is about STRIKERS Every team has at least a striker scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Do you think the Hearts 'strikers' are ashamed? no just pretty crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Yes but my post is about STRIKERS Every team has at least a striker scoring That's true but it's goals that win games and if they aren't scoring any more goals than us overall then are they any better from an attacking point of view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 when we have tried it in games it is a shambles. They can't read one another when have we tried it? genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Whittaker's Tache Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 What strikers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Do you think the Hearts 'strikers' are ashamed? no just pretty crap Excatly they are paid to score goals and they don't It is like paying a plumber to fix your sink and he can't do it A carpenter that can't make a table A butcher who gets squeemish at cutting meat A French interpreter who can't speak French An airline pilot that can't fly a plane A driving instructor who can't drive and so on and so forth - i'm sure you get my drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 when have we tried it? genuine question. there have been times when we have made subs and had Mole and Nade on. We have had Makela and Mole on (start of season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Whittaker's Tache Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I'd be interested to see out of those goals scored how many were actually scored by a striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 They can't read each other and constantly drift out of position If we actually stuck with two strikers for half a dozen games (Glen+Nade), this would give them time to settle. You cant expect a strike force to gel unless you give them a fair run in the team - under the regime this wont ever happen. I think we should try and get Kevin McKenna on loan. He puts the current hearts forwards to utter shame - a defender who knew where the bloody net was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 It's a frightening statistic. Surely the current tactics must take some of the blame? Edit: When was the last time Hearts had a great front pairing that played week in, week out? Bednar and Jankauskas? Can't think of another regular pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisc0 K1d Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 If Nade sticks in and puts in the sort of work he did against St Mirren he can hold his head up high and has nothing to be ashamed about. We could do with getting more goals from our forwards but we are playing a formation where you would expect a lot of the goals to come from elsewhere, don't really care who scores as long a we win and the players put a shift in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Titor Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Strikers??? Didn't know we had any at the club. Are they injured or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 there have been times when we have made subs and had Mole and Nade on. We have had Makela and Mole on (start of season) Mole and Makela for about 15 minutes against Motherwell, in which time we scored. Mole and Nade I remember being on at the same time for the end of the Inverness game in which time we completely retreated but it wasn't a disaster. We haven't started a single game with two strikers. if we do that for a couple of games and it is still mince, then we can criticise the forwards. Our team is just not set-up to allow anyone other than a world beater, which we don't have, shine as a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Weathers Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Bednar and Jankauskas? Can't think of another regular pairing. I'm not sure how many games they actually played together. Janny always seemed to be crocked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I hope they're not ashamed. Nade and Mole are not being played as penalty box strikers. As GA said above, they get very poor service, and it's inevitably service that pushes them from a central position to wide. More often than not, we're actually playing with no striker, which is a very odd position for a football club to find itself in, but that's a puzzle that only the management can solve. Nade would have had every reason to be ashamed last season, but not at the moment. Mole doesn't have the requisite quality in my view, but again he's making the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Played 12Scored 13 Striker scoring in just 1 game - and from a midfield position I really hope they are. Before anyone starts - I am not being too critical The amount of balls that get fired into the box (striker's hunting ground) is unbelievable!! They are getting fed but they are just not showing the hunger! None of them have a strikers mind or instinct They can't read each other and constantly drift out of position i don't think they will be, or should be, ashamed. disappointed... yes, determined to redress the situation... yes, willing to do what ever it takes to become a better player... i hope so. what is clear is that, should this go on much longer, we wont keep gettin away with it for long. scoring once in a game is not going to get you many points in the long run. score 2 or more per game and you wont lose very many, therefore perhaps as a team hearts are not far away from putting a good run together, but the strikers do need to start contributing pretty darn fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Bednar and Jankauskas? Can't think of another regular pairing. I remember at some stage in the last two seasons my dream pairing was an on-form, motivated, fit Jankauskas with a "mentally attuned" Pinilla. They would have ripped SPL defences to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 IIRC.... Nade, who I thought played very well on Saturday, had only 1 shot on goal the entire time he was on the park - and that was in the first 30 seconds. We desperately need a striker who has an eye for goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 IIRC.... Nade, who I thought played very well on Saturday, had only 1 shot on goal the entire time he was on the park - and that was in the first 30 seconds. We desperately need a striker who has an eye for goal. We do but these guys don't come cheap DH unless you can unearth a bargain somewhere but everybodies always looking at/for goalscorers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 We do but these guys don't come cheap DH unless you can unearth a bargain somewhere but everybodies always looking at/for goalscorers..... The old scouting network. I wonder what we deploy with this these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 We do but these guys don't come cheap DH unless you can unearth a bargain somewhere but everybodies always looking at/for goalscorers..... how is it motherwell, hibs, dundee utd, aberdeen etc etc strikers can score goals then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 We do but these guys don't come cheap DH unless you can unearth a bargain somewhere but everybodies always looking at/for goalscorers..... A half decent scouting system would have unearthed a striker that could at least have a few shots on goal during a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Hopefully they made better progress than myself. Past season 01/02, could not make head nor tail of these games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'M IBRAHIM TALL Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I might be wrong but brandidng them an embarresment really wont make them inprove. Not saying we pamper them but a bit gentle encouragement might work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 It's a frightening statistic. Surely the current tactics must take some of the blame? Edit: When was the last time Hearts had a great front pairing that played week in, week out? Bednar and Jankauskas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allystrachan Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 mole was in the paper a couple weeks ago saying he isnt feeling the pressure because its a team game and others are chipping in with goals. i thought that attitude was crap! any striker who isnt scoring should be feeling pressure IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I'm not sure how many games they actually played together. Janny always seemed to be crocked! Velicka and Nade got a few continuous games together last season. Velicka seemed to get most of his goals with a striking partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Bednar and Jankauskas were hardly prolific strikers in terms of goals though. It was their strength and movement that created the opportunity, however, for the likes of Hartley and Skacel to burst from midfield to score. I actually don't care who scores goals for us as long as we score. That said, we do need to improve things up front although Nade, by all accounts, seems to have screwed the nut, which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 I might be wrong but brandidng them an embarresment really wont make them inprove. Not saying we pamper them but a bit gentle encouragement might work. ?10 grand per week is their encouragement mate. I am simply not going to swallow that one They are adults and professionals They should stop their feckin suliking as noone said it was easy. It is their job to get the job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 We actually haven't had a striker that has an eye for goal since Adam and Mcswegen and then before that obviously the wee man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_steve Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I might be wrong but brandidng them an embarresment really wont make them inprove. Not saying we pamper them but a bit gentle encouragement might work. give your keyboard a shake... think some of the keys are stuck ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 ?10 grand per week is their encouragement mate. I am simply not going to swallow that one They are adults and professionals They should stop their feckin suliking as noone said it was easy. It is their job to get the job done You can only pish with the ****** you've got, i8. As long as they're giving their all, we can't ask for any more: the striker situation at the club is the responsibility of the owner. It arguably wasn't quite right even in 05/6, and has got progressively worse since. Mind you, to be fair to Vlad, together with our ludicrous dearth of right backs, it seems to be a Hearts thing too: who've we had who was real class up front since Robbo? Adam? Velicka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 We actually haven't had a striker that has an eye for goal since Adam and Mcswegen and then before that obviously the wee man So Bednar and Janny should be ashamed as well then by that logic? Actually, Andy Kirk had a great goals to game ratio. His failing was his first touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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