piltonjambo Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 A new low (If that's possible) for the so called best fans in the world!!! Two soldiers collecting for the Poppy Appeal jostled and verbally abused by this S**m in Gorgie Road today ... a complete and utter disgrace!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 source? not that i doubt it. disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 But they were oppressed by the British army in 1916 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 A new low (If that's possible) for the so called best fans in the world!!! Two soldiers collecting for the Poppy Appeal jostled and verbally abused by this S**m in Gorgie Road today ... a complete and utter disgrace!!! What were they knobs doing in Gorgie road. Fecking tossers:mad: At least everyone knows they are the biggest s**m in the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercrutch Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I will refrain from commenting on this thread. If I do I will no doubt be banned forever. All I will say is respect to all our soldiers. Male and female. Home and abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 A new low (If that's possible) for the so called best fans in the world!!! Two soldiers collecting for the Poppy Appeal jostled and verbally abused by this S**m in Gorgie Road today ... a complete and utter disgrace!!! Can't see soldiers taking that sort of abuse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I dont really see what threads like this achieve. Condemning there support as a whole for the songs etc OK, however, I somehow seriously doubt that more than a few were involved or condemn it and just like them we have a few people who would do comparable things Yes celtic disgust me and their odious little creatures however I dont think you can use the actions of 1 or 2 for physical assault in this way when we no doubt have similar in our own support. - May I remind you a member (or former) of this forum is serving time for an offence commited within tynecastle, by your thinking hibs fans should be starting threads like this about all hearts fans thus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltonjambo Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 It happened about two yards from me as I was handing out leaflets, a few Hearts fans started to get involved but the plod only arrived after they had moved on ... although they made it clear that's why they were there ... someone must have alerted them ... The two soldiers took a smoke break right after it ... one of them looked really shook up about it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 A new low (If that's possible) for the so called best fans in the world!!! Two soldiers collecting for the Poppy Appeal jostled and verbally abused by this S**m in Gorgie Road today ... a complete and utter disgrace!!! Doesn't even surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 This is a new low, even for them. Will it be reported anywhere in the media, I very much doubt it. It's justa pity that the soldiers weren't allowed to take some names and addresses as I am sure they would just love to repay the banter they were subjected to. Instead, and in their honour, they will show what true military discipline and respect is and refuse to retaliate. Our armed forces, all of them, are truly the last respected part of this country, despite being screwed over continually by the goverment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 sub human, underclass, warts upon the face of society and humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalllaughathobos Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Can't see soldiers taking that sort of abuse... the fact of the matter is the soldiers are not allowed to do anything about it if they do it would result in serious dicipline/discharged from the military. when i was in the army i done a bit of recruting and we where taunted,spat at,in some cases assulted. i know alot of celtic/catholic/irish military personnel it goes to show just how much the weedgie s*** do not have a clue about anything. i also think the soldiers today where just TA(still no excuse)but if they here regular soldiers i would like to think the celtic fans responsible whould have got a swift hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltonjambo Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 I dont really see what threads like this achieve. Condemning there support as a whole for the songs etc OK, however, I somehow seriously doubt that more than a few were involved or condemn it and just like them we have a few people who would do comparable things Yes celtic disgust me and their odious little creatures however I dont think you can use the actions of 1 or 2 for physical assault in this way when we no doubt have similar phannies in our own support. - May I remind you a member (or former) of this forum is serving time for an offence commited within tynecastle, by your thinking hibs fans should be starting threads like this about all hearts fans thus. I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. By your thinking, we can't use the actions of or should now not report what we see from the visiting worlds best fans then? What are you slaverin about? ... why on earth would I wan't you to remind me of something (a Hearts fan who has according to you committed an offence) that bears no relevence to the incident today ... Why would I also worry about what Hibs fans put on a thread about Hearts fans? ... if it's true then so be it it's for discussion on a forum that is here for discussion ... For what it's worth ... I personally believe we would not have one supporter who would abuse a poppy seller ... Anyway don't worry about it ... I've learn't never argue with an idiot. They'll just drag you down to their level, then beat you with their experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. Nice line, PJ. Do you have copyright on that or can anyone use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.By your thinking, we can't use the actions of or should now not report what we see from the visiting worlds best fans then? What are you slaverin about? ... why on earth would I wan't you to remind me of something (a Hearts fan who has according to you committed an offence) that bears no relevence to the incident today ... Why would I also worry about what Hibs fans put on a thread about Hearts fans? ... if it's true then so be it it's for discussion on a forum that is here for discussion ... For what it's worth ... I personally believe we would not have one supporter who would abuse a poppy seller ... Anyway don't worry about it ... I've learn't never argue with an idiot. They'll just drag you down to their level, then beat you with their experience. My point is assault which is what you describe was an offence carried out by individuals - not celtic as a group Every club in scotland will have individuals who carry out criminal offences and thus we have no moral highground here. Yes highlight the fact their fans sing continously abusive offensive songs and the such, however this was an offence by a few people which I am sure even most celtic fans would condemn. Out of interest have you reported this offence to the police yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 personally i am unable to fully express in words just how proud and grateful i am of the british armed forces, and just how much respect i have for the men who have served and sacrificed so much. the people who are driven by certain agendas to abuse the heroic members of the armed forces and anything associated with the armed forces are utter filth. what is more... there can be no excuses for them, anyone who attempts to rationalise or compensate for it is just about as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I dont really see what threads like this achieve. Condemning there support as a whole for the songs etc OK, however, I somehow seriously doubt that more than a few were involved or condemn it and just like them we have a few people who would do comparable things Yes celtic disgust me and their odious little creatures however I dont think you can use the actions of 1 or 2 for physical assault in this way when we no doubt have similar phannies in our own support. - May I remind you a member (or former) of this forum is serving time for an offence commited within tynecastle, by your thinking hibs fans should be starting threads like this about all hearts fans thus. You can't try and condemn this thread by saying we are just as bad because of what we have in our support! By doing do would be to bury our head in the sand and not acknowledge it! Why also remind someone that another person is in jail for an offence?!? Everyone..... Anything bad happens, don't comment on it as it's likely that we are just as bad!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 You can't try and condemn this thread by saying we are just as bad because of what we have in our support! By doing do would be to bury our head in the sand and not acknowledge it! Why also remind someone that another person is in jail for an offence?!? Everyone..... Anything bad happens, don't comment on it as it's likely that we are just as bad!!! No Dont comment on it and try and make it out as football related or that we are somehow superiour because of it. I am quite happy to condemn celtic for issues they have control over or issues encouraged by their clubs culture - i.e the sectarian singing etc, however an assault is done by individuals. The appropiate action is to report it to the police and condemn the individuals involved for their actions - not try and insinuate it is somehow related to football or the club as a whole. My point re the poster would be would you like if Hibs started threads calling all hearts fans peadophiles because of the action of one fan? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I am quite happy to condemn celtic for issues they have control over or issues encouraged by their clubs culture - i.e the sectarian singing etc, however an assault is done by individuals. Are the songs not sung by individuals??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Are the songs not sung by individuals??? encouraged by the culture of their club and something they can do something about would be my opinion. 2 or 3 morons assaulting war veterans is not. Just my opinion of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 No Dont comment on it and try and make it out as football related or that we are somehow superiour because of it. I am quite happy to condemn celtic for issues they have control over or issues encouraged by their clubs culture - i.e the sectarian singing etc, however an assault is done by individuals. The appropiate action is to report it to the police and condemn the individuals involved for their actions - not try and insinuate it is somehow related to football or the club as a whole. My point re the poster would be would you like if Hibs started threads calling all hearts fans peadophiles because of the action of one fan? I think not. It's a fair but somewhat thin comment imo. Where or how is the original poster saying we're superior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 A new low (If that's possible) for the so called best fans in the world!!! Two soldiers collecting for the Poppy Appeal jostled and verbally abused by this S**m in Gorgie Road today ... a complete and utter disgrace!!! Were you the guy who was asking the police what they were going to do about it mate? Dirty filthy barstewards, the lot of them, it wouldn't be that if their precious corner of Glasgow was being invaded by whoever during a war and they were expecting protection from the British forces though, I'd let the fuggers get shot and turn a blind eye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 encouraged by the culture of their club and something they can do something about would be my opinion. 2 or 3 morons assaulting war veterans is not. Just my opinion of course My opinion would be that the culture which, you suggest, encourages songs glorifying terrorist organisations may be the very same culture which encourages anti-British Army sentiment. As you say earlier, every club has it's share of cretins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 the fact of the matter is the soldiers are not allowed to do anything about it if they do it would result in serious dicipline/discharged from the military.when i was in the army i done a bit of recruting and we where taunted,spat at,in some cases assulted. i know alot of celtic/catholic/irish military personnel it goes to show just how much the weedgie s*** do not have a clue about anything. i also think the soldiers today where just TA(still no excuse)but if they here regular soldiers i would like to think the celtic fans responsible whould have got a swift hook. Swift hook? I'd have drawn a gun on the barstewards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo121 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Was I the only one who heard the Celtic support boo the announcement at half time of the Remembrance Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 My point is assault which is what you describe was an offence carried out by individuals - not celtic as a group Every club in scotland will have individuals who carry out criminal offences and thus we have no moral highground here. Yes highlight the fact their fans sing continously abusive offensive songs and the such, however this was an offence by a few people which I am sure even most celtic fans would condemn. Out of interest have you reported this offence to the police yet? Soldiers returning from war were paraded at Ibrox yesterday and given a standing ovation (about the only decent thing I've seen their fans do), but I wonder when these same guys will be unveiled at Parkhead at half time to get the same kind of ovation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 What these ******** barstewards seem to forget that these soldiers are not only out defending us every day but them also I hate everything about that vile club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Soldiers returning from war were paraded at Ibrox yesterday and given a standing ovation (about the only decent thing I've seen their fans do), but I wonder when these same guys will be unveiled at Parkhead at half time to get the same kind of ovation Im going to suggest that maybe rangers had more than not sectarian motives for that PR stunt. Maybe I am just a cynic but I bet rangers were the first to think of that idea in scotland. No doubt lots of mention of fighting for queen and country too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Im going to suggest that maybe rangers had more than not sectarian motives for that PR stunt. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Im going to suggest that maybe rangers had more than not sectarian motives for that PR stunt. Maybe I am just a cynic but I bet rangers were the first to think of that idea in scotland. No doubt lots of mention of fighting for queen and country too if hearts wanted to let war veterans and serving soldiers parade around tynecastle i would be delighted to see it. you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Im going to suggest that maybe rangers had more than not sectarian motives for that PR stunt. Maybe I am just a cynic but I bet rangers were the first to think of that idea in scotland. No doubt lots of mention of fighting for queen and country too You're boring. Men who have fought for Queen and country should not be abused and/or assaulted by mhanky slum dwelling, MOD EDIT Celtic *******s. Incidently, i bumped into a mhank after the game at the Western Corner who had been leathered and he was asking how to get to Tynecastle, as he was lost looking for his bus. Needless to say, i walked on with hope in my heart. He will now sleep in the gutter. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 if hearts wanted to let war veterans and serving soldiers parade around tynecastle i would be delighted to see it. you? I would have no problem with it..... My point is I very much doubt the motives at Ibrox were as innocent as that, there every bit as much as vile as celtic and both clubs are quite happy to pocket the cash made by "not supporting" sectarianism. At the end of the day it is just my opinion but I strongly would suggest the motives of Rangers were questionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 if hearts wanted to let war veterans and serving soldiers parade around tynecastle i would be delighted to see it. you? Sorry Victorian, but I think that the football field should be for playing football, that's all. And that extends to tributes, minutes silence etc - only football related. Non-footballing events/displays of any sort and football shouldn't be mixed. In saying that, I would like to add my gratitude for all that our armed services have done to defend this country and keep the peace around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Was I the only one who heard the Celtic support boo the announcement at half time of the Remembrance Service. No. I remember that as well - unfortunately it was lost amongst my memories of the rest of their bile. Your post has reminded me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltonjambo Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 No Dont comment on it and try and make it out as football related or that we are somehow superiour because of it. I am quite happy to condemn celtic for issues they have control over or issues encouraged by their clubs culture - i.e the sectarian singing etc, however an assault is done by individuals. The appropiate action is to report it to the police and condemn the individuals involved for their actions - not try and insinuate it is somehow related to football or the club as a whole. My point re the poster would be would you like if Hibs started threads calling all hearts fans peadophiles because of the action of one fan? I think not. Dear God where on earth was there an attempt to make us superior in any way shape or form in the post ... you then go on about Hibs starting threads (again) ... unbelieveably you then pick another issue that bears no relevence to the incident today, but that actually did happen (Hibs fans did start threads calling all hearts fans peadophiles when Graham Rix was here) ... your selective memory just missed that I suppose in your almost indecent haste to comment on a thread which you believe achieves nothing ... If that were myself buddy then I would just do the simple thing ... which is of course leave it to people who do wish to partake and comment ... As it is though, thank you, I believe we're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husref musemic Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 My point is assault which is what you describe was an offence carried out by individuals - not celtic as a group Every club in scotland will have individuals who carry out criminal offences and thus we have no moral highground here. Yes highlight the fact their fans sing continously abusive offensive songs and the such, however this was an offence by a few people which I am sure even most celtic fans would condemn. Out of interest have you reported this offence to the police yet? I cant stand appologists (another stunning & unique display by that bunch of bitter, warped pathetic sc m) by the response "well take a look at yourself". They are without doubt the lowest of the low in the minority and the majority. listen to the songs. We have the moral high ground as we were not abusing poppy sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltonjambo Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Were you the guy who was asking the police what they were going to do about it mate? Dirty filthy barstewards, the lot of them, it wouldn't be that if their precious corner of Glasgow was being invaded by whoever during a war and they were expecting protection from the British forces though, I'd let the fuggers get shot and turn a blind eye! Aye that may have been me mate ... along with a few other Hearts fans ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I would have no problem with it..... My point is I very much doubt the motives at Ibrox were as innocent as that, there every bit as much as vile as celtic and both clubs are quite happy to pocket the cash made by "not supporting" sectarianism. At the end of the day it is just my opinion but I strongly would suggest the motives of Rangers were questionable there is a distinction between being happy about something and having no problem with it. as for rangers.... we constantly berate them for the wrongs they do, we should at least have the balance to commend them when they get something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 No Dont comment on it and try and make it out as football related or that we are somehow superiour because of it. I am quite happy to condemn celtic for issues they have control over or issues encouraged by their clubs culture - i.e the sectarian singing etc, however an assault is done by individuals. The appropiate action is to report it to the police and condemn the individuals involved for their actions - not try and insinuate it is somehow related to football or the club as a whole. My point re the poster would be would you like if Hibs started threads calling all hearts fans peadophiles because of the action of one fan? I think not. I'm watching you "funny boy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Sorry Victorian, but I think that the football field should be for playing football, that's all. And that extends to tributes, minutes silence etc - only football related. Non-footballing events/displays of any sort and football shouldn't be mixed. In saying that, I would like to add my gratitude for all that our armed services have done to defend this country and keep the peace around the world. you have a good point there. at the end of the day though, the armed forces are for the benefit of all british residents, regardless of political agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Im going to suggest that maybe rangers had more than not sectarian motives for that PR stunt. Maybe I am just a cynic but I bet rangers were the first to think of that idea in scotland. No doubt lots of mention of fighting for queen and country too To be fair to you I think you might have a point with the whole thing being a PR stunt on Rangers behalf, I wouldn't be surprised knowing that lot! Both as bad as each other imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stew mc Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 It happened about two yards from me as I was handing out leaflets, a few Hearts fans started to get involved but the plod only arrived after they had moved on ... although they made it clear that's why they were there ... someone must have alerted them ...The two soldiers took a smoke break right after it ... one of them looked really shook up about it all He/she sounds like they would come in really handy in a war zone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 On a few occasions here members of the armed forces recently returned from Afghanistan have been presented at NHL games. They have been greeted with loud applause and gratitude, even in some cases by many who are strongly against the war, but respect our troops. In the United States they are very much into thanking their servicemen and women. On a recent road trip to Las Vegas I stopped in a small Nevada town called Caliente. I filled up with gas, and a woman came up to me and said thanks very much for your service. I was totally confused until she pointed out my Veteran licence plates. In British Columbia if you have served in certain armed forces you qualify for these plates. Totally embarrassed I told the lady that my service was many, many years ago, and not in the US army. She told me that didn't matter I had served and she appreciated it and I should be proud. Could be considered a bit over the top, but the thought was welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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