Devries4 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Should we be looking at the young player of the month in the SFL? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/livingston/7661247.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Credit where credit's due for his goal-scoring performances although his sending off sounds just as stupid and petulant as we've seen from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Well done Clum. Maybe if you show the same application and desire when you come back to Hearts, the fans that currently think you're an a-hole will warm to you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Credit where credit's due for his goal-scoring performances although his sending off sounds just as stupid and petulant as we've seen from him. still cannot do it againt SPL clubs though. I'm pleased for him that he is progressing his career but he got one hell of a lot of chances at Hearts and didn't take them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo2k6 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Just noticed at the bottom of that link that Queen of the south humped them 6-1 so it's good to see the lad Sives doing well since he joined them in september Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadianjambo Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Should we be looking at the young player of the month in the SFL? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/livingston/7661247.stm No! He has found his level of play and will never be good enough to play in the SPL. Leave him there and let him enjoy fame and fortune (or at least a decent living) in the first division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPAL Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 So says Canadian Jambo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 still cannot do it againt SPL clubs though. I'm pleased for him that he is progressing his career but he got one hell of a lot of chances at Hearts and didn't take them... In a side that was really really strugging. Not saying Elliot is good enough to come back, probaby not - but as you say its good to see him progressing at last after some barron times. Even if its a lower league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Found his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Found his level. Why are you so bitter about elliott btw? Sister or mum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Why are you so bitter about elliott btw? Sister or mum? I will not converse with you, ever. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I will not converse with you, ever. FACT. MOD EDIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Well done Clum. Maybe if you show the same application and desire when you come back to Hearts, the fans that currently think you're an a-hole will warm to you again. That is one thing you cannot say Elliot never had,he had more desire that most of our fake imports put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboBG Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Should we be looking at the young player of the month in the SFL? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/livingston/7661247.stm[/QUOT Exellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 im sorry but clum has found his level sipmle as that, it was the same with a few hearts players over the years. clum cant hack it at the elite level in scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Should we be looking at the young player of the month in the SFL? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/livingston/7661247.stm if he keeps scoring it's inevitable that he comes back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Speirs Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 That is one thing you cannot say Elliot never had,he had more desire that most of our fake imports put together. He was an easy target, hope he does well Kingston, and the rest what makes them better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 That is one thing you cannot say Elliot never had,he had more desire that most of our fake imports put together. don't think it was desire mate, it was just frustration. That's why he got sent off so much last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Baxter Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Think it will be good for him to gain a bit of confidence by going out on loan and banging in a few goals. He will come back a better player. Some off the stick he gets on here is a bit unfair. He not going to get any better if us fans keep geting on his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossHMFC93 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 im sorry but clum has found his level sipmle as that, it was the same with a few hearts players over the years. clum cant hack it at the elite level in scotland his record for hearts in the 'elite' level is 80 (10) which isnt bad for a young player who's lacked confidence and had abuse from his own fans. He's scored 5 in 4 for livi which shows hes too good for the 1st division as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish1979 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 his record for hearts in the 'elite' level is 80 (10) which isnt bad for a young player who's lacked confidence and had abuse from his own fans. He's scored 5 in 4 for livi which shows hes too good for the 1st division as well To be perfectly honest, I think we all tend to exaggerate the difference in quality between the SPL and the first division. I would imagine that SPL clubs tend to do the same. Which would explain two SPL clubs being humiliated in the same round of the diddy cup by clubs from lower leagues quite recently. It's also a great example of why the SPL is currently flooded with lacklustre journeymen. IMO. A few people said last season that all "Clum" needed was a bit of confidence. The usual orcs shouted them down. There's no way that nearly as many football professionals would be talking the guy up if there wasn't something to his game that could make him a useful player. The level of abuse he took from the fans last season was absolutely disgraceful, and he became the main scapegoat for an entire team that performed pitifully in almost every game they played. Then when his manager tried to defend him - one of Frail's few (imo) laudable actions during his time in charge - he was ridiculed. Fickle crowd, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin67 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 No! He has found his level of play and will never be good enough to play in the SPL. Leave him there and let him enjoy fame and fortune (or at least a decent living) in the first division. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecapjambo Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Although he's been scoring a few goals he still has a long way to go. The fact that he still has the need to talk back to refs after he's been booked and get himself sent off when his team are in trouble (4-1 down at the time) shows that he hasn't learnt much since being there. Nobody has doubted that the he has a bit of talent but he's done this with us before and could cost us if he were to step back up to the spl again. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/scot_div_1/7649151.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Why are you so bitter about elliott btw? Sister or mum? Probably because of how **** he has been when he has played for Hearts.Now **** alone sometimes you can put up with but it is his sheer lack of effort and can't be arsed attitude that gets on my tits.The slumped shoulders the constant moaning when ever on the field.Maybe this move was just best for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadianjambo Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 So says Canadian Jambo. Seems a lot of people agree with me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Cohle Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Probably because of how **** he has been when he has played for Hearts.Now **** alone sometimes you can put up with but it is his sheer lack of effort and can't be arsed attitude that gets on my tits.The slumped shoulders the constant moaning when ever on the field.Maybe this move was just best for everyone. Agree 100%. The talent may or may not be there, but I doubt we'll ever find out as long as he maintains his petulant attitude on the park. All this "he's a young laddie" and "gets too much abuse" guff doesn't wash with me. He's a professional footballer earning a wage that most 20 year olds can only dream of. For him to adopt this "its no ma fault" and "everyones against me" psyche is just insulting to everyone who pays good money to watch the team. I want to see players do well at Hearts, regardless of age, nationality or religion...but there's something about this boy that really grinds my gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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