BRY Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/7662554.stm What an @rse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 The type of blind arrogance that we have grown to expect from the OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallschunkychicken Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 It's 'incredulous' what he comes out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 "It is about time they did and it is my intention to make sure they stop disadvantaging our supporters by putting prices up," he said. "If they can't recognise that is not the way to go, they need to have a long, hard think to themselves. Other clubs have to realise that paying the OF more money is the best way to go? I am surprised that the other clubs have not yet seen the glorious light and handed over wedge after wedge to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Bain is a lying, greedy, slimey, disgusting stain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 What an arse that man is. What he is saying is tantamount to blackmail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 What a cant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish_chicP Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 What a ridiculous man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 As Ralph Wiggum would say "I'm bembarrassed for you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 "SPL clubs do not recognise what the number of travelling Rangers supporters bring to the economy," said Bain. What an ignorant little sh it. I'd rather not have 3,000 inbred, buckie drinking tramps hanging about my city ****ing and spewing and doorways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 what do we expect from a club who jump into bed with their so-called bitter rivals to impose what is effectively a protection racket? it seems that the knuckle-dragger element within their support have their uses after all. to be used as a threat against partner clubs to squeeze a little more cash out of them. the best way forward for hearts would surely to have been to exclude all rangers and celtic fans from tynecastle. it could have been done if we were selling home tickets... unfortunately we aren't though and will end up having to put up with the filth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Please can we get a '**** your 5%' banner for the next Huns game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groatallar Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 OF GTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 He is an complete idiot. I would support ANY action Hearts took to prevent paying the OF this 5% surcharge - no OF fans, sell them themselves, putting up prices - really ANYTHING. In fact, if you are a paid employee of Hearts and reading/posting on JKB, then please take note of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 The type of blind arrogance that we have grown to expect from the OF. That is kinda true, as his statement surely ascends greater heights than anything they have done before IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBjambo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/7662554.stm What an @rse! What a load of sheeeite that stupid bald hun ****ing bar steward talks, yet another reason to hate all those associated with Mordor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzinho Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Stunning arrogance. I hope Hearts continue to tell them to ram their 5% up their farter. I get the feeling some of the smaller clubs may cave eventually though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Sounds to me like Bain is realising it's not going to plan, and he's issuing that statement to convince his own fans that it's for their long term benefit. I don't even think Rangers fans are stupid enough to fall for it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 What a load of sheeeite that stupid bald hun ****ing bar steward talks, yet another reason to hate all those associated with Mordor! Bain you are a complete and utter *ANKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Sounds to me like Bain is realising it's not going to plan, and he's issuing that statement to convince his own fans that it's for their long term benefit. I don't even think Rangers fans are stupid enough to fall for it though. oh i fancy you may have under-estimated the gullibility of the archetypal rioter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 He is probably getting stick from some of the supporters groups and rather than admit he acted in haste and without consultation with the rest of the league , he is still dfending it as a good idea What a tw@t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 So what happens come a year or two down the line when the OF think to themselves that this 5% just aint enough and decide **** it we want another 2.5% or more.Give in now and you will get fleeced forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilamas Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Equating all those clubs who don't give in to them as "selling debt" to their supporters while it is good weather - Oh, puleeeease! I wonder what the immediate cost saving would be on police (inside and outside the ground) and ground costs if they didn't come? I would hope that a lot of clubs could actually be better off by having fewer OF fans come visiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 he's a complete tool. His argument that it is 'for the benefit of Rangers supporters' is completely nonsensical when clubs have reacted in the entirely predictable way of increasing prices for the OF. If he didn't see that one coming he must have been polishing his head with a lead based product. I wonder how he'd react if other clubs, with smaller staffs, started levying a 20% admin fee on the sale of their tickets for Ibrox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Spackler Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 "SPL clubs do not recognise what the number of travelling Rangers supporters bring to the economy," said Bain. True. They keep a lot of policeman in employment. Seriously though, do the Rangers fans themselves like being used as commodities by their own club? All fans are of course most club's main source of revenue but the way Rangers and Celtic are using their fans is taking the p%$s. It takes two teams to make a match and several teams to make the league that serves the OF with competition. Perhaps Bain should think about this. If he thinks charging a surcharge is OK then fine. Away down south with the pair of you, we'll quite happily carry on up here in our "provincial" league. The OF really are incredibly unlikeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 To Bain and his sellik counterparts , stick your 5% up your jacksey's, we should be able to charge extra for having their gypsies,tramps and thieves in our CAPITAL city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best in the land Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Please can we get a '**** your 5%' banner for the next Huns game. yup, could be used when we play the tims if anyone can organise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Other clubs have to realise that paying the OF more money is the best way to go? I am surprised that the other clubs have not yet seen the glorious light and handed over wedge after wedge to them I agree I for one will put forward a motion at the next AGM that we split our season ticket money evenly giving half to rangers and half to celtic. What have we been thinking of all these years!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albishop Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 "SPL clubs do not recognise what the number of travelling Rangers supporters bring to the economy," Why should Hearts care if the corner shops increase their revenue by soaring Buckie sales. How exactly does this benefit Hearts? I'm sure the policing cost is much great, per capita when the glasgow **** visit Tynie than any other team, possibly with the exception of the hobo tramps. What a complete tvvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiehmfc Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I was glad to see that hearts are selling direct to Celtic fans for the up coming game, There is no way we should go with this, just another excuse for the gruesome twosome to try and strangle some more money out of the other clubs as if they don't already get enough. Also I noticed in this report that he said the tickets for St Mirren were ?6 or ?7 dearer than for the St Mirren end?I thought this was banned by the SPL to stop clubs doing precisely Bain has accused St Mirren of ??? Btw well done to Falkirk, Hibs and ourselves for standing up to them...its a shame that the other teams have not done similarly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/7661988.stm Couldn't help laughing when I noticed that the land around Ibrox is to be given to Rangers by Glasgow City Council for development. Based on fair value accounting should Ibrox not be valued as zero in the Rangers accounts in that case, as the stadium has no value other than as a football stadium and the land beneath is worth nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I was glad to see that hearts are selling direct to Celtic fans for the up coming game, I'm glad we're not giving in to Celtics 5%, but I'd rather we just said to Celtic "fine, if you don't want any tickets for your fans, that is your choice. We won't give you any tickets for your fans". By SPL rules, we are obliged to provide Celtic with tickets to sell to their fans if they so wish. We are NOT obliged to provide tickets direct to Celtic fans, if and when Celtic choose not to do so. Had we done this, the Celtic fans would've been up in arms and I'm sure Celtic would've been forced to back down entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ross Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 We have to pay Rangers for the 'pleasure'of letting their fans into OUR ground. You couldn't make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I'm glad we're not giving in to Celtics 5%, but I'd rather we just said to Celtic "fine, if you don't want any tickets for your fans, that is your choice. We won't give you any tickets for your fans". By SPL rules, we are obliged to provide Celtic with tickets to sell to their fans if they so wish. We are NOT obliged to provide tickets direct to Celtic fans, if and when Celtic choose not to do so. Had we done this, the Celtic fans would've been up in arms and I'm sure Celtic would've been forced to back down entirely. We are almost doing that. Hearts have "challenged" Hearts fans to sell the whole ground out, if we do, C*lt!c will get zero allocation. We will ONLY sell to C*lt!c fans if the ground (up to a certain level in the School End) is not full by the end of the month. At least I think the end of the month is the cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 We are almost doing that. Hearts have "challenged" Hearts fans to sell the whole ground out, if we do, C*lt!c will get zero allocation. We will ONLY sell to C*lt!c fans if the ground (up to a certain level in the School End) is not full by the end of the month. At least I think the end of the month is the cut off. I wish that were true. Hearts have said if we dont sell enough tickets then they will give the whole Roseburn end to the Tims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 We are almost doing that. Hearts have "challenged" Hearts fans to sell the whole ground out, if we do, C*lt!c will get zero allocation. We will ONLY sell to C*lt!c fans if the ground (up to a certain level in the School End) is not full by the end of the month. At least I think the end of the month is the cut off. unfortunately, I think that was just for the section or two we'd taken from them mate, no the whole roseburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I wish that were true.Hearts have said if we dont sell enough tickets then they will give the whole Roseburn end to the Tims. unfortunately, I think that was just for the section or two we'd taken from them mate, no the whole roseburn. Yeah, apologies. I just re-read that and noticed that. On first reading, I understood that to be IF we sold out those two sections of the School End, we would then sell ALL tickets to Hearts fans. Stupid me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsgirl Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 He is probably getting stick from some of the supporters groups and rather than admit he acted in haste and without consultation with the rest of the league , he is still dfending it as a good idea What a tw@t You are right on the money there. It was discussed many years ago at Rangers etc and dimissed as unfeasable. This time they decided to forgo consulting other clubs and simply told the other ten clubs what they were going to do. It hasn't worked as well as they had liked so they need to paint it in a better light to their own fans rather than admit it is simply blackmail and greed. Hearts (for the time being) will be giving them nothing. Let's hope they continue to see sense! No 5% charge (and in a perfect world, no OF) in the SPL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiehmfc Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I'm glad we're not giving in to Celtics 5%, but I'd rather we just said to Celtic "fine, if you don't want any tickets for your fans, that is your choice. We won't give you any tickets for your fans". By SPL rules, we are obliged to provide Celtic with tickets to sell to their fans if they so wish. We are NOT obliged to provide tickets direct to Celtic fans, if and when Celtic choose not to do so. Had we done this, the Celtic fans would've been up in arms and I'm sure Celtic would've been forced to back down entirely. I agree with the sentiment, unfortunatley i dont think we are in the position to turn down the extra 100k or so the extra 2000 fans will generate. I wish we could though, and if the team was doing well then we probably would have been able to as we could have sold the tickets to Hearts fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I'm glad we're not giving in to Celtics 5%, but I'd rather we just said to Celtic "fine, if you don't want any tickets for your fans, that is your choice. We won't give you any tickets for your fans". By SPL rules, we are obliged to provide Celtic with tickets to sell to their fans if they so wish. We are NOT obliged to provide tickets direct to Celtic fans, if and when Celtic choose not to do so. Had we done this, the Celtic fans would've been up in arms and I'm sure Celtic would've been forced to back down entirely. As much as i hate the OF fans being in tynie, i think the way the finances are we could not have told the tims to take a hike ! The thing that the OF do not reliase is that with out the rest of us their are ****ed ! There is no-way uefa would ever let them into a european league and the EPL must be getting sick of them asking again and again, this will never happen ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 "SPL clubs do not recognise what the number of travelling Rangers supporters bring to the economy," said Bain. True. They keep a lot of policeman in employment. Seriously though, do the Rangers fans themselves like being used as commodities by their own club? All fans are of course most club's main source of revenue but the way Rangers and Celtic are using their fans is taking the p%$s. It takes two teams to make a match and several teams to make the league that serves the OF with competition. Perhaps Bain should think about this. If he thinks charging a surcharge is OK then fine. Away down south with the pair of you, we'll quite happily carry on up here in our "provincial" league. The OF really are incredibly unlikeable. The English Premier League,or lower leagues down south,do not want or need them.On the day that the "39th game" idea is,again,being talked up by Asia,it shows you how their arrogance looks more ridiculous by the day. The man is living in a bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 "A total of ?2.5m worth of tickets is sold on behalf of other SPL clubs which benefit them and their economy," he said. That means that they're asking for 5% of ?2.5m, which is ?125,000 Presumably there will be a roughly equal split between the two clubs meaning that they're squabbling over approximately ?62,500. We're talking about clubs with turnovers in excess of ?50,000,000 and they're bitching about sixty grand. That's probably less than a days takings for the Ibrox pie stalls. Celtic could probably lose that down the back of the sofa and not notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davjambo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Here is something that is worrying me about this 5% thing. Im pretty sure hearts are now selling directly to celtic fans for the upcoming fixture. Call me paranoid if you like but does that not leave hearts open to being responsible for their behavior, and then the celtic board can blame us for anything their fans do, claiming its our fault for not letting celtic sell the tickets in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 The only way to deal with this is to be as awkward as possible when selling tickets to Old Firm Fans. Tickets only sold on a specified day to their season ticker holders who will have to produce their season ticket before being sold a ticket for Tynecastle - and full details noted. That way we would be selling to their supporters but supporters that they have on their data base and would be fully responsible for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabJambo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 His arrogance is nothing short of unbelivable. It's not just that what he says is the biggest one-sided argument since Hitler wanted to "cleanse" Germany of Jews... it's also the way he says it - a case of "how can these small clubs be so stupid not to agree with our brilliant masterplan and the sooner they just roll over and say thank you to us the better". Bawheid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellycopter Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Their sense of self importance is staggering. I guess that's what comes from being a biggish fish in a very wee pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield Terrier Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 On the BBC website every club, apart from Rangers, has this as their headline story. Are Rangers sponsoring the BBC? Do we care what has been discussed at Rangers AGM? The clubs have already responded to Rangers money grabbing attempts, I can understand Rangers petulance but why inflict it on everyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngy Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hi folks Just a wee update for you since the subject of this ridiculous surcharge has been raised again. You can read the current state of things with the petition here> viewfromgorgie.blogspot.com Cheers youngy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyjambo Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 **** the OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samster Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/7662554.stm What an @rse! I'm reading that article and genuinely thinking to myself is he having a laugh. What an arrogant, pompous fandango. We should be grateful the drunken stinking Glasgow hordes come through here and defecate on our city?! Yes, thanks very much indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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