jamboinglasgow Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/scotland/2008/10/09/james-will-consider-switch-if-burley-proves-he-wants-him-86908-20787445/ bascily abscene of quotes which makes me question the story about a meeting between James McCarthey and Burley but it is the bit that next month with friendlies for both Scotland and Republic of Ireland and could be possible he is called up to both squads as a tug of war finally comes to a climax. I know people are angry at him turning his back on Scotland, but if he changed to become a full Scottish player than I would be pleased. The lad is a great prospect and could be an important part of a future Scottish team. Also on a sidenote, not surprised he was not happy at being snubbed by scotland squads. They too often fill young scotland squads with rangers and celtic players, its almost like they dont look at other teams. That is why I question McGeadys point that he was snubbed (but got told by a celtic fan it was actully he got bullied in scotland squads.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Watch me get shot down in flames........... **** him. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/scotland/2008/10/09/james-will-consider-switch-if-burley-proves-he-wants-him-86908-20787445/ bascily abscene of quotes which makes me question the story about a meeting between James McCarthey and Burley but it is the bit that next month with friendlies for both Scotland and Republic of Ireland and could be possible he is called up to both squads as a tug of war finally comes to a climax. I know people are angry at him turning his back on Scotland, but if he changed to become a full Scottish player than I would be pleased. The lad is a great prospect and could be an important part of a future Scottish team. Also on a sidenote, not surprised he was not happy at being snubbed by scotland squads. They too often fill young scotland squads with rangers and celtic players, its almost like they dont look at other teams. That is why I question McGeadys point that he was snubbed (but got told by a celtic fan it was actully he got bullied in scotland squads.) The McGeady thing was because at the time he was eligible for Scottish schools, Scotland had a policy of not picking players who didn't play for their school. Celtic at the time did not let s-from players play for their school so there were no Celtic players picked. McGeady then started to play for RoI. He then, imo, thought Ireland were a better bet to qualify for the WC and EC so stuck with them. McCarthy's situation I think is just that the RoI asked him first. I'd like to think he would pick Scotland if it came down to a choice but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I think that both McCarthy and McArthur looked very good against us a month or so ago. Hopefully GB would be able to convince him to play for Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The McGeady thing was because at the time he was eligible for Scottish schools, Scotland had a policy of not picking players who didn't play for their school. Celtic at the time did not let s-from players play for their school so there were no Celtic players picked. McGeady then started to play for RoI. He then, imo, thought Ireland were a better bet to qualify for the WC and EC so stuck with them. Cheers for the info Diego. Thing is tho, all the above should mean absolutely nowt. If you're Scottish, you should hope and pray the maybe one day you will be luck enough to play for Scotland. Whatever some schools policy may mean at that moment in time, whatever the prospects of qualifying for major tournaments should be, these should not even come into the equation. He is Scottish. To even entertain the notion of playing for someone else tells me he knows f^%k all about what playing for our country should mean. Ignorant wee laddies, their loss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ped Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Cheers for the info Diego. Thing is tho, all the above should mean absolutely nowt. If you're Scottish, you should hope and pray the maybe one day you will be luck enough to play for Scotland. Whatever some schools policy may mean at that moment in time, whatever the prospects of qualifying for major tournaments should be, these should not even come into the equation. He is Scottish. To even entertain the notion of playing for someone else tells me he knows f^%k all about what playing for our country should mean. Ignorant wee laddies, their loss.... ah, that's where your wrong, he believes he's Irish as do many Weegies, my brother just married into a family of them, none of them born in Ireland for generations but still long for the homeland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 ah, that's where your wrong, he believes he's Irish as do many Weegies, my brother just married into a family of them, none of them born in Ireland for generations but still long for the homeland! Going off on a slight tangent..........this is the exact reason why the west of Scotland needs some sort of "peace process", an almost tangible sign that things have finally changed. Christ, it seems to have worked in N Irelend!!!! The amount of clowns who think they are "honouring" their "family values" is unreal.......fighting for a cause that simply no longer exists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosimmy Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Cheers for the info Diego. Thing is tho, all the above should mean absolutely nowt. If you're Scottish, you should hope and pray the maybe one day you will be luck enough to play for Scotland. Whatever some schools policy may mean at that moment in time, whatever the prospects of qualifying for major tournaments should be, these should not even come into the equation. He is Scottish. To even entertain the notion of playing for someone else tells me he knows f^%k all about what playing for our country should mean. Ignorant wee laddies, their loss.... Agreed.. It should be the upmost honour to play for your country!!! little scrote!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 ah, that's where your wrong, he believes he's Irish as do many Weegies, my brother just married into a family of them, none of them born in Ireland for generations but still long for the homeland! Can't understand why, as Ireland's pish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdust Caesar Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 A newspaper article stated that McCarthy chose Ireland because his Irish grandfather begged him to do it, probably on his death bed or something. I'd be surprised but delighted if he does switch to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTidy Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The boy seems open to persuasion. Hard to read too much into that article. If it was negative we would dismiss it straight away with no quotes and an un-named source. What they should do is get him along on Saturday, sampling the atmosphere of a packed Hampden as Scotland record a good victory. That should be enough to persuade him. Of course, there is scope for this plan to backfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 A newspaper article stated that McCarthy chose Ireland because his Irish grandfather begged him to do it, probably on his death bed or something. I'd be surprised but delighted if he does switch to us. what I heard it was his grandfather wanted him to play in the Ireland top. The boy could argue he has played up to U21 football for Ireland so he played for his grandfathers country now he should be able to play for his home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCGilmour Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 according to the Daily Express McCArthy has chosen Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Of course, there is scope for this plan to backfire. As is always the case when it comes to Scotland!! You going through on the bus to the game or are you meeting everyone at Rutherglen Snooker club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Watch me get shot down in flames........... **** him. End of. Good shout! Once a traitor, always a traitor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 according to the Daily Express McCArthy has chosen Ireland I could understand an Englishman who's nowhere near good enough to play for England choosing to play for one of the other home nations through the grandparent rule (like Hutchinson or Quashie) but a Scotsman choosing to play for Ireland - I can't get my head round that one. Both countries probably equally pesh, so surely you would want to play your country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Watch me get shot down in flames........... **** him. End of. TAKE THAT :sterb032:AND THAT:sterb032:AND ANOTHER :sterb032:Mr Sifter:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular John Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Let the little arrogant **** go. No one is too big for a nation and it's ridiculous Burley would need to convince anyone to choose to play for the country of their birth. Why anyone would choose Rep of Ireland, a footballing backwater nowadays over Scotland is bewildering. Plus the fact he's still 17, his career could easily collapse and end up at Pollock juniors by the time he's 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makween Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I think that both McCarthy and McArthur looked very good against us a month or so ago. They touched the ball about twice each. I don't like MhcCarthy, but really don't care if he chooses to play for Scotland. I don't care about Scotland at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 McCarthy should play for Ireland, it was his choice, he should stick with it. Both McCarthy and McGeady stated that Ireland posed their greatest chance for playing in an international tournament, let them lie in the bed they made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreigB1989 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I haven't seen much of him to comment on him going to be a great player....but i still think if ur scottish u should play for scotland none of this my grandparents are irish/english type thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 They touched the ball about twice each. I don't like MhcCarthy, but really don't care if he chooses to play for Scotland. I don't care about Scotland at all. But still you post on this thread... Strange that, eh? As Scotland need all the good players we can get, if he does have a change of heart and becomes available for selection to future Scotland squads it can only be a good thing. Whether or not he turns out to be the top player that some have predicted is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTidy Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 As is always the case when it comes to Scotland!! You going through on the bus to the game or are you meeting everyone at Rutherglen Snooker club? Meeting folk there but getting the bus back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123kid Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Choose Ireland, not much we can do about it. Great Prospect aswell, impressed down at liverpool. Future Premiership (and unfortunately Irish) star. Irish future team is shaping up nicely eh with him and Mcgeady, and no doubt more to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 dont want irish wannabes playing for scotland ****** him and ****** mcgeady and anyone else born in scotland but choose ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 McCarthy chose to play for Ireland because of the SFA and their stupid rules. If I recall correctly basically the SFA where not interested in McCarthy because he played for his school etc rather than an initative club and the Irish didnt let this affect their decision Roll on a few years and McCarthy is a top prospect and suddenly the SFA want him If the SFA didnt put up barriers in the first place he wouldnt have been playing for Ireland, there was no dying grandad etc here, simply he was given an opportunity that the SFA wouldnt give him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I would bet my life on McCarthy supporting the Mhanks growing up:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Dirty ****** Turning his back on Scotland For them! **** of the earth! He shall be getting Pelters at Tynie from me anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makween Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 But still you post on this thread... Strange that, eh? What's strange about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Does anyone know if Celtic fan Nheil MhacFarlane had been good enough whether he wanted to play for Scotland or Rep of Ireland ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I would bet my life on McCarthy supporting the Mhanks growing up:cool: What makes you think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Does anyone know if Celtic fan Nheil MhacFarlane had been good enough whether he wanted to play for Scotland or Rep of Ireland ?I know what you are getting at but those wee Celtic supporting neds from tough Glasgow neighbourhoods with Irish grandparents are a different breed. I would again bet my life that McGeady and McCarthy would be waving Irish tricolors at Parkhead in their youth. Just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 What makes you think that? You can tell by his face;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlett Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Why not call him up for a game and put him on in stoppage time then he will have no choice but to play for scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Why not call him up for a game and put him on in stoppage time then he will have no choice but to play for scotland.Because he would refuse to play:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 What's strange about it? "really don't care if he chooses to play for Scotland. I don't care about Scotland at all." So why post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Does anyone know if Celtic fan Nheil MhacFarlane had been good enough whether he wanted to play for Scotland or Rep of Ireland ? Dunno who he would've wanted to play for, but lets assume he too wouldve chosen Ireland.......well f&*k him too! 30 odd posts on this thread, and Im amazed at the "lets hope he might change his mind" view that keeps coming over. Listen, this is international football we are talking about, this is not about a player choosing his next move within the professional ranks out there. There is a massive difference between the two. As a professional footballer, YOU choose your club, but your COUNTRY chooses you. Until such times as it does, you sit on your hands and hope. You dont tout yerself to anyone who might look "a better bet" at that moment in time. To me, its fundamentally wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Weathers Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 As a professional footballer, YOU choose your club, but your COUNTRY chooses you. Until such times as it does, you sit on your hands and hope. You dont tout yerself to anyone who might look "a better bet" at that moment in time. To me, its fundamentally wrong. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Dunno who he would've wanted to play for, but lets assume he too wouldve chosen Ireland.......well f&*k him too! 30 odd posts on this thread, and Im amazed at the "lets hope he might change his mind" view that keeps coming over. Listen, this is international football we are talking about, this is not about a player choosing his next move within the professional ranks out there. There is a massive difference between the two. As a professional footballer, YOU choose your club, but your COUNTRY chooses you. Until such times as it does, you sit on your hands and hope. You dont tout yerself to anyone who might look "a better bet" at that moment in time. To me, its fundamentally wrong. Agree 100% forget anyone who has any doubts about playing for their country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makween Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Does anyone know if Celtic fan Nheil MhacFarlane had been good enough whether he wanted to play for Scotland or Rep of Ireland ? You've said this before, kiddo. He wasn't a Dhim then either and still isn't. So why post? Why not post, kiddo? There are plenty of things on here that I don't care about but still post about. In terms of gauging public opinion, people who don't care are just as important as people who do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 You've said this before, kiddo. He wasn't a Dhim then either and still isn't. Why not post, kiddo? There are plenty of things on here that I don't care about but still post about.* In terms of gauging public opinion, people who don't care are just as important as people who do ...but their opinions are a great deal less so, precisely because they don't care. If someone doesn't care about a subject, they have probably given it little or no thought, so why should their opinions be given any significance? Maybe, of course, you do care a little bit more about the Scottish national team (in an entirely negative way, of course - I wouldn't want anyone to get the wrong impression) in general, and the potential for James McCarthy to be selected for it in particular, than you are letting on. (* Well, if it helps pass the time and keeps you off the streets, that's OK, I suppose... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellycopter Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 If George Burley wants a player to play for Scotland, that's good enough for me. Leave the politics to the SFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Wooks Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Didnt Kirk Broadfoot have the same dilema???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Going off on a slight tangent..........this is the exact reason why the west of Scotland needs some sort of "peace process", an almost tangible sign that things have finally changed. Christ, it seems to have worked in N Irelend!!!! The amount of clowns who think they are "honouring" their "family values" is unreal.......fighting for a cause that simply no longer exists! Peace process? What for? To make young Tim footballers feel Scottish enough to actually want to play for us? What a crock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 is the laddie no still 17? let him change his mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB1874 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I wouldnt want the ginger weasel playin for us now after puttin on the colours of that nation............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I wouldnt want the ginger weasel playin for us now after puttin on the colours of that nation............ Yep, if his heart doesn't make the decision easily then I don't want him in a Scotland shirt. I had an English grandparent so I could represent England in theory, but I would never consider myself English and could never represent England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markletissier Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 you either want to play for your country or you don't, simple as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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