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Is The Illuminati Provoking

Economic Collapse?

(Remembering Svali's Words)

By Henry Makow PhD

9-15-8

 

 

We may be on the verge of a stock market crash reminiscent of 1929.

 

I was watching a special CNBC program on the financial crisis when the news came across that Moody's had downgraded the Insurance giant AIG (American International Group.) This company was already on the ropes Monday when its stock crumbled to $4.75 from $11, %60 in one day. It was down from a $70 52-week-high. The company had gone to the Fed for a bailout. It was estimated it needed $40 billion.

 

Because of the Moody's downgrade, it emerges that it will need alot more money to avert bankruptcy. This is a massive company that holds the pensions of millions of employees. A money manager estimated that a trillion dollars would be lost if AIG declares bankruptcy. The whole world financial system could be taken down. He said banks in the Far East were already acting like this is inevitable, and the collapse already has been set in motion.

 

As you can imagine, the CNBC commentators were frantic. One demanded to know how the Fed can allow this to happen. "We know they print money," he said. Another wondered if the States whose pension funds were held by AIG could organize a bailout. Not enough time, he was told.

 

The bottom line is that Tuesday and the rest of this week could be ugly so be prepared. The second bottom line is that this Depression like the last appears to be caused by a deliberate contraction of credit. House prices are falling because banks don't have the money to lend to house buyers. As a result, portfolios holding mortgage backed securities are tumbling, taking banks with them. The Fed, after bailing out Fannie May and Fredie Mack, have let Lehman Brothers fail. AIG appears to be next and the dominoes will continue to fall.

 

At this time, it is important to remember that an Illuminati defector known as "Svali" said she was taught that the "end of the world" scenario involved an economic collapse. Remember the Illuminati is a Masonic cult founded and funded by the central bankers who own the Fed. Here is her full testimony given about ten year ago.

 

<http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html>http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html

 

"Want to hear the end of the world scenario the Illuminati taught me? It was cult propaganda, but this is how they believed the New Order would be ushered in:

 

There will be continued conflict in the Mideast, with a severe threat of nuclear war being the culmination of these hostilities. An economic collapse that will devastate the economy of the US and Europe, much like the great depression.

 

One reason that our economy continues limping along is the artificial supports that the Federal Reserve had given it, manipulating interest rates, etc. But one day, this won't work (or this leverage will be withdrawn on purpose) and the next great depression will hit.

 

The government will call in its bonds and loans, and credit card debts will be called in. There will be massive bankruptcies nationwide. Europe will stabilize first,and Germany, France and England (surprise) will have the strongest economies, and will institute through the UN an international currency. Japan will also pull out, although their economy will be weakened.

 

Peacekeeping forces will be sent out by the UN and local bases to prevent riots. The leaders will reveal themselves, and people will be asked to make a pledge of loyalty during a time of chaos and financial devastation.

 

Doesn't sound pleasant, does it? I don't know the exact time frame for all of this, and wouldn't want to even guess. The good news is that if a person is debt-free, owes nothing to the government or credit debt, and can live self sufficiently, they may do better than others.:eek: I would invest in gold, not stocks, if I had the income.

 

Gold will once again be the world standard, and dollars will be pretty useless (remember after the Civil War? Our money will be worth about what confederate money was after the collapse).:eek:

 

All this said, it could just be cult propaganda taught to me and others to frighten us. It may be that none of this will happen. I sincerely hope not.

 

That noted, let's remember the words of Denis Healey, former British Defence Secretary and Secretary of the Exchequer: "World events do not occur by accident: They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings.":eek::eek:

 

<http://giuli.com/svali/EssentialSvali.pdf>http://giuli.com/svali/EssentialSvali.pdf

 

I think we are in for a recession, maybe even a Depression but I don't think the Illuminati is ready to declare their New World Order just yet. However, this could be part of a larger scenario leading to World War Three, similar to the role the Great Depression played as a precursor to World War Two.:eek:

 

The Illuminati goal is to torture the human race until we cry out to them for world government, anything to stop the pain. ----:eek:

 

Henry Makow Ph.D. is the author of "Cruel Hoax: Feminism and the New World Order." (<http://www.cruelhoax.ca>http://www.cruelhoax.ca) His articles can be found at his web site <http://www.henrymakow.com>http://www.henrymakow.com He enjoys receiving your comments, some of which he posts on his site using first names only. [email protected]

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i know:107years: but depressing as it seems, things could be going that way , those behind the scenes that really control the purse strings have the tools to make it happen for their own agenda , PROBLEM, REACTION, SOLUTION, three easy steps when you have control of the world"s banking and money industry.:cool:

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i know:107years: but depressing as it seems, things could be going that way , those behind the scenes that really control the purse strings have the tools to make it happen for their own agenda , PROBLEM, REACTION, SOLUTION, three easy steps when you have control of the world"s banking and money industry.:cool:

 

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The Crash of Western Capitalist Civilization?

Politics / Economic Depression Sep 14, 2008 - 11:54 AM

 

By: Richard_C_Cook

 

Politics

 

Best Financial Markets Analysis Article?Train-wreck? doesn't even begin to describe what is starting to happen to the U.S. today with the financial crisis, an onrushing depression, and the failure of George W. Bush's war policy as he is faced down by Iran and the Russian bear.

 

But in an even broader sense, the West, as a civilization, after a century of world war and the utter failure of global finance capitalism, may have reached its limits.

 

Those with a vested interest in the status quo dismiss any suggestion that something is wrong. This includes Donald Luskin, author of an article in the Washington Post on Sunday, September 14, titled: ?A Nation of Exaggerators: Quit Doling Out That Bad Economy Line.?

 

Luskin writes, ?The relentless drumbeat of pessimism in the media and on the campaign trail? is ?a virus.?

 

He continues: ?Sure, there are trouble spots in the economy, as the government takeover of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and jitters about Wall Street firm Lehman Brothers, amply demonstrate. And unemployment figures are up a bit, too. None of this, however, is cause for depression -- or exaggerated Depression comparisons.?

 

Continue reading, and you find out who Luskin is: a campaign adviser to John McCain.

 

We know that ?where you stand depends on where you sit??and who pays you for advice. So is a catastrophic meltdown coming?

 

If so, probably a majority of the people in the world are thinking: ?Serves them right.? For the last 500 years, the West has been striding across the globe, armed to the teeth with firearms, warships, bombers, and?more recently?depleted uranium, enforcing the ?white man's burden? by enslaving nations and peoples and confiscating everything of value?ranging from art objects to gold to oil?that can be carried away.

 

The financiers behind it all have also used the diabolically clever practice of creating money ?out of thin air? to put the natives everywhere into debt, and, when that has proven insufficient, of doing the same to their own populations.

 

All this is rationalized by various brands of racism, cultural superiority, social Darwinism, historical determinism, ?dominion of the Elect,? ?God's chosen people,? etc. Or, simply, ?might makes right.?

 

Some call it ?The New World Order.?

 

So today, we Americans, denizens of the ?land of the free and the home of the brave,? victors in two world wars, bearers of ?democracy? to Afghanistan and Iraq, allies of the brave Israelis who hold high the banner of Judeo-Christian values among the ungrateful Palestinians?well, we Americans owe our own bankers almost $70 trillion at most recent count. With the government takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, we owe holders of bad housing loans, including the governments of China, Korea, and Japan, another few trillion.

 

The bluster of Kissinger, Brzezinski, the Kristols, the Christian fundamentalists, and their paid-off politicians and media millionaires notwithstanding, America?indeed, the entire West?has been found out, perhaps even checkmated on the world stage.

 

The Bush/Cheney wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have blackened America's name forever. Iran has called our bluff. In Israel the gap between rich and poor is increasing as much as in the U.S. According to an article by Ian S. Lustick, the Palestinians have stood up to the Israelis to the point where more Jews are emigrating from that country than are moving in, and where those who remain are increasingly huddling around Tel Aviv as a safe haven. (Ian S. Lustick, ?Abandoning the Iron Wall: ?Israel and the Middle Eastern Muck',? Middle East Policy , Vo. XV, No. 3, Fall 2008.)

 

In the 1990s, the European bankers used U.S. and NATO forces to dismember Yugoslavia so George Soros and the Rothschilds could gobble up Balkan resources. But that strategy is failing in the Caucasus, where the Russians fought back against the genocidal attack by Dick Cheney's poodle, Mikheil Saakashvili, the New York-trained attorney the CIA got elected as the president of Georgia.

 

And now the people of Ukraine, the ?Little Russians,? realizing what the West has in store for them, are rushing back into the Slavic fold and may be only a year or so away from reuniting with their ?Great Russian? cousins across the border.

 

What is telling is to watch the Western financier press, chiefly the Washington Post and the New York Times , fume about Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin and his ?authoritarian? manner. An example is the article by Times correspondent Ellen Barry on Putin's September 11 press conference in Moscow. She wrote, ?In three-and-a-half hours, in tones that were alternatively pugilistic and needy, Vladimir V. Putin tried to explain himself.?

 

I'm sorry, Ms. Barry. You and your editors may think your writing is cute, but Vladimir Putin is the foremost figure on the world stage today. He will remain so after George W. Bush leaves the White House disgraced.

 

Putin is heir to an epochal movement of patriots who began in the 1970s to take back Russia from within. It started with a base of operations within the KGB and the Orthodox Church, led to Gorbachev's glasnost in the 1980s, and culminated in the Second Russian Revolution of 1991. At that point, the Western financiers gleefully rushed in to support an assault from the Russian ?oligarchs? who were looting Russia of everything it owned.

 

The oligarchs were the shock troops of a financier assault that had already begun to overlap in the West with the Russian Mafia. Cheered on by the Washington Post and aided by academic advisors from places like Harvard, this international syndicate nearly destroyed Russia during the 1990s. But when Putin was appointed interim president by Boris Yelstin in 1999, and after winning the presidential election of 2000 in his own right, he began to fight back.

 

From the mid-1970s to today, thousands of Russian gangsters, along with many hard-line Bolsheviks/Stalinists, were allowed to emigrate. Many settled in the U.S. and are here today, and many more settled in Israel. In fact, one reason the price of condos in New York, Miami, Tel Aviv, and elsewhere has inflated so much reportedly is the flood of cash from racketeering.

 

The crooks have allied themselves with the Colombian drug cartels and have heavily infiltrated the world's financial systems, even setting up their own banks for laundering money and speculating in the commodities markets.

 

Today, Putin is cleaning out the remaining gangster class. His efforts reached a milestone in January with the arrest in Moscow of Semion Mogilevich, called ?the world's most dangerous man.?

 

Putin has declared that the world will not be governed in a ?unipolar? manner; i.e. by the U.S. military as the police force for the global financiers. This does not mean Russia has to be our enemy. In fact the world would be much better off, and much safer, if we joined with Russia as allies in keeping the peace.

 

But to do that our system would have to change, because finance capitalism is far too unstable to coexist with other nations as equals. It must either grow or die, because it always needs new victims to pay the interest on its usury practices and to finance its speculative balloons. As a last resort, it needs the kind of financial institution bailouts being engineered by Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson, where the only remaining stopgap is borrowing from public funds and adding to the national debt.

 

Once economic growth stops, as has now happened, and all the bubbles to restart it have blown up, as has also happened, the end really is nigh. Especially if the host?the U.S.?is bankrupt.

 

What is coming at us today isn't just another downturn. If people like McCain adviser Donald Luskin doubt it, maybe, instead of writing campaign propaganda, they should ask the fired CEOs of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the stockholders of Lehman Brothers, whose shares have dropped ninety percent in less than a year, and the millions who are losing their homes.:eek:

 

Presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain are calling for ?change.? Well, if I were standing on a beach with a 100-foot tsunami roaring in my direction, I would call for change too. Except I would not be standing around arguing about the meaning of the words ?lipstick on a pig.?

 

By Richard C. Cook

http:// http://www.richardccook.com'>http://www.richardccook.com

 

Copyright 2008 by Richard C. Cook

 

Richard C. Cook is a former U.S. federal government analyst, whose career included service with the U.S. Civil Service Commission, the Food and Drug Administration, the Carter White House, NASA, and the U.S. Treasury Department.:eek: His articles on economics, politics, and space policy have appeared on numerous websites. His book on monetary reform entitled We Hold These Truths: The Hope of Monetary Reform will be published soon by Tendril Press. He is also the author of Challenger Revealed: An Insider's Account of How the Reagan Administration Caused the Greatest Tragedy of the Space Age , called by one reviewer, ?the most important spaceflight book of the last twenty years . ? His Challenger website is at http://www.richardccook.com . A new economics website at http://www.RealSustainableLiving.com is upcoming with partner/author Susan Boskey. To get on his mailing list, for questions and comments, or to pre-purchase copies of his new book, please write [email protected] .

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sounds like a dude who has experience in this field and when people like him start making noises then there's no smoke without fire.:eek:

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Of course they are. When you use the title Illuminati people roll their eyes, the FACT is only a few big organisations hold all the financial power in the world, they call the shots. That is a very dangerous situation. Governments have to bend over to these people and in turn you, me and everybody have to aswell.

 

Most wars have been faught for the pleasure of these people, think how many millions of people have been sacrificed to line the pockets of the filth at the top. They are playing a big fecking game of Civilization, we are just the wee pixels running about the screen following their mouse clicks.

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Guess what's next?

 

could be my friend, drag China into something and all hell brakes loose, thank feck for the jambos eh.:107years:

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Another factor is that the sustainable human population level was passed at the 2 billion mark last century. We are now at well over 6 billion and expanding! The pysical world, never mind the financial one, is creaking. Natural resources are draining away, we are up to our eyes in rubbish and industrial waste, forests are being destroyed to make way for cash crops, soil is being made infertile yet even though most of the world population is misrable and poor we continue to breed like rabbits. I'm afraid it all has to come to a head somewhere along the line.

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Of course they are. When you use the title Illuminati people roll their eyes, the FACT is only a few big organisations hold all the financial power in the world, they call the shots. That is a very dangerous situation. Governments have to bend over to these people and in turn you, me and everybody have to aswell.

 

Most wars have been faught for the pleasure of these people, think how many millions of people have been sacrificed to line the pockets of the filth at the top. They are playing a big fecking game of Civilization, we are just the wee pixels running about the screen following their mouse clicks.

 

 

 

spot on mate, there are dozens of patterns of how they go about it in recent history, no matter how clever they think or try to be these patterns can be seen.:cool:

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The whole financial system is flawed because there are layers of interlocking secndary & tertiary financial markets that are entirely dependant upon the performance of the REAL economy ie the physical economy where the basis of everything is produced - when the real economy starts to suffer & misfire all these layers on top come tumbling down like a house of cards - basically the financial markets have been creating new classes of securities to trade which aren't based on anything real except the income derived from other securities or assets which are built upon other securities & assets etc. which ultimately link to things in the real economy like the financial performances of companies and individual - which is great when the economy is prospering - these new financial instruments were making profits & increasing in value and because they are all interlocked within the assets & holdings of the financial system most appeared to be profitable and generating new wealth but it is an illusion - they are really a side-bet on the performance of the real economy and when that starts to take a hit most of these new financial instruments start to have decreasing or negative value which creating further losses right up & down the chain as it feeds it's way through the system until ultimately these massive banks & financial institutions hold very little real wealth or value at all ..... basically they have been profiting from selling the financial equivalent of 'snake oil' ...

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Another factor is that the sustainable human population level was passed at the 2 billion mark last century. We are now at well over 6 billion and expanding! The pysical world, never mind the financial one, is creaking. Natural resources are draining away, we are up to our eyes in rubbish and industrial waste, forests are being destroyed to make way for cash crops, soil is being made infertile yet even though most of the world population is misrable and poor we continue to breed like rabbits. I'm afraid it all has to come to a head somewhere along the line.

 

ah the one that's most overlooked, OVER POPULATION is a real problem , China had a law i think of one child only, then you look to the third world nations and in particular the Sudan were hundreds of thousands have starved to death over recent years and it need not have happened , why, not because of lack of money given but because throwing money at it and the way it was invested was doomed to failure ,NASA had even developed irrigation systems and sort of bio- spheres were crops would have survived and grown but because it would not make the big bucks it did not happen, they plan to use these highly complex designs on the moon and one day Mars, will i agree there is a real strain on not just overpopulation but also people living longer on the resources on this planet there is no need for people to be living in poverty and dying of hunger in this day and age, sad as it is the people at the very top the ones unseen do not give a feck.:cool:

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Is there any point in going on? Should we all just shoot ourselves? Doom and gloom everywhere you look! I bags to be the last one to shoot myself as I might just change my mind.

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The whole financial system is flawed because there are layers of interlocking secndary & tertiary financial markets that are entirely dependant upon the performance of the REAL economy ie the physical economy where the basis of everything is produced - when the real economy starts to suffer & misfire all these layers on top come tumbling down like a house of cards - basically the financial markets have been creating new classes of securities to trade which aren't based on anything real except the income derived from other securities or assets which are built upon other securities & assets etc. which ultimately link to things in the real economy like the financial performances of companies and individual - which is great when the economy is prospering - these new financial instruments were making profits & increasing in value and because they are all interlocked within the assets & holdings of the financial system most appeared to be profitable and generating new wealth but it is an illusion - they are really a side-bet on the performance of the real economy and when that starts to take a hit most of these new financial instruments start to have decreasing or negative value which creating further losses right up & down the chain as it feeds it's way through the system until ultimately these massive banks & financial institutions hold very little real wealth or value at all ..... basically they have been profiting from selling the financial equivalent of 'snake oil' ...

 

Don't. You'll start him off about the illuminati again...

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The whole financial system is flawed because there are layers of interlocking secndary & tertiary financial markets that are entirely dependant upon the performance of the REAL economy ie the physical economy where the basis of everything is produced - when the real economy starts to suffer & misfire all these layers on top come tumbling down like a house of cards - basically the financial markets have been creating new classes of securities to trade which aren't based on anything real except the income derived from other securities or assets which are built upon other securities & assets etc. which ultimately link to things in the real economy like the financial performances of companies and individual - which is great when the economy is prospering - these new financial instruments were making profits & increasing in value and because they are all interlocked within the assets & holdings of the financial system most appeared to be profitable and generating new wealth but it is an illusion - they are really a side-bet on the performance of the real economy and when that starts to take a hit most of these new financial instruments start to have decreasing or negative value which creating further losses right up & down the chain as it feeds it's way through the system until ultimately these massive banks & financial institutions hold very little real wealth or value at all ..... basically they have been profiting from selling the financial equivalent of 'snake oil' ...

 

 

 

not doubting these financial organizations exist but who allowed them to exist and why, to me it reeks of a smoke screen so to speak to divert the real blame and responsibility of the few manipulating and controlling the worlds banks for their own ends.:eek:

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Don't. You'll start him off about the illuminati again...
:107years:

 

and why not, better than vegetating out to Eastenders, now thats what i call reality eh.:eek:

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Is there any point in going on? Should we all just shoot ourselves? Doom and gloom everywhere you look! I bags to be the last one to shoot myself as I might just change my mind.

 

no need for a defeatist attitude now my good man , yes things are that bad but to take ones head out of the sand is a different ball game, the world is what we choose and make it eh.:rolleyes:

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:hobofish::hobofish:

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and why not, better than vegetating out to Eastenders, now thats what i call reality eh.

 

Or,:eek:, sitting at your computer :107years:, on forums, reading about big :hobofish: Lizards:eek::eek:

 

still, if lizards control the world, does that mean that the hobos will be in charge? or ARE IN CHARGE :eek:

 

:107years:

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:hobofish::hobofish:

 

Or,:eek:, sitting at your computer:bigyawn: :107years:, on forums, reading about big Lizards:eek:(my lizzard is bigger than your lizzard, na, na, nan ,na na na :rolleyes:)

 

still, if lizards control the world, does that mean that the hobos will be in charge? or ARE IN CHARGE :eek:( mind of a poor ill-informed comedian ;))

 

 

you really are acting like a 10 year old eh, who menstioned lizards ( reptilians you meant to say, eh.), and for going on forums that happen to feed more information than the main stream media will ever allow is a sign that things are not what they seem in this cosy safe world of junk tv and mind numbing soaps, quick easy unresearched or badly thought out debunking phrases and of course trying to be the big funny comedian for like mined KBrs (hey look at me boys funny as feck iam eh:rolleyes:), and what has rocked your boat , head still in the sand , shame , still i now how the bigger fool will look when and if this whole game is blown out of the water but for now you can carry on with the 10 year old playground attitude and remember he who laughs last eh.

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you really are acting like a 10 year old eh, who menstioned lizards ( reptilians you meant to say, eh.), and for going on forums that happen to feed more information than the main stream media will ever allow is a sign that things are not what they seem in this cosy safe world of junk tv and mind numbing soaps, quick easy unresearched or badly thought out debunking phrases and of course trying to be the big funny comedian for like mined KBrs (hey look at me boys funny as feck iam eh:rolleyes:), and what has rocked your boat , head still in the sand , shame , still i now how the bigger fool will look when and if this whole game is blown out of the water but for now you can carry on with the 10 year old playground attitude and remember he who laughs last eh.

 

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Illuminati aside, the point that a few global financiers/companies etc do hold such a massive influence over "democratically" elected representatives is one that is overlooked by many as they put their faith in our democratic systems.

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Just look at the news today. The banks ask the government to get a break from the competition laws for the merger to go through, the banks get what they want. They are the ****ing law.

 

When does the revolution begin? I hope it's soon!!

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Illuminati aside, the point that a few global financiers/companies etc do hold such a massive influence over "democratically" elected representatives is one that is overlooked by many as they put their faith in our democratic systems.

 

You are spot on, but part of the problem with the OP is that if you tie this stuff up with rubbish about giant alien lizards "revealing themselves" in ten years after an apocalyptic meltdown, then people are going to ignore the very worrying reality at the centre of the current financial system in the world.

 

anyway, an interesting site to look at, if you've ever wondered about the US federal reserve...

http://www.wikiprotest.com/index.php?title=A_Phone_Call_With_The_Federal_Reserve

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You are spot on, but part of the problem with the OP is that if you tie this stuff up with rubbish about giant alien lizards "revealing themselves" in ten years after an apocalyptic meltdown, then people are going to ignore the very worrying reality at the centre of the current financial system in the world.

 

Indeed. I sometimes wonder if all the bull about lizards etc isn't started/leaked by the powers that be to put people of fthe scent or to discredit those who fall for it.

 

 

anyway, an interesting site to look at, if you've ever wondered about the US federal reserve...

http://www.wikiprotest.com/index.php?title=A_Phone_Call_With_The_Federal_Reserve

 

Very interesting! All hail the "Land of the free"...:rolleyes:

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I thought "Illuminati" was plural, not singular. If the author can't even get the basics of grammar correct, I think I'll just ignore him or her.

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I thought "Illuminati" was plural, not singular. If the author can't even get the basics of grammar correct, I think I'll just ignore him or her.

 

If only his or her parents had been "greedy" and sent them off to be privately educated. :rolleyes:

 

I, of course, blame Thatcher. :P

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If only his or her parents had been "greedy" and sent them off to be privately educated. :rolleyes:

 

I, of course, blame Thatcher. :P

 

:)

 

Actually, I shouldn't be so mocking. The guy has a PhD. :rolleyes:

 

Kilpatrick's Law states that anyone who always states their qualifications at the end of their name needs to be viewed with suspicion. I don't walk round adding "BSc ACIM" at the end of my name because it would make me look like a fud!

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:)

 

Actually, I shouldn't be so mocking. The guy has a PhD. :rolleyes:

 

Kilpatrick's Law states that anyone who always states their qualifications at the end of their name needs to be viewed with suspicion. I don't walk round adding "BSc ACIM" at the end of my name because it would make me look like a fud!

 

Not as bad as MA (Hons) Pg.Dip ILS MCLIP

 

I've more after my name than my name actually consists of!

 

(not that I use them. Honest!:o)

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Not as bad as MA (Hons) Pg.Dip ILS MCLIP

 

I've more after my name than my name actually consists of!

 

(not that I use them. Honest!:o)

 

 

I knew it! Bloody arts graduates - all commies in disguise!! :):P

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