CostaJambo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Would be interested to know if other posters think Shabba has full autonomy over team/substitution selections or whether he is another manager who Vlad has hand picked due to his willingness to take on the Hearts job with the acceptance of a certain degree of chairman input into footballing matters. Personally I think that if Vlad was finally willing to leave footballing matters alone and concentrate only on the business side of the club he would have picked someone with more of a handle on Scottish football, therefore I conclude that Shabba is bought and paid for. If I was working in Uganda and was offered the opportuntity to work in Edinburgh under certain constraints I know which one I'd choose!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I think Csaba has full autonomy over team selection in all its guises. The Banks affair was turned into a fiasco by Vlad and his mouth. He doesn't have autonomy over transfers but then not many managers do these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Its either Shabba or Tam from the jolly judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Would be interested to know if other posters think Shabba has full autonomy over team/substitution selections or whether he is another manager who Vlad has hand picked due to his willingness to take on the Hearts job with the acceptance of a certain degree of chairman input into footballing matters. Personally I think that if Vlad was finally willing to leave footballing matters alone and concentrate only on the business side of the club he would have picked someone with more of a handle on Scottish football, therefore I conclude that Shabba is bought and paid for. If I was working in Uganda and was offered the opportuntity to work in Edinburgh under certain constraints I know which one I'd choose!!! If Romanov is influencing team selection why has Miko not started any league games? Wait, I know what you are going to say, Romanov instructed Csaba to start with Miko on the bench to look like there is no interference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Yes I think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 If he was, he would have answered with a simple 'yes' tonight. He said the team is selected following discussion with Korbotchjob and Romanov - that's a 'no' for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I think he probably is, but the formation isnt his. And this makes me wonder if there are further criteria. Look, you choose the players but 3 must be under 20. Or, you choose, but one midfielder needs to be a defender Quite a few things about last nights team and subs didnt make an awful lot of sense given the pre-match conference and the way the game panned out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 If Romanov is influencing team selection why has Miko not started any league games? Wait, I know what you are going to say, Romanov instructed Csaba to start with Miko on the bench to look like there is no interference! I accept your point but I still maintain that if he was going to give his manager full autonomy he would have raised his hopes a bit higher than the Uganda coach. Still maintain we should have gone for Paul Lambert (cue pelters!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 If he was, he would have answered with a simple 'yes' tonight. He said the team is selected following discussion with Korbotchjob and Romanov - that's a 'no' for me. Fair point. Simply argued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Last night Tam Ritchie had a wee bit of paper with the penalty takers on it. It was picked in consultaton with Mole and Miko in the dugout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Fair point. Simply argued I'm nothing, if not simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I don't believe he has full autonomy. I can't shake off the feeling that Romanov still has a few picks, and influences formation. I doubt Kello ~(who i've actually been quite impressed with), Karipidis in midfield or Eggert at RB where Csaba's picks. I may well be wrong, i really hope i am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I'm starting to not care about who picks the team anymore. Partly because we've been over this issue non-stop for the last three years and it is frustrating and also because of some of the nonsense that gets posted on here. I don't know who picks the team. I'm still clinging to the hope that it is Csaba. One thing that really irritates me is when people come on here with awful posts such as "They 2 Liths came off the bench in the Airdrie game so Romanov must be picking the team". It just doesn't make any sense. Surely all the Lithuanians would start if it was Romanov picking the team? If all he wants is Kaunas players starting then why have Kizys, Beniusis, Kancelskis, Ivaskevicius, Pilibaitis etc been sent back to Kaunas. Each of them having rarely even played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I don't believe he has full autonomy. I can't shake off the feeling that Romanov still has a few picks, and influences formation. I doubt Kello ~(who i've actually been quite impressed with), Karipidis in midfield or Eggert at RB where Csaba's picks. I may well be wrong, i really hope i am. Csaba talked about moving Eggert to right back, and trained with him there for a week - I'm pretty sure he had an input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Csaba talked about moving Eggert to right back, and trained with him there for a week - I'm pretty sure he had an input. That may be true. Like i said i was only going on my thoughts. Even if so i maintain that Kello and Kari in the midfield (a player who'd packed his bags ready to go home to Greece) are Romanov picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Tiresias Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 When Csaba first arrived at the club he proclaimed he was an advocate of attacking football using the 4-4-2 formation. We're still using last season's failed 4-5-1 which smacks of the owner influencing the formation. As someone else has already said, Csaba has stated that the team is picked by a selection committee. It's just a question of who is in that committee and taken that it's a given that the owner chooses the formation, then I'd be surprised if he's not involved in team selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 If he was, he would have answered with a simple 'yes' tonight. He said the team is selected following discussion with Korbotchjob and Romanov - that's a 'no' for me. Even if that is an exact quote, it simply isn't a "no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicker Man Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Even Stevie Wonder could recognise that we would be better playing 442 - especially at home - with our current squad. Surely Csaba could convince VR that playing the salt and pepper pots up-front with the half empty red wine glass in support is the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm not bothered who picks the team. I'm more concerned about the frailties & limitations of the current squad. Add to that the fact we play 4-5-1 which contradicts what Csaba seems to believe in ie 4-4-2. We've got much bigger issues than who picks the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulah Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Think Vlad chooses at least 3 players every game IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1874 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 if hes picking the team why put a centre back at dm when ruben and eggert re there and then put a dm at rb romanov still picking some off the team i thinks and then brings in another dm from kaunas we must have more defensive mids than any other team in the spl or do i sound paranoid lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I think Csaba picks 80% of the team. I don't think the formation is his choice. I think only 2 of the 5 signings so far have been his - Obua and Balogh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 As I posted in another thread a couple of days ago - all of the 'managers' since Rixxy have said that they pick the team ... http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Lasz...all.4428841.jp Hopefully he will have that right as he has shown positive signs of being a proper manager so far. However, there is a bit of a heavy burden of history on this issue - all these guys supposedly picked the team according to these reports: Malofeev http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...em/6113946.stm Valdas http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...an/5264234.stm Frail http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...an/7168067.stm Rixxy http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/233...-the-team.html Korobochka http://icscotland.icnetwork.co.uk/sp...0141-18712688/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm not bothered who picks the team. I'm more concerned about the frailties & limitations of the current squad. Add to that the fact we play 4-5-1 which contradicts what Csaba seems to believe in ie 4-4-2. We've got much bigger issues than who picks the team. I am bothered who picks the team and the frailties of the squad are magnified by this god forsaken 4-5-1 we play every f***** week. Csaba said he plays a 4-4-2, we continue to play 4-5-1. Csaba says players have a 100% chance of playing on the day of the game. I reckon most managers know a couple of days before what their team will be barring any last minute injuries. Fudbox is still meddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 He doesn't have autonomy over transfers but then not many managers do these days. I would say that the majority of managers have full control over transfers, they are told a budget and they will work within it. The manager should be in charge of all things football, one person buying and one person coaching does not work, surely the last 2 seasons would show that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Lala has an input but "The Puppet Master" fine tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Of course he doesn't have full autonomy. It's hard to believe that this question is still being asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Of course he doesn't have full autonomy. It's hard to believe that this question is still being asked. What annoys me is that the 'managers' might be told to feed the fans untruths about who picks the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 What annoys me is that the 'managers' might be told to feed the fans untruths about who picks the team. To be fair, the only manager I think who actually told a bare-faced lied was Valdas at Ibrox when he said that Craig Gordon was injured. The rest, including Csaba, have been - let's be charitable - evasive on this issue. I suppose it depends on where you draw the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Nope, and the noises coming from the shareholders meetings seem to confirm that VR and AK have their input. I'll be askig him myself next week when the ST holders get their chance to meet Csaba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 If he was, he would have answered with a simple 'yes' tonight. He said the team is selected following discussion with Korbotchjob and Romanov - that's a 'no' for me. Thats the bottom line. If he has full control, it's easy to say yes, I've got full control. If he doesn't, you get all sorts of round about ways of avoiding answering the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flimsy Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 As long as Vladimir Romanov owns the club he will always interfere in team selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 What annoys me is that the 'managers' might be told to feed the fans untruths about who picks the team. Why did Frail say that "it was my team" AFTER he had parted company by "mutual consent". It must be a powerful confidentiality clause that requires people to continue to lie after their employment has ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walton1983 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Would be interested to know if other posters think Shabba has full autonomy over team/substitution selections or whether he is another manager who Vlad has hand picked due to his willingness to take on the Hearts job with the acceptance of a certain degree of chairman input into footballing matters. Personally I think that if Vlad was finally willing to leave footballing matters alone and concentrate only on the business side of the club he would have picked someone with more of a handle on Scottish football, therefore I conclude that Shabba is bought and paid for. If I was working in Uganda and was offered the opportuntity to work in Edinburgh under certain constraints I know which one I'd choose!!! Sort of, but Vlad will always interfere. Don't know why this always gets discussed. Vlad ain't going to change the habits of a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walton1983 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm not bothered who picks the team. I'm more concerned about the frailties & limitations of the current squad. Add to that the fact we play 4-5-1 which contradicts what Csaba seems to believe in ie 4-4-2. We've got much bigger issues than who picks the team. You obviously have no clue on how a football club should be run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Why did Frail say that "it was my team" AFTER he had parted company by "mutual consent". It must be a powerful confidentiality clause that requires people to continue to lie after their employment has ended. I don't know. Why did Frail say that? Why did any of the 'managers' say that they picked the team? Did you think that Basso deserved to be dropped after his fantastic display away at Kilmarnock? That Frail picked Goncalves rather than Wallace? That Glen on his own up front was solely Frail's decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Does Csaba have full control over team selection? Absolutely not. Anyone that believes otherwise is kidding themselves. On Wednesday, Csaba says Ruben will play. Ruben doesn't play. During the game, we are cyring out for another striker to be brought on, and to change to 4-4-2. Instead, that useless clown Audrey comes on, when it should have been Nade. There is, and always will be, interferance in team selection/subs/tactics from the lunatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I don't know. Why did Frail say that? Why did any of the 'managers' say that they picked the team? Did you think that Basso deserved to be dropped after his fantastic display away at Kilmarnock? That Frail picked Goncalves rather than Wallace? That Glen on his own up front was solely Frail's decision? I would have played Goncalves before Wallace every time ! I don't think Csaba has full control over team selection but he is very enthusiastic and persuasive and I'm sure he will get his way more often than not. As for tactics, the difference from last season is like night and day so these are all Csaba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 "I think 4-4-2 must be our basic system. We have played 4-2-3-1, but I have told the team they must know how to play two or three different tactical systems. We have the players to play these systems and I have tried 4-4-2 in a line, 4-4-2 in a diamond and some others. I want the team to be adaptable." Not sure how what we are playing falls into Csaba's preference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I would have played Goncalves before Wallace every time ! I don't think Csaba has full control over team selection but he is very enthusiastic and persuasive and I'm sure he will get his way more often than not. As for tactics, the difference from last season is like night and day so these are all Csaba Maybe but if I remember rightly there were interviews with Frail that week saying that Lee Wallace now had the jersey. And comments on here about how Goncalves needed to be put in the shop window. Which got him the loan move of course and perhaps the money for the club eventually. But we were going for top six at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboy81 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm beyond arguing with people about this. Romanov DOES interfere in team selection. If people want to pretend like he doesn't then fine. The point is that even with some level of meddling he has still improved things. I think where he can take us will be limited though as he doesn't have full control over things that other managers in the league do. I do wonder how much longer he'll be flavour of the month with the fans as more and more Romanovisms creep into the team selection as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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