Rawrrrrrrr Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Is there anyone out there who still wishes to contend this accident waiting to happen should be kept on or is better than neilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Ingram Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I still say we should re-sign Maybury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Is there anyone out there who still wishes to contend this accident waiting to happen should be kept on or is better than neilson? I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 why exactly? He's slow, he gets beaten too easily, he looks far too relaxed, he isnt a particularly good tackler and generally looks like an accident waiting to happen. Hes marginally better at passing than neilson which wouldnt be difficult but I would stick with the better defender at RB than some average first division player simply because hes homegrown young and known to a few of the fans who wont open their eyes to the fact he isnt good enough. Btw is he known to all fans, every time I see him everyone keeps talking about "jase" like hes there best pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Thomson's like a younger crapper version of Robbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I still think we "miss" Neilson. Long throw-ins and he has experience. Still not a heck of a lot better than Thomson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Its easy to see why some posters aren't liked on here. I'll save my criticism for our players if or when they deserve it thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 We have been conceding a lot more goals per game in the last 8 or so league games since Thomson came in for Neilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Ingram Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Is there an issue with him being "known to fans"?!! Who gives a toss?! You cant have it both ways... disliking "faceless Lithuanians" and also a homegrown boy who watches Hearts when he is not playing and came through the youth system?! Odd attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 We have been conceding a lot more goals per game in the last 8 or so league games since Thomson came in for Neilson. How many of them have come as a direct result of somthing Thomson has done / not done? i.e - how many has he been to blame for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 why exactly? He's slow, he gets beaten too easily, he looks far too relaxed, he isnt a particularly good tackler and generally looks like an accident waiting to happen. Hes marginally better at passing than neilson which wouldnt be difficult but I would stick with the better defender at RB than some average first division player simply because hes homegrown young and known to a few of the fans who wont open their eyes to the fact he isnt good enough. Btw is he known to all fans, every time I see him everyone keeps talking about "jase" like hes there best pal He is better than Neilson was at the same age as him. I think Thomson is a good prospect who is willing to learn. Also Csaba can control him from the sidelines and make sure he plays his part in the footballing philosophy that Csaba wants. I think if Neilson tried to play passes he would pass to the opposition and so would revert to his usual punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 How many of them have come as a direct result of somthing Thomson has done / not done? i.e - how many has he been to blame for? I don't have that statistic to hand I think that Thomson on an individual basis has been okay, but I think we will do better when Neilson returns. Our defence has been statistically poorer since Thomson replaced Neilson. Lots of other moving parts of course, but that is just one aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 Your opinion but tbh I think the injuries he has had has ruined any chance of him being a top player anytime soon. Neilson was kept out for far longer by better players and as I was very young then I couldnt comment on his ability at Thomson's age but for me at the moment Neilson is a lot better and the defence is better with neilson as a whole I'd be quite happy if we released Thomson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Your opinion but tbh I think the injuries he has had has ruined any chance of him being a top player anytime soon. Neilson was kept out for far longer by better players and as I was very young then I couldnt comment on his ability at Thomson's age but for me at the moment Neilson is a lot better and the defence is better with neilson as a whole I'd be quite happy if we released Thomson He has started 7 times for Heart of Midlothian. Leave him alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 prancer is there actually anybody in the current set up you rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 a few players but overall I think we are as every bit as pish as we where last season and will soon revert back to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 a few players but overall I think we are as every bit as pish as we where last season and will soon revert back to that. And nothing would give you greater pleasure if that came to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 why exactly? He's slow, he gets beaten too easily, he looks far too relaxed, he isnt a particularly good tackler and generally looks like an accident waiting to happen. Hes marginally better at passing than neilson which wouldnt be difficult but I would stick with the better defender at RB than some average first division player simply because hes homegrown young and known to a few of the fans who wont open their eyes to the fact he isnt good enough. Btw is he known to all fans, every time I see him everyone keeps talking about "jase" like hes there best pal And what would you know about "best pals" i don't believe you have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 a few players but overall I think we are as every bit as pish as we where last season and will soon revert back to that. If we are the same now as we were before - how can we "revert back"??? The fact we could revert back suggests we arent as pish as we were before. Thus making your point entirely invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Crane Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Tomorrow, Prancer will state why Michael Stewart has had a flukey start to the season and takes us back to the past on how he never rated that John Colquhoun. Stay tuned folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 We have been conceding a lot more goals per game in the last 8 or so league games since Thomson came in for Neilson. Exactly the point I was going to make. The same point could also be made over on the left, (although I know he's gone) we conceded a lot less goals with Goncalves in the team than Wallace. Unfortunately I'd rate Thomson as our third choice right back at best (behind Neilson and Karipidis), in fact I'd rather see Brown getting a chance on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeramiah Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Is there anyone out there who still wishes to contend this accident waiting to happen should be kept on or is better than neilson? Both Thomson AND Neilson are substandard garbage. Especially Neilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Mayhem Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I think he's been left exposed by Kingstons lack of desire to track back, which as a poser has mentioned, is tough for a young guy with under 10 appearances under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 He just seems to me like he is very lightweight and nervous. Not ready for the 'big time' He is vastly improving week in week out tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffundo Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I thought he had a fine game on saturday. He is a young player and would do well to have decent partner infront of him. I think you are being a bit harsh on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Is there anyone out there who still wishes to contend this accident waiting to happen should be kept on or is better than neilson? ???? He's just had his best game to date for Hearts. Put in a few very good crosses. Failed to put in one or two as well admittedly. Keen to get forward on Saturday and isn't too rash in the tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupid Sexy Flanders Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Is there an issue with him being "known to fans"?!! Who gives a toss?! You cant have it both ways... disliking "faceless Lithuanians" and also a homegrown boy who watches Hearts when he is not playing and came through the youth system?! Odd attitude. He just hates everything and everybody who has anything to do with HMFC. Including me and you probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Long throws are sh*te. Anyone who thinks we should see a return of those is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Both as s***e as each other. You would hope Thompson has the capacity to improve considering his age though. But as we have been saying for most of the last ten years - we need a new right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatore's Tash Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 On Kickback you numpties want to always dig in to someone!! What is it all about?? Jamie Mole for example was seen as being a dud. Can you argue with his start to the season. Leave Thomson alone, and give him a break. He has played very well in the last two games in my view and I really don't know how you can even say some of the stuff you do. I would bet you my last fiver that he is one of the fastest out of the starting XI so shut up with the slow talk. Ask Driver, Berra, Mole, John McGlynn, Steven Frail, John Robertson and Csaba Laszlo about him and keep of his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 he was at fault for their equalizer , he should have won the header that the St Mirren player headed back across goal but seemed keen to get forward , still a young lad so will reserve judgment untill he gets a lot more games under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbyshambles Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 i don't think he has the confidence yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo_Jambo Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 We have no money for more players. We agree that Robbie is perhaps not good enough if we want to go forward. So given that we can't buy a new right back, Karipidas is playing well in a solid midfield and Neilson is injured/getting old, is it perhaps not sensible if not down right intelligent (somethinf that has been lacking at Tynie) to try to bring through a youngster of our own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 i think he is growing into the game. i wasn't overly impressed with him at the end of last season, but to be honest, there wasn't much last season to get excited over anyway! i'm not sure he ought to be an immediate starter, but he is ready to make first team appearances, and will get better as time goes on. he'll find his confidence. the main problem i think is there is no elvis, or similar, to help guide these guys. i'm not sure its such a good idea to be bumping our gums about a young lad, coming through though, and slagging them off. just seems like a pointless exercise to me. give the lad a chance. while he is in the the first time, just remember his age and experience. give him a break for now at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondejamtart Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 What you've just said makes a lot of sense, Beverley - it's all very well bringing in younger players (and I've gone on record before as being in favour of giving some of the younger lads a chance to prove themselves) but at the same time, you need to have that balance of older, mature, more experienced players to help the younger ones. There's nothing like learning your craft from someone who has been there and done it all before you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Thomson is yad. There's my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Saturday is the one and only time I've seen him. Can't really comment on any defensive frailties as he was never called on defensively on Saturday. Contrary wise , I don't think he'll see more of the ball in any game than he did on Saturday but unfortunately his crossing was woeful. He's got a long , long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the North Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I think the bottom line is we could do with two new full backs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 What you've just said makes a lot of sense, Beverley - it's all very well bringing in younger players (and I've gone on record before as being in favour of giving some of the younger lads a chance to prove themselves) but at the same time, you need to have that balance of older, mature, more experienced players to help the younger ones. There's nothing like learning your craft from someone who has been there and done it all before you. absolutely blondie. the best thing we can do, in my opinion, is to bring the younger players into the team, when its safe to do so... not like throwing glen on for a spell when we're 4-0 down at home to dundee united, and ensure we have the finest coaches we can find/afford. we haven't got the experienced guys like hartley & pressley to bring these guys on during games, so we have to do the best we can for them, and that includes us as fans, not getting on their back every time they make a mistake, as difficult as that may be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droid Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Is there anyone out there who still wishes to contend this accident waiting to happen should be kept on or is better than neilson? and are you ever going to post a positive thread on kickback? as someone has already said strange behaviour for a supposed hearts supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I would much rather have Neilson at right back than Thomson. Thomson has performed adequately so far but more would be required for him to keep his place when a fit Neilson is around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I would much rather have Neilson at right back than Thomson.Thomson has performed adequately so far but more would be required for him to keep his place when a fit Neilson is around. I agree,although I honestly never thought I'd see the day that I was hoping to have Neilson in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Neilson is better than Thomson but they are both guff. Definitely need to look at getting someone in to replace both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 In the long term the bottom line is that Thomson doesnt YET look like he is going to be the answer to the Neilson problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 We have been conceding a lot more goals per game in the last 8 or so league games since Thomson came in for Neilson. Well he isn't alone in my opinion, I think our back 4 stinks, and if we had the opportunity I would replace them all! I never thought I would wish for Robbies return but he is at least better than Thomson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootzilla Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I think Thomson can pass better than Robbie, cross better than Robbie and can only get better with experience. If there's someone else that comes in that's better great, but Thomson before Neilson please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I'm a Robbie fan and think he will regain his place when fit. But Thomson has improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 a few players but overall I think we are as every bit as pish as we where last season and will soon revert back to that. I am led to believe by my doctor that the NHS have decided that rather than referring people who suffer from depression to a specialist clinic they have actually contacted the admin team on here and are planning to get patients to log on and read your posts. The doctors know these people will then realise they are not as depressed as they thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I think the bottom line is we could do with two new full backs Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I don't mind Thomson but I'd rather have Neilson back, he is more reliable than Thomson, I feel when I'm watching him play that he is quite lightweight for a defender, I'd also have to question his defensive capabilities, he does get caught out at times. He is better at going forward than Robbie but his first job should be to defend. And everyone is talking about how Robbie always passes the ball into row Z, now we play the ball on the deck so surely that arguement is now non-existint . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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