pupstersajambo Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I've just watched the interview with Hugh Dallas outside Riccarton today and must say was very impressed. I've thought for long enough that we now live in a culture when it's always someone else that's at fault, never ourselves. American ideology which we've adopted I reckon. Dallas makes mention of this blame culture and he's spot on. As a parent of a P7 footballer, U13's, I've had to referee few matches and it's not an easy job. No matter how sure you are of a decision there will always be one side that says you're wrong and one that agrees with you, they can't both be right. It's not only football where this blame culture applies to, it's society in general and maybe if we were more respectful of each other then we wouldn't be in the position we are now? Now don't bother coming back with scenarios where one person got booked and another person didn't, it doesn't prove anything and doesn't go any way to resolving anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Cheers Hugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 The Celtic fans will agree with Charlie Richmond RE Sunday. Doesn't mean he was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pupstersajambo Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 Cheers Hugh. RED CARD YOU'RE OFF - DISSENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecosse Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I've just watched the interview with Hugh Dallas outside Riccarton today and must say was very impressed. I've thought for long enough that we now live in a culture when it's always someone else that's at fault, never ourselves. American ideology which we've adopted I reckon. Dallas makes mention of this blame culture and he's spot on. As a parent of a P7 footballer, U13's, I've had to referee few matches and it's not an easy job. No matter how sure you are of a decision there will always be one side that says you're wrong and one that agrees with you, they can't both be right. It's not only football where this blame culture applies to, it's society in general and maybe if we were more respectful of each other then we wouldn't be in the position we are now? Now don't bother coming back with scenarios where one person got booked and another person didn't, it doesn't prove anything and doesn't go any way to resolving anything. that's all well and good,everyone makes mistakes.referee`s are human and so are supporters.but its not errors that people are concerned at,its the not admitting of clear mistakes and the obvious denying of clear penalties/fouls or even giving in the other direction where the refs have a clear view and that they tend to go in favour of 2 clubs in particular in the majority of the time. if my employee is bad at his job he`d be shown the door or given an easier job as soon as its noticed,but refs seem to be guarranteed their jobs till the end of the season when their points are then looked at.by then they could in theory have caused a club/clubs untold damage in financial terms that they could never get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hugh Dallas is a ****** of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pupstersajambo Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hugh Dallas is a ****** of the highest order. Ah, so close.... However, having failed to finish the statement with the word FACT, you lose!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Ah, so close.... However, having failed to finish the statement with the word FACT, you lose!! I put it in my signature to save me time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Referees represent the blame culture quite well. It was never them and they only did what the linesmen told them to. Kenny Clark's column in the Sun shows us how much of refereeing is about staying out of trouble as opposed to getting decisions correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Whilst this may be right for some decisions which are simple mistakes, for most of the decisions being complained about are not simple mistakes. In these cases the referees are to blame because they are either bottlers or cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I've just watched the interview with Hugh Dallas outside Riccarton today and must say was very impressed. I've thought for long enough that we now live in a culture when it's always someone else that's at fault, never ourselves. American ideology which we've adopted I reckon. Dallas makes mention of this blame culture and he's spot on. As a parent of a P7 footballer, U13's, I've had to referee few matches and it's not an easy job. No matter how sure you are of a decision there will always be one side that says you're wrong and one that agrees with you, they can't both be right. It's not only football where this blame culture applies to, it's society in general and maybe if we were more respectful of each other then we wouldn't be in the position we are now? Now don't bother coming back with scenarios where one person got booked and another person didn't, it doesn't prove anything and doesn't go any way to resolving anything. I bet your mistakes are not always in favour of the same two teams though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrH Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Referees represent the blame culture quite well. It was never them and they only did what the linesmen told them to. Kenny Clark's column in the Sun shows us how much of refereeing is about staying out of trouble as opposed to getting decisions correct. Spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibble Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I've just watched the interview with Hugh Dallas outside Riccarton today and must say was very impressed. I've thought for long enough that we now live in a culture when it's always someone else that's at fault, never ourselves. American ideology which we've adopted I reckon. Dallas makes mention of this blame culture and he's spot on. As a parent of a P7 footballer, U13's, I've had to referee few matches and it's not an easy job. No matter how sure you are of a decision there will always be one side that says you're wrong and one that agrees with you, they can't both be right. It's not only football where this blame culture applies to, it's society in general and maybe if we were more respectful of each other then we wouldn't be in the position we are now? Now don't bother coming back with scenarios where one person got booked and another person didn't, it doesn't prove anything and doesn't go any way to resolving anything. It's people like you who make my life so miserable. GTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pupstersajambo Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 It's people like you who make my life so miserable. GTF. A touch tetchy for this time in the morning, one too many last night? Or are you actually in Melbourne? If so, started a bit early haven't you. Save the insults, watch the video on Hearts TV, come back with grown up response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxburn Jambo Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I've just watched the interview with Hugh Dallas outside Riccarton today and must say was very impressed. I've thought for long enough that we now live in a culture when it's always someone else that's at fault, never ourselves. American ideology which we've adopted I reckon. Dallas makes mention of this blame culture and he's spot on. As a parent of a P7 footballer, U13's, I've had to referee few matches and it's not an easy job. No matter how sure you are of a decision there will always be one side that says you're wrong and one that agrees with you, they can't both be right. It's not only football where this blame culture applies to, it's society in general and maybe if we were more respectful of each other then we wouldn't be in the position we are now? Now don't bother coming back with scenarios where one person got booked and another person didn't, it doesn't prove anything and doesn't go any way to resolving anything. It's all about levels of skill, when you ref kids you don't get paid 800 quid so you are doing the best you can. I would expect the ref at a Sunday Amateur game to ref at the level he is but to many top grade refs are failing to keep to the standards they should be at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I've just watched the interview with Hugh Dallas outside Riccarton today and must say was very impressed. I've thought for long enough that we now live in a culture when it's always someone else that's at fault, never ourselves. American ideology which we've adopted I reckon. Dallas makes mention of this blame culture and he's spot on. As a parent of a P7 footballer, U13's, I've had to referee few matches and it's not an easy job. No matter how sure you are of a decision there will always be one side that says you're wrong and one that agrees with you, they can't both be right. It's not only football where this blame culture applies to, it's society in general and maybe if we were more respectful of each other then we wouldn't be in the position we are now? Now don't bother coming back with scenarios where one person got booked and another person didn't, it doesn't prove anything and doesn't go any way to resolving anything. Are you trying to bully people into accepting your views as correct? Did Dallas say why the OF nearly always get weegie refs in key games? Dallas can spout all the *****e he wants but until we have totally neutral refs, I'll never believe anything he. or you, say on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynie b Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 ALL Referee's are Puppets to the GFA, They inturn are Under the Rule of the Bigot Brothers...The only mistakes that happen, Happen in FAVOUR of the S C U M from the weeg, Who makes the MISTAKES??? The Cheating P**** in Black, who are PAID by the S C U M from the Weeg... It's been this way for over 100 years and will continue to do so until FIFA/UEFA get involved the way they did in Italy/Germany etc... Why is it possible for these countries to have "Bent" Referee's BUT, NO WAY would that happen here in Scotland, It's all just Honest Human Error!! Mabaws!! Rant Over...For Now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 A touch tetchy for this time in the morning, one too many last night? Or are you actually in Melbourne? If so, started a bit early haven't you.Save the insults, watch the video on Hearts TV, come back with grown up response. Melbourne is currently 9 hours ahead! Do the math! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 This blame culture thing is all Vlads fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Always had respect for Dallas until a certain incident involving him and Mr Davis. They knew exactly what they were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I bet your mistakes are not always in favour of the same two teams though. And there's the rub. The "mistakes" somehow always seem to benefit two Glasgow teams and imo the only evening out over the season is for the ugly sisters to have the same number of beneficial decisions. GFA/OF GTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Don't really care what Dallas has to say. The decissions speak for themselves and it aint no coincidence that the ugly sisters get away with murder!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxburn Jambo Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 The real problem is that the refs answer to no one for anything they do wrong a refs committee run by McVicar assisted by Dallas, and a Football Association run from behind the scenes by two clubs for their own benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 This blame culture thing is all Vlads fault. Don't you believe it - the "blame culture" as you put it has been here for years. Vlad has only really voiced what many all over Scotland have actually been thinking and saying privately for years. Bent refereeing that favours the old firm is nothing new in the 1960's we had Davidson and Willie Syme who consistently gave inexplicable decisions the way of the old firm. Things haven't got any better - it's just that now with modern technology the cheating is there for all to see, it just makes the bias is all the more obvious. I would love to see it stop, and despite Hugh Dallas trying to win over "hearts & minds" it would take a monumental change in the mid set of numerous people before it does. The Old Firm have too much to lose by having a level playing field, and although after all the who-ha over the last two weeks, I'm pretty sure that things will calm down for a while. Have no doubt the bias will re-appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmaroon Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Things ain't right, so let's blame .... a 'blame culture'. Fantastic! Utter nonsense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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