jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I like a gamble but give these nasty little numbers a wide berth for what seems obvious reasons, but not to all sadly Met a guy fae work (No a bad lad but a Tim , so he only got a snitch of sympathy)He was telling me he had just lost lost nearly 2k on the Roulette Bandit in no time These Machines ain't even random, regular players can tell you what numbers are coming up seconds after the spin but they are seriously addictive and cause untold misery I know no one forces anybody to play them but surely they need regulated Bookies opened for the first time ever on Good Friday this year when no racing was on i wonder why eh:dribble: Anyway for those who have never played them best to keep it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinheaven Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 agreed i feel sick when i lose a fiver ,never mind 2k ah well at least he's ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toggie88 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 They are random. You can tell what number it will land on as soon as it's been spun because each number it's on individual route that the ball takes to get there. The number is still random. They are indeed evil. I normally go with ?20, if I lose that I just walk straight away. I lose ?20 now and again, and it doesn't seem like too much. Then every wee while you'll get a massive win of the ?20 and you'll be on top of the world. Haven't touched them in a good few weeks but, it's all about online horses now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 They are random. You can tell what number it will land on as soon as it's been spun because each number it's on individual route that the ball takes to get there. The number is still random. They are indeed evil. I normally go with ?20, if I lose that I just walk straight away. I lose ?20 now and again, and it doesn't seem like too much. Then every wee while you'll get a massive win of the ?20 and you'll be on top of the world. Haven't touched them in a good few weeks but, it's all about online horses now. they aren't random. The have a fixed percentage payout, which is required by law, and as such cannot be fully random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumbles1874 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 they re random but the are a **** i know a guy who wins mot of the time best time to play them is about 5pm when the asian gents have left to open here restraunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 they aren't random. The have a fixed percentage payout, which is required by law, and as such cannot be fully random. actually that's only half true. Some machines are fixed-odds rather than percentage based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Dont really know the logistics of the Random stuff but what i do know it aint the same as the casino The bandit determines your payout, not luck or chance, basically the chip in the back has final say. At least in a casino you see the ball spinning legitamately after being released, no in the bookies and the bandits they have You try and suggest where the ball will finish seconds after it has been spun in a casino, no chance, in the bookies , no offers Horror stories about them just sad that many get roped in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The roulette machines' results are determined at random by a central server to which they're all linked up, and have no 'percentage payout' - I think some people confuse that with bandits/fruit machines, which do operate with a perentage payout/profit percentage. FACT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I like a wee punt on them now and again but think I'll just leave them from now on. Don't want to get hooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The roulette machines' results are determined at random by a central server to which they're all linked up, and have no 'percentage payout' - I think some people confuse that with bandits/fruit machines, which do operate with a perentage payout/profit percentage. FACT!! END OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I might go down for a shot now actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I might go down for a shot now actually I end up playing them in between races, addictive wee feckers. Won ?100 quid on Pyramids of Giza a few weeks back, but have put in far more than I've won over the year or so. Wish they weren't allowed in the bookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Throwback Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I end up playing them in between races, addictive wee feckers. Won ?100 quid on Pyramids of Giza a few weeks back, but have put in far more than I've won over the year or so. Wish they weren't allowed in the bookies. You like you're gambling, don't you!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The roulette machines' results are determined at random by a central server to which they're all linked up, and have no 'percentage payout' - I think some people confuse that with bandits/fruit machines, which do operate with a perentage payout/profit percentage. FACT!! apologies for my misinformation. I was under the impression that they were governed by the same rules as other gaming machines. you are indeed correct, the roulette machines in bookies are fixed odds and not based on a percentage payout. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The fact is, these machines are deisgned to make money. It never ceases to amaze me when people are putiing hundreds of pounds into these bandits in the bookies. The roulette is obviously different from normal Casino Roulette, because you're atleast in control to a certain degree in real life, and it is luck. These things will shaft people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 apologies for my misinformation. I was under the impression that they were governed by the same rules as other gaming machines. you are indeed correct, the roulette machines in bookies are fixed odds and not based on a percentage payout. FACT Not for the first time, and it sure as hell won't be the last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The fact is, these machines are deisgned to make money. It never ceases to amaze me when people are putiing hundreds of pounds into these bandits in the bookies. The roulette is obviously different from normal Casino Roulette, because you're atleast in control to a certain degree in real life, and it is luck. These things will shaft people. Yet to see one for use in betting shops that's designed to lose money!! Thing is, if I was to stand in a bookies and lose a right few quid on one of those machines, the only person shafting me would be myself. Nobody holding a gun to my head. The folk who genuinely think that these machines are 'bent' are more than a wee bit paranoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Yet to see one for use in betting shops that's designed to lose money!!Thing is, if I was to stand in a bookies and lose a right few quid on one of those machines, the only person shafting me would be myself. Nobody holding a gun to my head. The folk who genuinely think that these machines are 'bent' are more than a wee bit paranoid. Dont think the machines are bent just have a low payout which they determine At least (lesser of two evils IMO) in a Casino, Luck, Fate, Chance, come into play and could/can bail you out The Bandit just says i'm having that stake Re Nout compulsory about playing them but very addictive it seems and many more will come a cropper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfurdaley Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 In the long run, you cannot beat Roulette either in a casino or on a FOBT. The '0' or '00' gives the casino or machine an edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 In the long run, you cannot beat Roulette either in a casino or on a FOBT. The '0' or '00' gives the casino or machine an edge. 100% true. Mug's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 You like you're gambling, don't you!? Actually yes I do. I have so much excess cash that I enjoy a flutter now and again, but limit the amount I spend. Oh and for the record, its your, not you're. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 It's patently obvious the odds are stacked against you when gambling Though you like to think with a wee bit of luck you might beat the odds on the odd occasion It's just sickening to see that people can lose so much on a machine that takes the 'chance' element away for you But true gambling is a mugs game and a very unfair one:mad: Who said lifes fair eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Who said lifes fair eh At least you're not a filthy Leither or a follower of ra sellik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi_1983 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Only played it once, when I stuck in a quid I had in my pocket, to see how long I could double up on choosing black or red. The machine wouldn't let me only bet a quid on that, so I had to pick a number. It came up, so I walked off with a nice little profit and have never played it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Throwback Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Actually yes I do. I have so much excess cash that I enjoy a flutter now and again, but limit the amount I spend. Oh and for the record, its your, not you're. Pretty poor to try and pick up on grammar, rare for me to slip up. Could that excess cash not be spent on your family (or be put to better use?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acey Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The roulette is obviously different from normal Casino Roulette, because you're atleast in control to a certain degree in real life, and it is luck. These things will shaft people. What are you on about? "Real" casino roulette = you need luck. Random number generator = you need luck. It's sad that the "it's fixed!!!!!!!" brigade can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that single-zero roulette has a house edge of 2.70%. Whether it's "real" or virtual, that house edge will take your money in the long-run. No fix required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Pretty poor to try and pick up on grammar, rare for me to slip up. Could that excess cash not be spent on your family (or be put to better use?) Probably, but we go on 3 hols a year, my kids want for nothing and I enjoy a flutter. Your post was wanting a response so I gave it. Sorry about the grammar comment, as I shouldn't have done that, and find people who do it rather annoying. Anyway, I'm off to the bookie's, see you's all later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Throwback Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Probably, but we go on 3 hols a year, my kids want for nothing and I enjoy a flutter. Your post was wanting a response so I gave it. Sorry about the grammar comment, as I shouldn't have done that, and find people who do it rather annoying. Anyway, I'm off to the bookie's, see you's all later. Fair play regarding the grammar! How's the wife after your comments regarding your last holiday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 At least you're not a filthy Leither or a follower of ra sellik. Or a Weeg and Grandad at 30 Crap gambler all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Fair play regarding the grammar! How's the wife after your comments regarding your last holiday? Not happy, but it was only one night. I'm assuming you're talking about the night I went out when Spain won the Euro's. We made up by the end of the holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 What are you on about? "Real" casino roulette = you need luck. Random number generator = you need luck. It's sad that the "it's fixed!!!!!!!" brigade can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that single-zero roulette has a house edge of 2.70%. Whether it's "real" or virtual, that house edge will take your money in the long-run. No fix required. My point was, that these machines are designed to make money.. that's why i wouldn't gamble on them. It's a bloody computer afterall. Whereas, in a Casino, atleast there can be no fixing involved either way. You're seeing it infront of your eyes, 2 humans. I am not part of the " It's Fixed! " Brigade, as you put it, but i know that these machines are made to make money, and so must be programmed to that end. You're probably upset about the Qots not scoring today though, so i'll forgive you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 It's patently obvious the odds are stacked against you when gambling Though you like to think with a wee bit of luck you might beat the odds on the odd occasion It's just sickening to see that people can lose so much on a machine that takes the 'chance' element away for you But true gambling is a mugs game and a very unfair one:mad: Who said lifes fair eh The element of 'chance' is ever present in all forms of gambling though, it wouldn't be gambling otherwise. Not trying to be picky jackjambo, but in what way is gambling 'unfair'? There are times (not with roulette obviously) when you can get the odds in your favour, and that's the time to bet. And no-one's being forced to gamble, after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 What are you on about? "Real" casino roulette = you need luck. Random number generator = you need luck. It's sad that the "it's fixed!!!!!!!" brigade can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that single-zero roulette has a house edge of 2.70%. Whether it's "real" or virtual, that house edge will take your money in the long-run. No fix required. The most sensible and accurate post on this thread so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Throwback Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Not happy, but it was only one night. I'm assuming you're talking about the night I went out when Spain won the Euro's. We made up by the end of the holiday. So when you admitted it to your wife, was she hapy that it was only the one night? If you're checking which night, does that mean there was more than one? http://www.clipp.ro/m-people-one-night-in-heaven-YouTube-clipp.ro-9aec9074b.html Worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 My point was, that these machines are designed to make money.. that's why i wouldn't gamble on them. It's a bloody computer afterall. Whereas, in a Casino, atleast there can be no fixing involved either way. You're seeing it infront of your eyes, 2 humans. I am not part of the " It's Fixed! " Brigade, as you put it, but i know that these machines are made to make money, and so must be programmed to that end. You're probably upset about the Qots not scoring today though, so i'll forgive you. No need to, as it already has a percentage edge - it pays you out at odds of 35/1 on a 36/1 shot, so will always win in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 The element of 'chance' is ever present in all forms of gambling though, it wouldn't be gambling otherwise.Not trying to be picky jackjambo, but in what way is gambling 'unfair'? There are times (not with roulette obviously) when you can get the odds in your favour, and that's the time to bet. And no-one's being forced to gamble, after all! Gambling ain't unfair in the sense 'it's up to, you takes your chance' wouldnt deny as much.But what makes it a whole lot more difficult for me to stomach is when the big guns take advantage in a way that does make it and allows it to become seriously unfair it also encourages people to punt on a system that doesn't give them a hope in H ell.Even when you lose on the casino;) you aint got no 'Chip' deciding what number comes up as you do with the bandit, that was my complaint.Gambled long enough to realise the pro's and cons.The odds are always against you fair enough but at least a spin of the wheel at a casino is exactly that, a spin on a bandit means he haw.Not saying the casino is the answer or gamblings fair but in comparison to the Bandit in bookies the Casino offers a fairer bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Gambling ain't unfair in the sense 'it's up to, you takes your chance' wouldnt deny as much.But what makes it a whole lot more difficult for me to stomach is when the big guns take advantage in a way that does make it and allows it to become seriously unfair it also encourages people to punt on a system that doesn't give them a hope in H ell.Even when you lose on the casino;) you aint got no 'Chip' deciding what number comes up as you do with the bandit, that was my complaint.Gambled long enough to realise the pro's and cons.The odds are always against you fair enough but at least a spin of the wheel at a casino is exactly that, a spin on a bandit means he haw.Not saying the casino is the answer or gamblings fair but in comparison to the Bandit in bookies the Casino offers a fairer bet. When you mention the 'big guns' taking advantage, do you mean in terms of changing odds etc? That'd happen with any bookie, not just the bigger chains, so surely that doesn't make it 'seriously unfair'? And in what way do they encourage people to 'punt on a sytem that doesn't give them a hope in hell'? As for your last sentence, the casino and the roulette machines have exactly the same edge percentage-wise, so how can one be less fair than the other? P.S. I'm not out to get you on this one, honest!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 When you mention the 'big guns' taking advantage, do you mean in terms of changing odds etc? That'd happen with any bookie, not just the bigger chains, so surely that doesn't make it 'seriously unfair'?And in what way do they encourage people to 'punt on a sytem that doesn't give them a hope in hell'? As for your last sentence, the casino and the roulette machines have exactly the same edge percentage-wise, so how can one be less fair than the other? P.S. I'm not out to get you on this one, honest!! lol. no probs OK what i should have maybe initially posted was along the lines of this If you fancy a wee gamble on the roulette then I'd suggest the Casino.Because of what i've heard and witnessed Re the Roulette machines in the Bookies it would be the lesser of two evils as a chip decides your fate in the bookies as opposed to the spinning of the ball in a Casino making me think I'd prefer the latter as at least the ball cant stop when told so by a computer. I cant guarantee you would or will win on either and no one forces you into these places but if you are serious stick with the Casino:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acey Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 My point was, that these machines are designed to make money.. that's why i wouldn't gamble on them. It's a bloody computer afterall. Whereas, in a Casino, atleast there can be no fixing involved either way. You're seeing it infront of your eyes, 2 humans. I am not part of the " It's Fixed! " Brigade, as you put it, but i know that these machines are made to make money, and so must be programmed to that end. You're probably upset about the Qots not scoring today though, so i'll forgive you. You're joking, Tommi. Casinos exist to make money too, remember; but more importantly, it is the game itself that exists to make money. Give me one rational reason why a bookie would need to fix a roulette machine in their favour (given the house edge which you cannot beat in the long run), and I'll concede. They don't need to fix them, so they don't. p.s. I'm disappointed that Queens didn't pick up the win, but happy that my "QoS vs Dunfermline" match bet is off to a flier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 As for your last sentence, the casino and the roulette machines have exactly the same edge percentage-wise, so how can one be less fair than the other? ******** What are these %'s and where do you get them from The roulette table allows the ball to spin until it stops A machines makes sure the ball stops when it is told I know what i prefer Look, neither are ideal but if lady luck is going to shine I'd rather it be on a table than a machine The casino offers you odds and says on you go A bandit say thanks anytime it wants How can they be the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Give me one rational reason why a bookie would need to fix a roulette machine in their favour (given the house edge which you cannot beat in the long run), and I'll concede. They don't need to fix them, so they don't. Correct ___________ The bandit can no doubt can adapt to pattern especially a winning one and make sure that no matter what numbers you pick next time round they aint coming up The casino odds are always the same I know what one i'll go for:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 lol. no probs OK what i should have maybe initially posted was along the lines of this If you fancy a wee gamble on the roulette then I'd suggest the Casino.Because of what i've heard and witnessed Re the Roulette machines in the Bookies it would be the lesser of two evils as a chip decides your fate in the bookies as opposed to the spinning of the ball in a Casino making me think I'd prefer the latter as at least the ball cant stop when told so by a computer. I cant guarantee you would or will win on either and no one forces you into these places but if you are serious stick with the Casino:p Verging on paranoia!! It's not 'told' where or when to stop as such, it's randomly generated by a computer, so if you've backed that number you win, if you haven't, then you lose - much the same as a casino eh! Personally I wouldn't play either, as I know that the odds are against me from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acey Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 As for your last sentence, the casino and the roulette machines have exactly the same edge percentage-wise, so how can one be less fair than the other?******** What are these %'s and where do you get them from The roulette table allows the ball to spin until it stops A machines makes sure the ball stops when it is told I know what i prefer Look, neither are ideal but if lady luck is going to shine I'd rather it be on a table than a machine The casino offers you odds and says on you go A bandit say thanks anytime it wants How can they be the same No offence, but you don't seem to be able to grasp the concepts of, "random number generator", and "basic statistical probability". If you don't know what a "house edge" is in a particular game, then you shouldn't be playing it. In short, if there are 37 numbers on a wheel (1-36 and 0), then, statistically speaking, if you bet on a single number, you'll lose 36 out of every 37 times. Yet the payout for a single number on roulette is usually 35-1. There's your edge. I'll say it again: roulette machines aren't fixed, because they don't need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acey Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The bandit can no doubt can adapt to pattern especially a winning one and make sure that no matter what numbers you pick next time round they aint coming up The casino odds are always the same I know what one i'll go for:) By the way, you're obviously confusing yourself by referring to them as "bandits". Yes, puggies' payouts are fixed. FOBTs are not. There's no such thing as a long-term "winning pattern" in roulette. You cannot beat the house edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 No offence, but you don't seem to be able to grasp the concepts of, "random number generator", and "basic statistical probability". If you don't know what a "house edge" is in a particular game, then you shouldn't be playing it. In short, if there are 37 numbers on a wheel (1-36 and 0), then, statistically speaking, if you bet on a single number, you'll lose 36 out of every 37 times. Yet the payout for a single number on roulette is usually 35-1. There's your edge. I'll say it again: roulette machines aren't fixed, because they don't need to be. No offence taken and i do know the odds on a table, maybe i didnt grasp what you guys were initially saying, I have never posted that the machines are fixed but i think they are worked to fleece the big hitters as oppsed to the smaller bets and are chipped accordingly to detect The Casino table is the same add nuasea IMO the bandit is in a stronger position as it can and does determine the number Re taking away the luck required Right guys away for a meal look forward to being corrected again later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfurdaley Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 No offence, but you don't seem to be able to grasp the concepts of, "random number generator", and "basic statistical probability". If you don't know what a "house edge" is in a particular game, then you shouldn't be playing it. In short, if there are 37 numbers on a wheel (1-36 and 0), then, statistically speaking, if you bet on a single number, you'll lose 36 out of every 37 times. Yet the payout for a single number on roulette is usually 35-1. There's your edge. I'll say it again: roulette machines aren't fixed, because they don't need to be. Sums it up perfectly. Would you accept 10/11 on a coin toss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 As for your last sentence, the casino and the roulette machines have exactly the same edge percentage-wise, so how can one be less fair than the other?******** What are these %'s and where do you get them from The roulette table allows the ball to spin until it stops A machines makes sure the ball stops when it is told I know what i prefer Look, neither are ideal but if lady luck is going to shine I'd rather it be on a table than a machine The casino offers you odds and says on you go A bandit say thanks anytime it wants How can they be the same Percentages - true odds of picking a winner from 37 numbers = 36/1. Roulette table ('virtual' or real) pays you out at 35/1, one point under the true odds. Each set of odds has a 'factor', i.e. the number by which your stake is multiplied to calculate your winnings; factor for 35/1 = 36, and for 36/1 = 37. One point of a difference. As a percentage of thirty seven, this one is equal to 2.70%. That is the 'house edge'. Bandits - 'amusement with prizes' machines: These are set to a percentage payout, usually about 82%, meaning on average that for every ?100 that gets fed into it, it'll keep ?18, so it's fair to argue that you'd have less chance to win on such a machine that has already paid out a lot on any one day. FOBT's - Fixed Odds Betting Terminals: These are the machines which offer roulette and other games - they are not set to any percentage profit or payout. Neither do/can they 'tell' the roulette ball where or when to stop. Hope that clears it up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 No offence taken and i do know the odds on a table, maybe i didnt grasp what you guys were initially saying, I have never posted that the machines are fixed but i think they are worked to fleece the big hitters as oppsed to the smaller bets and are chipped accordingly to detect The Casino table is the same add nuasea IMO the bandit is in a stronger position as it can and does determine the number Re taking away the luck required Right guys away for a meal look forward to being corrected again later You have now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 My mates been doing his brains in for the last few months on these machines. Done in thousands. I spoke to him about it to try and get him off them but doesn't seemed to have worked. He has always liked a bet but does nothing now bar play these stupid machine. To let you know how bad hes got. One night he was playing and he was up ?400 quid. Kept on playing till he lost the lot. Skint !! Mugs game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjambo22 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 You have now! Cheers for that What i do know :rolleyes:is if i have a bet on Roulette it will be on the table as opposed to the bandit as the thought of a chip stopping the ball doesny really appeal to me All the stats you want guys but i bet you a quid to a penny:) the machine is programmed to watch the bigger bet and make sure it's a miss, at the same time giving out crumbs at the bun fight to the lesser stakes but still returning the same stats/return as the table:confused: Hard to win Re, we know, but machines stink more than the wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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