vegas-voss Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Gerry1874 said: Liam Boyce was a better 10 than shanks. Best he can hope for is a big pay day in Saudi. Knock Shanks all you want but the facts say Boyce simply wasn't as good in that role.Boyve came in done ok for a few games that was it.Still would rather have a proper 10 instead of Shanks though. Quote
Hømme Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Folk are acting like scorned lovers playing down Shanks' contribution with us. Quote
XB52 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 3 hours ago, Aussie Jambo said: Is he going to be a sub? As I can’t see him playing a full game down south, he’s not fit enough Look at him 2 years ago and then now. He’s almost double the size. If we can get rid then that’s good business. See ye. He’s been mince for a while now. We won’t get the 4 million or what ever it was. Be lucky to get $750k I’d say. But it’s better than leaving for free. Can’t say I’ll be sad. Wilson got a place in the Scotland camp. Guess who didn’t? 👋 It would be a miracle if we got 750k, or even £7.50 as he is free at the end of the season Quote
Batistuta87 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) Mental how many people are still holding out hope that he'll sign an extension at Hearts. There's absolutely no way he's staying beyond the summer. Just accept it and move on. Edited March 12 by Batistuta87 Quote
OmiyaHearts Posted March 12 Posted March 12 3 hours ago, Hagar the Horrible said: I think the Jamestown computer system chucked out error 504 If he signs on next year, then we will, but he needs to get his attitude right. He is never a captain for me, and if he does not sign on before the plit, take the captaincy away from him, unless we wait to see if we win the Semi? But once he goes, there wont be any sadness, we just want the matter settled so totally agree with you. And I truly think the computer will give us better, somebody that fits into a system we are building. of the legacy players that came before the analitics, I would hope that penrice, spital, Wilson, the Hoff and Beni the computer says yes. As for Shanks, bye and good luck, he divides by zero Shankland should be a 510 error - Not Extended Quote
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Stay or go I personally am ambivalent. However is it possible this diamond formation doesn't suit him? Or are they playing it trying to shoehorn him in? Either way it doesn't seem to be working that well. Quote
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted March 12 Posted March 12 16 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: Knock Shanks all you want but the facts say Boyce simply wasn't as good in that role.Boyve came in done ok for a few games that was it.Still would rather have a proper 10 instead of Shanks though. Do we have a 10 already in Sander Kartum? Quote
soonbe110 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 49 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Sheff Utd, Burnley & Leeds are the current top 3. The 3 relegated clubs last season. Parachutes might not be what they were but the tv revenue is at an all time high. I wasn’t referring to football performance, just financial performance. Quote
kingantti1874 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, Hømme said: Folk are acting like scorned lovers playing down Shanks' contribution with us. he’s been an absolute hero, one the best signings of not the best the club have made since 2005 imo. But the relationship seems to have run its course. Quote
Fraggle Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Can we just get rid of him already, please? This is like an extended break up with a girlfriend. There was once happier times in the past, both were good for each other, but the time has come to call an end to it (especially since the gf has let herself go a bit, chucked on several pounds, and it isn't delivering in the "relationship" stakes😋) Quote
Carter Posted March 12 Posted March 12 It's a circus and the curtain needs brought down at earliest opportunity. Two good seasons before this season where he's shown a complete absence of fitness, attitude and professionalism. Believed for the past year he's outgrown the club. Let him test that theory. He materially impacts how we play and NC is presumably under pressure to play him. Thank you and goodbye 👋 Quote
Hømme Posted March 12 Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: he’s been an absolute hero, one the best signings of not the best the club have made since 2005 imo. But the relationship seems to have run its course. Don't get me wrong its probably the best time to part ways but lets not rewrite history. Quote
AC Mallin_51 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 5 hours ago, Cambo_Jambo said: Score the winner vs Celtic in the Cup Final and off into the sunset. Chapter closed. Then a joint lifting of the cup with Craig Gordon before he retires. Would be poetic Quote
kingantti1874 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 35 minutes ago, Hømme said: Don't get me wrong its probably the best time to part ways but lets not rewrite history. agreed Quote
vegas-voss Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said: Do we have a 10 already in Sander Kartum? I think so Quote
JimmyCant Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said: Do we have a 10 already in Sander Kartum? Hopefully he really kicks on after his two goals, but he needs a run at 10 before we hand him that jersey. I reckon that’s his position. Outwith the 2 goals he’s not stood out YET, albeit playing in the diamond which we’ll hopefully bin soon enough Quote
boag1874 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Dazo said: Wow, you better be young as ****. 😂 30, or did you fail to understand the “Modern Day” part? Quote
Thunder and Lightning Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Hømme said: Folk are acting like scorned lovers playing down Shanks' contribution with us. It's really not the case. I don't see anyone playing down his contribution in his first two seasons. The fact is he has been shite this season. Not below par, not struggling with x, shite. Quote
Dazo Posted March 12 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, boag1874 said: 30, or did you fail to understand the “Modern Day” part? Understood it fully, that why I laughed. Cracking goal scorer for 2 seasons, hero ? Nah. Quote
chester copperpot Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Carter said: It's a circus and the curtain needs brought down at earliest opportunity. Two good seasons before this season where he's shown a complete absence of fitness, attitude and professionalism. Believed for the past year he's outgrown the club. Let him test that theory. He materially impacts how we play and NC is presumably under pressure to play him. Thank you and goodbye 👋 Spot on analogy though 👌 Quote
McCrae Posted March 12 Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: Mental how many people are still holding out hope that he'll sign an extension at Hearts. There's absolutely no way he's staying beyond the summer. Just accept it and move on. I hope he does move on. The team plays better without him, his lack of mobility is a big issue. Quote
McCrae Posted March 12 Posted March 12 39 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: Hopefully he really kicks on after his two goals, but he needs a run at 10 before we hand him that jersey. I reckon that’s his position. Outwith the 2 goals he’s not stood out YET, albeit playing in the diamond which we’ll hopefully bin soon enough BS could easily play that position. Quote
BigStein Posted March 12 Posted March 12 46 minutes ago, Dazo said: Understood it fully, that why I laughed. Cracking goal scorer for 2 seasons, hero ? Nah. To be fair for those under the age of about 16 it’s slim pickings for Hearts heroes Quote
maltese jambo Posted March 12 Posted March 12 I'm absolutely wanting him to leave the club. His attitude is dire and that is not what we need here. And certainly not what we want as captain material. This is one of the main reasons hibs own us this season. Quote
Robbo-Jambo Posted March 12 Posted March 12 6 hours ago, 18Jambo_dave74 said: I'd be shocked if he ended up at Sunderland or Ipswich. If Shankland managed to get a move to the English Championship then he'd be doing incredibly well. Cant see these clubs being interested in him after this season and he is approaching 30. Think there is a chance he will sign a new contract with us. Maybe that would clear his mind and we would see the old Shanks. Would also take the captaincy off him. Remember this guy hit over 60 goals in two seasons. We waited for over 30 years for a striker to achieve this. Quote
craigrusty1985 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Going by his goal record it is time to part ways. He wants a fat paycheck to see out his career. Thanks for the goals and all the best Quote
Batistuta87 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) 20 minutes ago, craigrusty1985 said: Going by his goal record it is time to part ways. He wants a fat paycheck to see out his career. Thanks for the goals and all the best Doing exactly the same thing at Hearts as he did at Dundee Utd. Done well, wanted a move, lost interest, chucked it. Edited March 12 by Batistuta87 Quote
Smithian Posted March 12 Posted March 12 If Sunderland or Ipswich want to give him a bag o' cash, he should take it. Hearts should offer him a return contract based on the club's wage structure, not whatever was offered last summer. If he can beat Hearts money, shake his hand, thank him, immediately have the Board institute a rule that no player in last 12 months of contract can be team captain. Quote
OTT Posted March 12 Posted March 12 11 minutes ago, Smithian said: If Sunderland or Ipswich want to give him a bag o' cash, he should take it. Hearts should offer him a return contract based on the club's wage structure, not whatever was offered last summer. If he can beat Hearts money, shake his hand, thank him, immediately have the Board institute a rule that no player in last 12 months of contract can be team captain. I would like him to stay, but this season has been a mess and he's been central to it. Sad that this is how things end. Quote
Valois No1 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 33% of his time at the club will go down as a complete failure. He was amazing they first two seasons but it’s time to go…….Ta Ta and farewell Quote
gordon simpson Posted March 12 Posted March 12 8 hours ago, Spellczech said: We just need this resolved ASAP - it's like a bluidy soap opera. Shankland has been as detrimental to this season as he was pivotal to the previous 2. It needs to end. this Quote
Captain Canada Posted March 12 Posted March 12 I can't believe we're even considering re-opening contract talks with him. He's wanted away for a while and fallen well short of expectations this season. He's a poor captain as well, his daft booking and half-hearted effort for the second goal in the derby were inexcusable. Overall, he's been amazing, but it's definitely best we part ways in the summer. Quote
JimmyCant Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Smithian said: ……. have the Board institute a rule that no player in last 12 months of contract can be team captain. Would that include Gordon Halkett Devlin Baningime (amongst others) ? Quote
jonnyinfo Posted March 12 Posted March 12 I dunno if it's just me but I'm definitely seeing through the cynical PR from the shanks camp, having an 18 year old Wilson take his spot in the Scotland squad is nothing short of humiliating, so they're throwing out some bullshit about clubs being interested in him 😂 it's grim!! Quote
Ked Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Over the piece Shankland has produced healthy. He was a machine for two seasons on the trot and has served the club well. There's been some magical moments from him. Quote
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Extremely grateful we got the best two years of Shankland's career and he more or less carried the team during that period. Now it's time to part ways and look to move the ball quicker in the position Shankland takes up on the pitch. Good luck to him but I will be pissed off if he turns up lean and fit for whoever he signs for. Quote
Rudy T Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) I don’t think anyone needs to worry about him getting offered anything like the contract originally on offer, whenever his name is mentioned to McKinley he looks like he’s going to smack the person asking. Edited March 12 by Rudy T Quote
SMJ_1874 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 The Shankland ship has sailed for me. If I was manager he’d be a sub at best. I would not be playing the diamond formation to shoehorn our misfiring captain in just for the hell of it. He’s moving on so we accept it and we move on likewise. Continuing to play shanks will be Critchleys downfall and if we have any aspirations for cup silverware and top six then shanks needs taken out the team for everyone’s sake. The thought of any unfit player who can’t press from the front or move about on the big Hampden pitch gives me the fear and if we win our semi then the speed and pace of the green arse cheek will expose our shortcomings. I hope Critchley can learn something from our up and coming trip to Parkhead. Losing 3 cup finals in 5 years to Celtic would be to sore to bare and we need 11 fighting fit me to compete. Good luck with your future Shanks and thanks for all your efforts. #DitchtheDiamond! Quote
SMJ_1874 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 23 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said: Extremely grateful we got the best two years of Shankland's career and he more or less carried the team during that period. Now it's time to part ways and look to move the ball quicker in the position Shankland takes up on the pitch. Good luck to him but I will be pissed off if he turns up lean and fit for whoever he signs for. Shanks is still a young man and when you look at Luca Modric in the Madrid derby it’s hard to see just how a professional athlete could end up a shadow of his first two years with us. Missing a whole pre season to have a jolly in Germany has impacted his performance greatly. I’d love to be proved wrong as shanks has natural skill and ability. I have no doubt he’ll lose a stone or so this off season and be the player we know he can be. Sadly it will be for his new employer and not us. Quote
Chong Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Heard all the interest before but never anything concrete in the offers. Could be a plot to try to extract a maximum offer from Hearts by team Shankland. Can't see him staying, it would have been done I think by now and I do wonder if we even enter any more negotiating with him or his agent? I'm more interested in his replacement and excited at the potential for us to identify a better solution to our future attacking style and formation. Quote
fabienleclerq Posted March 12 Posted March 12 I think both those clubs will be looking at better suited options to their league and ambitions tbh. Zero sell on value and not a huge amount of space, can't score in a bucket of ******s this year. Not sure the interest will come to much. Quote
Fort Vallance Posted March 12 Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, SMJ_1874 said: The Shankland ship has sailed for me. If I was manager he’d be a sub at best. I would not be playing the diamond formation to shoehorn our misfiring captain in just for the hell of it. He’s moving on so we accept it and we move on likewise. Continuing to play shanks will be Critchleys downfall and if we have any aspirations for cup silverware and top six then shanks needs taken out the team for everyone’s sake. The thought of any unfit player who can’t press from the front or move about on the big Hampden pitch gives me the fear and if we win our semi then the speed and pace of the green arse cheek will expose our shortcomings. I hope Critchley can learn something from our up and coming trip to Parkhead. Losing 3 cup finals in 5 years to Celtic would be to sore to bare and we need 11 fighting fit me to compete. Good luck with your future Shanks and thanks for all your efforts. #DitchtheDiamond! How many times. We're not playing the diamond to "shoehorn" Shankland in. If we had a decent wide forward it might help. Quote
SMJ_1874 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, Fort Vallance said: How many times. We're not playing the diamond to "shoehorn" Shankland in. If we had a decent wide forward it might help. We’ll agree to disagree that Critchley is trying to find a place for shanks in the starting line up. There should be no place upfront in any position for a slow and immobile forward and that’s before I even get started on the captaincy. Quote
cosanostra Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Probably for the best that he leaves. We can't afford for a player who would want the type of money he'd want to stay, to perform like he has this season. It's too risky for us given the year he's had. If someone else will pay him big money he should take it because he's struggled so badly this year at our level. Quote
redjambo Posted March 12 Posted March 12 12 hours ago, johnking123 said: Time for us both to move on. Quote
redjambo Posted March 12 Posted March 12 He carried the team so much that when he went off the boil, we tanked. That's how magnificently well he played. But now he's more off the boil than not. And we can probably thank whoever put the idea into his head that he was a world-beater with teams falling over themselves to sign him up, as well as the media for doing the same and mentioning Rangers in every sentence where he was, and not forgetting Steve fecking Clark for treating him nowhere as well as he deserved. They all combined to drag him down from being a great player to becoming just a standard player with the occasional flash of greatness. Quote
periodictabledancer Posted March 12 Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, redjambo said: He carried the team so much that when he went off the boil, we tanked. That's how magnificently well he played. But now he's more off the boil than not. And we can probably thank whoever put the idea into his head that he was a world-beater with teams falling over themselves to sign him up, as well as the media for doing the same and mentioning Rangers in every sentence where he was, and not forgetting Steve fecking Clark for treating him nowhere as well as he deserved. They all combined to drag him down from being a great player to becoming just a standard player with the occasional flash of greatness. He didn't ' carry' the Hearts team and he's never been a ' great player' Quote
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 12 Posted March 12 8 hours ago, Hømme said: Folk are acting like scorned lovers playing down Shanks' contribution with us. Yep. It should be perfectly possible to think it's time for him to move on without throwing sour grapes everywhere. He was absolutely enormous for us for two seasons, full stop. Fantastic goals, including that late winner against Hibs that he made out of nothing. This season has been a disappointment but no need for the nonsense. Quote
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Just now, periodictabledancer said: He didn't ' carry' the Hearts team and he's never been a ' great player' WTF Quote
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