Big drone

[Cruyff]

Man made and operated by the US.  Otherwise there'd be fighter jets all over them. They're maybe doing an exercise or, more sinisterly, looking for something that emits gamma rays. What ever the reason, it's all a bit strange. 

[Costanza]

Things like this are always a reliable way to get Republican conspiracy theorists to make absolute ****s of themselves. 

This one is up there with the FBI WiFi network being proof they were spying on people 

 

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1868170373495226863?s=19

 

[cheetah]

Its not aliens, it's us from the future 😏

[Clark Griswold]

31 minutes ago, cheetah said:

Its not aliens, it's us from the future 😏

Are Hearts still as shite in the future mate? Be good to know  

[cheetah]

34 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

Are Hearts still as shite in the future mate? Be good to know  

Just got a good, hard fought, away 0-0 draw with Peterhead. 

[Thunder and Lightning]

1 hour ago, cheetah said:

Just got a good, hard fought, away 0-0 draw with Peterhead. 

 

Good result against a team in a higher division. 

[redjambo]

2 hours ago, Clark Griswold said:

Are Hearts still as shite in the future mate? Be good to know  

 

1 hour ago, cheetah said:

Just got a good, hard fought, away 0-0 draw with Peterhead. 

 

2 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said:

 

Good result against a team in a higher division. 

 

[WorldChampions1902]

Some spectacular footage at 20,000 feet from a passenger jet over New York, in the past few hours seemingly. Utterly infested with glowing “drones”. Let’s hope, none of those drones get sucked into the airline jet engines.

 

[Ally]

2 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Some spectacular footage at 20,000 feet from a passenger jet over New York, in the past few hours seemingly. Utterly infested with glowing “drones”. Let’s hope, none of those drones get sucked into the airline jet engines.

 

Let's hope Will Smith punches these aliens like he did in Independence Day rather than the slap he gave Chris Rock, otherwise we're all toast.

[kila]

2 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Some spectacular footage at 20,000 feet from a passenger jet over New York, in the past few hours seemingly. Utterly infested with glowing “drones”. Let’s hope, none of those drones get sucked into the airline jet engines.

 

 

Look like other planes to me, some airspace is quite congested with multiple airports nearby.

 

No chance a commercial airliner would be flying near drones that visible. Not every glowing thing in the sky is a drone or UFO, there's no shortage of planes big and small.

 

[Ally]

1 minute ago, kila said:

 

Look like other planes to me, some airspace is quite congested with multiple airports nearby.

 

No chance a commercial airliner would be flying near drones that visible. Not every glowing thing in the sky is a drone or UFO, there's no shortage of planes big and small.

 

Indeed. On the flight out to Copenhagen last week I saw a blinking red light way off in the distance in the early morning light. What I thought was a flight going in the other direction was obviously the new flying Terminator subtly winking at me on his way to kill John Connor.

[WorldChampions1902]

The latest news both here in the U.K. and over the pond.
 

In essence, these craft are able to come and go at will undetected, including over our most sensitive nuclear bases and critical infrastructure. Nothing to worry about seemingly and if this continues for months, so be it. Questions need to be getting asked in Parliament.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14202269/drones-airbases-UK-bombshell-report.html

[ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ]

41 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

The latest news both here in the U.K. and over the pond.
 

In essence, these craft are able to come and go at will undetected, including over our most sensitive nuclear bases and critical infrastructure. Nothing to worry about seemingly and if this continues for months, so be it. Questions need to be getting asked in Parliament.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14202269/drones-airbases-UK-bombshell-report.html

 

It seems they can lie about knowledge if it's technology that's on a secure tech list.

This seems pretty obvious and would appear to be backed up by althe lack of urgency in authority.

 

I might not know for sure what they are, but I know for sure what they're not!

[WorldChampions1902]

11 hours ago, ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ said:

 

It seems they can lie about knowledge if it's technology that's on a secure tech list.

This seems pretty obvious and would appear to be backed up by althe lack of urgency in authority.

 

I might not know for sure what they are, but I know for sure what they're not!

Who are “they”?

 

If you are talking about the gatekeepers of UAP knowledge, no, they are NOT allowed to lie to the US Congress. That gets you jailed. Furthermore, so-called tech secrets you allude can to be shared with the ‘Gang of Eight’ leaders in Congress, who are cleared to be briefed on the most secret intelligence.  But it is crystal clear from the ongoing whistleblower hearings, that Congress is being lied to, even before considering the current “drone” fairy tale. If what you are suggesting was true, then Congress would have been told long ago that they can legally be lied to and therefore, no UAP hearings are warranted.

 

And I will say it one more time. This phenomenon is occurring right now, globally. It is NOT a US/UK exclusive event. That very fact confirms what it definitively isn’t. It isn’t US or U.K. tech and in that regard, at least the repeated US government statements to that effect can be taken at face value IMHO.

 

So when you declare quote, “I might not know for sure what they are, but I know for sure what they're not!”, remember to apply those safeguards against “confirmation bias”, you quite readily referred to in an earlier post.

[ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ]

1 hour ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Who are “they”?

 

If you are talking about the gatekeepers of UAP knowledge, no, they are NOT allowed to lie to the US Congress. That gets you jailed. Furthermore, so-called tech secrets you allude can to be shared with the ‘Gang of Eight’ leaders in Congress, who are cleared to be briefed on the most secret intelligence.  But it is crystal clear from the ongoing whistleblower hearings, that Congress is being lied to, even before considering the current “drone” fairy tale. If what you are suggesting was true, then Congress would have been told long ago that they can legally be lied to and therefore, no UAP hearings are warranted.

 

And I will say it one more time. This phenomenon is occurring right now, globally. It is NOT a US/UK exclusive event. That very fact confirms what it definitively isn’t. It isn’t US or U.K. tech and in that regard, at least the repeated US government statements to that effect can be taken at face value IMHO.

 

So when you declare quote, “I might not know for sure what they are, but I know for sure what they're not!”, remember to apply those safeguards against “confirmation bias”, you quite readily referred to in an earlier post.

 

The government.

[Thunder and Lightning]

1 hour ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Who are “they”?

 

If you are talking about the gatekeepers of UAP knowledge, no, they are NOT allowed to lie to the US Congress. That gets you jailed. Furthermore, so-called tech secrets you allude can to be shared with the ‘Gang of Eight’ leaders in Congress, who are cleared to be briefed on the most secret intelligence.  But it is crystal clear from the ongoing whistleblower hearings, that Congress is being lied to, even before considering the current “drone” fairy tale. If what you are suggesting was true, then Congress would have been told long ago that they can legally be lied to and therefore, no UAP hearings are warranted.

 

And I will say it one more time. This phenomenon is occurring right now, globally. It is NOT a US/UK exclusive event. That very fact confirms what it definitively isn’t. It isn’t US or U.K. tech and in that regard, at least the repeated US government statements to that effect can be taken at face value IMHO.

 

So when you declare quote, “I might not know for sure what they are, but I know for sure what they're not!”, remember to apply those safeguards against “confirmation bias”, you quite readily referred to in an earlier post.

It'll be Westminster's fault mate.

[davemclaren]

7 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said:

It'll be Westminster's fault mate.

Drone laws are reserved to Westminster. 😎

[ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ]

Just now, davemclaren said:

Drone laws are reserved to Westminster. 😎

[Ulysses]

On 17/12/2024 at 15:07, kila said:

 

Look like other planes to me, some airspace is quite congested with multiple airports nearby.

 

No chance a commercial airliner would be flying near drones that visible. Not every glowing thing in the sky is a drone or UFO, there's no shortage of planes big and small.

 

 

Yep.  Just look at the Flightradar screen around NYC right now. 

 

Bear in mind that at 20,000 feet, the distance to the horizon is almost the same as the distance from Edinburgh to Manchester.

 

Now check the screen again. 

 

[Ulysses]

Blessed are those who....

 

 

...WHAT ARE THEY NOT TELLING US?

[Thunder and Lightning]

3 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Drone laws are reserved to Westminster. 😎

So is Foreign policy but that doesn't stop us having pretend embassies or handing out cash to foreign organisations. 🤑

[WorldChampions1902]

1 hour ago, Ulysses said:

Blessed are those who....

 

 

...WHAT ARE THEY NOT TELLING US?

I suggest you take a look at the YouTube recordings of the US Congress UAP hearings and the immediate reaction of those Congress members who took part in subsequent SCIF hearings heard behind closed doors. If you don’t fancy that, then perhaps listen to the words of Col. Carl Nell at this years SALT Conference earlier this year. Don’t worry, you just have to listen to the first five minutes of the video to hear the message. Then pop back and give us your pearls of wisdom?

 

Edited December 19, 2024 by WorldChampions1902

[kila]

Do the crows count as non-human intelligence? Smarter than some folk I know.

[Tazio]

Hang on. So the guys who can travel light years across space in high tech craft have only discovered drones in the last year or so? 

Edited December 19, 2024 by Tazio

[Lord Montpelier]

9 minutes ago, kila said:

Do the crows count as non-human intelligence? Smarter than some folk I know.

Also magpies

[davemclaren]

5 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Hang on. So the guys who can travel light years across space in high tech craft have only discovered drones in the last year or so? 

😮

[iantjambo]

On 13/12/2024 at 20:33, Threedoorsdown said:

Anyone see that big feck off drone over the Drylaw area? Was driving home after visiting a relative in the western. The Mrs is sure I’m seeing things but I’m telling you it was massive!!

 Sounds like your Mrs is used to you exaggerating the size of things  

[Ally]

Funny how people who prove such things do so with YouTube videos. It's almost as if folk have cottoned on that one way to get money is to make conspiracy vids and upload them onto YT.

[WorldChampions1902]

20 minutes ago, Ally said:

Funny how people who prove such things do so with YouTube videos. It's almost as if folk have cottoned on that one way to get money is to make conspiracy vids and upload them onto YT.

Transcripts and quotes of Nell’s revelations at that SALT Conference are readily available. Google’s your friend.
 

But I love your use of the word, “prove”, as it suggests the message (which is the important part here, not the format used to deliver the message), hit home. So that’s progress.

[ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ]

1 hour ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Transcripts and quotes of Nell’s revelations at that SALT Conference are readily available. Google’s your friend.
 

But I love your use of the word, “prove”, as it suggests the message (which is the important part here, not the format used to deliver the message), hit home. So that’s progress.

 

What's the message?

[Costanza]

[WorldChampions1902]

44 minutes ago, ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ said:

 

What's the message?

Listen to the vid or read the transcripts.

[Ally]

7 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

But I love your use of the word, “prove”, as it suggests the message (which is the important part here, not the format used to deliver the message), hit home. So that’s progress.

Sorry pal, no progress here. I don't even know WTF your message is and certainly cannot be hooped rattling about on whatever copy and paste websites you think help underline the obvious thing is the sheeple are missing. I will invest in tinfoil futures, however.

[Ulysses]

11 hours ago, Tazio said:

Hang on. So the guys who can travel light years across space in high tech craft have only discovered drones in the last year or so? 

 

 

[Ulysses]

12 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

I suggest you take a look at the YouTube recordings of the US Congress UAP hearings and the immediate reaction of those Congress members who took part in subsequent SCIF hearings heard behind closed doors. If you don’t fancy that, then perhaps listen to the words of Col. Carl Nell at this years SALT Conference earlier this year. Don’t worry, you just have to listen to the first five minutes of the video to hear the message. Then pop back and give us your pearls of wisdom?

 

 

 

I've already read every word ever written about everything of interest ever said in any of those Congress hearings by anyone remotely interested in publishing anything said by members of Congress.

 

For the avoidance of doubt, that amounted to very, very, very little indeed.

 

If media outlets and companies who desperately need novel and interesting news in order to make a profit cannot find a faintly interesting headline in those hearings, why on Earth would you think I'm going to find anything?  These companies literally depend on interesting news, surprising news, even shocking news, in order to make headlines and shift their wares.  Yet even they couldn't make an interesting story out of this stuff.

 

As for your video?  Alex Klokus sells science mumbo jumbo for a living, and Karl Nell might as well just be Grusch (uncorroborated spoofer) by another name.

 

Fair play to you for your passion, but it is no substitute whatsoever for a bit of research capability.  Mind you, I'm grateful for small mercies; at least this time no-one's trying to peddle fake Inca baby mummies.

 

Until someone actually comes up with evidence instead of waffle, conjecture and downright grift I'm going to continue to be an actual sceptic, ta very much.

 

And I repeat: At a height of 20,000 feet the horizon is nearly 300 kilometres away, and encompasses an area more than twice the size of Scotland.  If you're in a plane 20,000 feet above the ground and sitting beside a window, you literally have sight of an area of sky a wee bit bigger than Scotland.  If your plane is flying over New York City, it's within a few miles of the 6th, 12th and 19th biggest airports in the United States.  Between them, they handle an average of 3,500 flights a day - and that's just the airports immediately around you.  Add in the other four major national and international hubs within reach of the horizon and that figure goes up to nearly 7,000 a day.  When dusk is falling, and there are hundreds of flights (well, a couple of hundred at any rate) getting themselves into position going in to or out of all those airports, a fella with a mobile phone at a plane window is going to see lots and lots, and lots and lots, of lights in the sky.

 

Do the sums, eh?

 

 

Edited December 20, 2024 by Ulysses

[ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ]

23 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Listen to the vid or read the transcripts.

 

But you love going on about this stuff, surely you'd be all over the opportunity to summarise the message in a few short words?

[WorldChampions1902]

21 minutes ago, ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ said:

 

But you love going on about this stuff, surely you'd be all over the opportunity to summarise the message in a few short words?

I couldn’t possibly do justice to the message of Col. Carl Nell in some form of short summary, which was why I thought it best to add the YT clip above. By listening and observing Nell, the viewer gets much more of an opportunity to assess things such as body language. They also can hear his extensive career CV and decide, given his highly impressive background, whether he might be qualified to discuss the topics he covers? On that note, one might want to bear in mind that Col. Nell was whistleblower David Grusch’s boss at one point. The same Grusch that held the highest security clearances to enable him to brief the US President. The same Grusch whose allegations of whistleblower reprisal were decribed by the Intelligence Community Inspector General as being quote, “both credible and urgent”, and which are currently under investigation. A number of Grusch’s other allegations were subsequently confirmed by members of Congress who attended behind closed doors hearings with high level members of the Intelligence Community, as being accurate. Again, investigations and Congress hearings are ongoing.

 

In a similar vein, I am attaching a YT clip at last years SALT Conference (Nell spoke at this years SALT Conference), where the headline speaker was Dr. Garry Nolan of Stanford University. Once again, one only has to listen to the first few minutes. The parallels with Nell’s interview are very striking. With apologies to those that have difficulty understanding the spoken word, I would once again add that transcripts are available Enjoy!

 

[Ulysses]

WHAT ARE THEY NOT TELLING US ABOUT THE LIGHTS?   

[Tazio]

38 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

WHAT ARE THEY NOT TELLING US ABOUT THE LIGHTS?   

It's very plane why.

[Generic Username]

Who was the boy that was absolutely off his rocker for aliens on here and would just copy/paste complete waffle from around the web about them?

[hughesie27]

14 minutes ago, Generic Username said:

Who was the boy that was absolutely off his rocker for aliens on here and would just copy/paste complete waffle from around the web about them?

@maroonlegions

[maroonlegions]

Trump says "something strange is going on".

Source: theconservativetreehouse.com...


Has he said more?

 

Quote;

 

"So, Trump cancels his plans to come to New Jersey. He says the government knows what they are. The government says they are not our and not foreign. So what is left? Aliens I live in New Jersey and see these things everyday. Is disclosure finally happening? All our Fire departments got instruction letters on what to do when one falls from the sky. Call the bomb squad / FBI. How can the greatest super power in the world not know what a "drones" is and how to take one down? "  https://nj1015.com/bedminster-drones-no-fly-zone/

 

 

Edited December 21, 2024 by maroonlegions

[maroonlegions]

Black OPPS..  Thats my take..

[Tazio]

9 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

Trump says "something strange is going on".

Source: theconservativetreehouse.com...


Has he said more?

 

Quote;

 

"So, Trump cancels his plans to come to New Jersey. He says the government knows what they are. The government says they are not our and not foreign. So what is left? Aliens I live in New Jersey and see these things everyday. Is disclosure finally happening? All our Fire departments got instruction letters on what to do when one falls from the sky. Call the bomb squad / FBI. How can the greatest super power in the world not know what a "drones" is and how to take one down? "  https://nj1015.com/bedminster-drones-no-fly-zone/

 

 

I don't believe that recommendations document says at any point 'do not approach may contain aliens' It does however offer good advice on not approaching an unknown object. 

[XB52]

10 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

Trump says "something strange is going on".

Source: theconservativetreehouse.com...


Has he said more?

 

Quote;

 

"So, Trump cancels his plans to come to New Jersey. He says the government knows what they are. The government says they are not our and not foreign. So what is left? Aliens I live in New Jersey and see these things everyday. Is disclosure finally happening? All our Fire departments got instruction letters on what to do when one falls from the sky. Call the bomb squad / FBI. How can the greatest super power in the world not know what a "drones" is and how to take one down? "  https://nj1015.com/bedminster-drones-no-fly-zone/

 

 

🤪🤪

[Ulysses]

3 hours ago, Tazio said:

I don't believe that recommendations document says at any point 'do not approach may contain aliens' It does however offer good advice on not approaching an unknown object. 

 

Block Apps.  That's my teck. 

 

 

[ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ]

On 20/12/2024 at 17:56, WorldChampions1902 said:

I couldn’t possibly do justice to the message of Col. Carl Nell in some form of short summary, which was why I thought it best to add the YT clip above. By listening and observing Nell, the viewer gets much more of an opportunity to assess things such as body language. They also can hear his extensive career CV and decide, given his highly impressive background, whether he might be qualified to discuss the topics he covers? On that note, one might want to bear in mind that Col. Nell was whistleblower David Grusch’s boss at one point. The same Grusch that held the highest security clearances to enable him to brief the US President. The same Grusch whose allegations of whistleblower reprisal were decribed by the Intelligence Community Inspector General as being quote, “both credible and urgent”, and which are currently under investigation. A number of Grusch’s other allegations were subsequently confirmed by members of Congress who attended behind closed doors hearings with high level members of the Intelligence Community, as being accurate. Again, investigations and Congress hearings are ongoing.

 

In a similar vein, I am attaching a YT clip at last years SALT Conference (Nell spoke at this years SALT Conference), where the headline speaker was Dr. Garry Nolan of Stanford University. Once again, one only has to listen to the first few minutes. The parallels with Nell’s interview are very striking. With apologies to those that have difficulty understanding the spoken word, I would once again add that transcripts are available Enjoy!

 

 

You said it proves the message is getting through.

 

What's the message? Aliens are here?

 

And if not, if even you can't articulate it in a few words, who is it getting through to?

[davemclaren]

8 hours ago, Tazio said:

I don't believe that recommendations document says at any point 'do not approach may contain aliens' It does however offer good advice on not approaching an unknown object. 

Who would have thought the Fire Service would tend to be risk averse? 🤷

[SpruceBringsteen]

I think the most tragic thing about TRUTH TELLING conspiracy theorists is that every single one of their weird wee insights into the Machiavellian plots of THEY boils down to this - "the government lies to you"

Holy shit! No! No way! The government lies?! I'm hearing and realising this for the first time! The government lies?! Holy shit!

[lost in space]

7 hours ago, SpruceBringsteen said:

I think the most tragic thing about TRUTH TELLING conspiracy theorists is that every single one of their weird wee insights into the Machiavellian plots of THEY boils down to this - "the government lies to you"

Holy shit! No! No way! The government lies?! I'm hearing and realising this for the first time! The government lies?! Holy shit!

As Jack Niicholson said in "A Few Good Men" - "YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!"