gwd1957 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Hearts fans have pledged million's into the club, it's time the board opened their wallet's and give the long suffering fan's a team to be proud of. We are fed up getting journey men that are average at best, wearing our famous maroon jerseys , we can't just hope that Tony Bloom comes on board, the Hearts board should be held to account for the playing squad , Shankland or no Shankland we should have had at least two other strikers above the quality of ,Boyce ,Forrest Mckay and Oda , ready to play and be major players in the squad ,we've shot ourselves in the foot relying on just one man to score the goals for our troubled club, we should never be in the position we find ourselves in , IF Bloom comes on board that will be great , but what if he doesn't come until summer ,have we got a board that will splash the cash to save us from a relegation dog fight with Hibs ? ..... I really hope they do , but all Hearts fans should be really worried because i have serious doubts they will treat our position in the league as a major disaster in waiting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Slaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Agm going to be interesting next Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcjambo Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 The level of donations has already been of the scale though, are you expecting more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Where's this money coming from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 5 minutes ago, gwd1957 said: Hearts fans have pledged million's into the club, it's time the board opened their wallet's and give the long suffering fan's a team to be proud of. We are fed up getting journey men that are average at best, wearing our famous maroon jerseys , we can't just hope that Tony Bloom comes on board, the Hearts board should be held to account for the playing squad , Shankland or no Shankland we should have had at least two other strikers above the quality of ,Boyce ,Forrest Mckay and Oda , ready to play and be major players in the squad ,we've shot ourselves in the foot relying on just one man to score the goals for our troubled club, we should never be in the position we find ourselves in , IF Bloom comes on board that will be great , but what if he doesn't come until summer ,have we got a board that will splash the cash to save us from a relegation dog fight with Hibs ? ..... I really hope they do , but all Hearts fans should be really worried because i have serious doubts they will treat our position in the league as a major disaster in waiting . The board don't decide what positions are signed. That's the managers job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Just now, Gmcjambo said: The level of donations has already been of the scale though, are you expecting more? Yep but nothing to really show for it though . We are below average and wasted on so many shite players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr fox Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Want to see better players on the pitch and stop wasting money on other things. The academy produces nothing much for what we put into it. Not really interested in the woman’s team we are mismanaging money. The benefactor,European money and FOH contributions and we have no decent strikers or wingers in the first team. Its actually unacceptable now time heads were removed from the board for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery_Moon Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 10 minutes ago, davemclaren said: The board don't decide what positions are signed. That's the managers job. No but ultimately as in any business the buck stops at the top - for Heart of Midlothian Football Club that is the board. All signings have been made by personnel that the board have appointed so they rightly are to blame for the mess we are in. Doctor Budge was happy to parade the Championship trophy when we won it in 2015. She may get her 3rd 'title' next season the way things are going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 2 minutes ago, mr fox said: Want to see better players on the pitch and stop wasting money on other things. The academy produces nothing much for what we put into it. Not really interested in the woman’s team we are mismanaging money. The benefactor,European money and FOH contributions and we have no decent strikers or wingers in the first team. Its actually unacceptable now time heads were removed from the board for me. Do you seriously want the board to start picking the players we sign. That's the manager's job, and the fact that we are short in the goalscoring department is down to Naesmith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 4 minutes ago, Silvery_Moon said: No but ultimately as in any business the buck stops at the top - for Heart of Midlothian Football Club that is the board. All signings have been made by personnel that the board have appointed so they rightly are to blame for the mess we are in. Doctor Budge was happy to parade the Championship trophy when we won it in 2015. She may get her 3rd 'title' next season the way things are going. No way this team would win the championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Its time for all the available cash to be used towards the 1st team to get the Bloom deal up and running. It really needs to be prioritised in January or we going down again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwd1957 Posted November 29 Author Share Posted November 29 3 minutes ago, 1953 said: Do you seriously want the board to start picking the players we sign. That's the manager's job, and the fact that we are short in the goalscoring department is down to Naesmith. Mad Vlad had an eye for a good player . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilmuir Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 21 minutes ago, Gmcjambo said: The level of donations has already been of the scale though, are you expecting more? Not sure how much James Anderson has donated but it must be more than £30 million (someone on here will know) so I’m not sure we can question how much the board has put in. The issue is how the money has been spent and how, despite the massive investment, we are joint bottom of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 7 minutes ago, Sherbet said: No way this team would win the championship If we get relegated it won’t be the same team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 1 minute ago, gwd1957 said: Mad Vlad had an eye for a good player . Perhaps he did, but he's not here now. Does anybody on the current board have an eye for a good player? The board got rid of Naesmith and appointed the guy who they think can do a better job so all we can do is let him get on with it and get behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwd1957 Posted November 29 Author Share Posted November 29 8 minutes ago, 1953 said: Perhaps he did, but he's not here now. Does anybody on the current board have an eye for a good player? The board got rid of Naesmith and appointed the guy who they think can do a better job so all we can do is let him get on with it and get behind him. Lets hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwd1957 Posted November 29 Author Share Posted November 29 40 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Where's this money coming from? £3.295m from European money so far .!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 6 minutes ago, gwd1957 said: £3.295m from European money so far .!!!! A McK stated that the cash from competing and two European wins were already included in the budget for this year, and any European money made above that could be used for new players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gar jambo Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 3 hours ago, gwd1957 said: Hearts fans have pledged million's into the club, it's time the board opened their wallet's and give the long suffering fan's a team to be proud of. We are fed up getting journey men that are average at best, wearing our famous maroon jerseys , we can't just hope that Tony Bloom comes on board, the Hearts board should be held to account for the playing squad , Shankland or no Shankland we should have had at least two other strikers above the quality of ,Boyce ,Forrest Mckay and Oda , ready to play and be major players in the squad ,we've shot ourselves in the foot relying on just one man to score the goals for our troubled club, we should never be in the position we find ourselves in , IF Bloom comes on board that will be great , but what if he doesn't come until summer ,have we got a board that will splash the cash to save us from a relegation dog fight with Hibs ? ..... I really hope they do , but all Hearts fans should be really worried because i have serious doubts they will treat our position in the league as a major disaster in waiting . Well said pal! peopledont like the truth our fans don't deserve this one bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi33 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 2 hours ago, Sherbet said: No way this team would win the championship Yea they will Robbie will be back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr fox Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 5 hours ago, 1953 said: Do you seriously want the board to start picking the players we sign. That's the manager's job, and the fact that we are short in the goalscoring department is down to Naesmith. We are wasting money away from better players on pointless projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 5 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Agm going to be interesting next Wednesday The board will be hoping for a great result against Aberdeen on Sunday, otherwise it could be a repeat of last years AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Sell: Shankland, Vargas, Ann's yacht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 58 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: The board will be hoping for a great result against Aberdeen on Sunday, otherwise it could be a repeat of last years AGM. It's bizarre that as our turnover increases and wages increase we in worse situation ! Manager was held accountable and lost his job but when does people making decisions upstairs start being held accountable ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 4 hours ago, gar jambo said: Well said pal! peopledont like the truth our fans don't deserve this one bit! ditto... well put and true 🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 11 hours ago, davemclaren said: The board don't decide what positions are signed. That's the managers job. No, but it should be their job to ask questions of recruitment that the fans can’t. One of which should have been To both the manager and recruitment team when Tagawa was sold, who are you replacing him with. The board are in the risk management business and there should have been foresight. No one expected Shankland’s form to fall off a cliff but IMO there should always be questions/planning for someone as valuable to the team as Shankland was, do we have a Plan B if he picks up a long term injury because from what we can see, you’re looking to replace him with a player that has barely kicked a ball in the last 2 seasons or 2 untried kids. Ultimately Shankland’s lack of goals cost the manager his job, but there is blame to be attached to the board and recruitment department for their lack of questioning to the manager around how his goals would be replaced should anything happen to him after the window shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 1 hour ago, merseyjambo said: No, but it should be their job to ask questions of recruitment that the fans can’t. One of which should have been To both the manager and recruitment team when Tagawa was sold, who are you replacing him with. The board are in the risk management business and there should have been foresight. No one expected Shankland’s form to fall off a cliff but IMO there should always be questions/planning for someone as valuable to the team as Shankland was, do we have a Plan B if he picks up a long term injury because from what we can see, you’re looking to replace him with a player that has barely kicked a ball in the last 2 seasons or 2 untried kids. Ultimately Shankland’s lack of goals cost the manager his job, but there is blame to be attached to the board and recruitment department for their lack of questioning to the manager around how his goals would be replaced should anything happen to him after the window shut. So the non-football background board quiz Naismith when Tagawa is sold and Naismith says ‘Shankland will primarily play as the lone striker in a 4231, Vargas is showing promise and if he continues to develop is Shanklands heir apparent, I want to give James Wilson more minutes this season and Boyce is an experienced backup so I’d rather bring in players in other positions’ what do you expect the non-football background board to respond to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 14 hours ago, gwd1957 said: Hearts fans have pledged million's into the club, it's time the board opened their wallet's and give the long suffering fan's a team to be proud of. We are fed up getting journey men that are average at best, wearing our famous maroon jerseys , we can't just hope that Tony Bloom comes on board, the Hearts board should be held to account for the playing squad , Shankland or no Shankland we should have had at least two other strikers above the quality of ,Boyce ,Forrest Mckay and Oda , ready to play and be major players in the squad ,we've shot ourselves in the foot relying on just one man to score the goals for our troubled club, we should never be in the position we find ourselves in , IF Bloom comes on board that will be great , but what if he doesn't come until summer ,have we got a board that will splash the cash to save us from a relegation dog fight with Hibs ? ..... I really hope they do , but all Hearts fans should be really worried because i have serious doubts they will treat our position in the league as a major disaster in waiting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 13 hours ago, Pilmuir said: Not sure how much James Anderson has donated but it must be more than £30 million (someone on here will know) so I’m not sure we can question how much the board has put in. The issue is how the money has been spent and how, despite the massive investment, we are joint bottom of the league. and borrowing another £7m mental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 14 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Where's this money coming from? Are we skint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1440 Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 3 hours ago, Ribble said: So the non-football background board quiz Naismith when Tagawa is sold and Naismith says ‘Shankland will primarily play as the lone striker in a 4231, Vargas is showing promise and if he continues to develop is Shanklands heir apparent, I want to give James Wilson more minutes this season and Boyce is an experienced backup so I’d rather bring in players in other positions’ what do you expect the non-football background board to respond to that? "Non-football background Board": THEREIN LIES THE "BIG ISSUE". & Zero clarity on who is ultimately accountable for overall football ops - everyone seems to dodge this bullet. In the modern era you will not get away with that. Crikey! A DOF was appointed at Fester Rd. & even with that title he is able to dodge clarity on his position. Get this role established & find some Boardroom football experience - this is the Board's responsibility & accountability. For the record this topic has been an ongoing discussion for approximately 10 years - why in the world when you are spending fortunes on players would you not ensure these specific roles were in place consistently?? ESTABLISHED LEADERS for an ESTABLISHED FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerja Jambo Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 17 hours ago, Silvery_Moon said: No but ultimately as in any business the buck stops at the top - for Heart of Midlothian Football Club that is the board. All signings have been made by personnel that the board have appointed so they rightly are to blame for the mess we are in. Doctor Budge was happy to parade the Championship trophy when we won it in 2015. She may get her 3rd 'title' next season the way things are going. Said it many times on here, the buck stops at the top in any business and that is our board. The vast majority of stuff they have got right, but the football disasters they have overseen by continually going for the cheap and easy option has cost us an untold amount. This is actually the first time I feel that they now appreciate that you get what you pay for and that we should not be used as a training ground for coaches and that mistake is on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ribble said: So the non-football background board quiz Naismith when Tagawa is sold and Naismith says ‘Shankland will primarily play as the lone striker in a 4231, Vargas is showing promise and if he continues to develop is Shanklands heir apparent, I want to give James Wilson more minutes this season and Boyce is an experienced backup so I’d rather bring in players in other positions’ what do you expect the non-football background board to respond to that? Ultimately the board are responsible for all goings on at the football club. The buck stops with them, be it the commercial side or the footballing side. The manager says that to me, my response is - so if Lawrence does his ACL in on 5th September, are Vargas and an untried 17 year old going to be enough to keep us competitive towards the top end of the table until January????? And if no one on the board asked that question well some real question marks need asked of them. While Shankland hasn’t done his ACL, his form is similar to him not being in the team and we have no options. Edited November 30 by merseyjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 11 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: Ultimately the board are responsible for all goings on at the football club. The buck stops with them, be it the commercial side or the footballing side. The manager says that to me, my response is - so if Lawrence does his ACL in on 5th September, are Vargas and an untried 17 year old going to be enough to keep us competitive towards the top end of the table until January????? And if no one on the board asked that question well some real question marks need asked of them. While Shankland hasn’t done his ACL, his form is similar to him not being in the team and we have no options. The board is indeed accountable for everything at the football club. How do you know that the board didn't ask any of those type of questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 5 minutes ago, davemclaren said: The board is indeed accountable for everything at the football club. How do you know that the board didn't ask any of those type of questions? No one knows whether they did or didn’t but there has to be accountability there in terms of how we are performing and how we allowed ourselves to get into a position where we are lacking options that is so crucial to a football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 8 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: No one knows whether they did or didn’t but there has to be accountability there in terms of how we are performing and how we allowed ourselves to get into a position where we are lacking options that is so crucial to a football club. The manager is responsible for the playing side of the club. The fact that Naismith lost his job due to poor results would suggest a fairly high level of accountability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 5 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: No one knows whether they did or didn’t but there has to be accountability there in terms of how we are performing and how we allowed ourselves to get into a position where we are lacking options that is so crucial to a football club. I think we all agree that not signing a couple of new forwards in the summer was major mistake - but how much blame for that lies with the Board is unknown. Naismith was quoted as saying we didn't need to sign anybody else, and then let Kirk go and sold Tagawa. I'd put money on the likelihood of someone on the Board having quizzed him to explain that - but he was the man in charge of football stuff after Joe left, so I'm not sure what else the Board were meant to do. Naismith paid the price ultimately. Imagine if/when Bloom becomes a significant minority shareholder (possibly even a Board member) .... and we're still sh1te even after signing 2 or 3 of his recommended players. Things become rather awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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