Time for the board to pledge to the fans.

[gwd1957]

Hearts fans have pledged million's into the club, it's time the board opened their wallet's and give the long suffering fan's a team to be proud of. We are fed up getting journey men that are average at best, wearing our famous maroon jerseys ,  we can't just hope that Tony Bloom comes on board, the Hearts board should be held to account for the playing squad , Shankland or no Shankland  we should have had at least two other strikers above the quality of ,Boyce ,Forrest Mckay and Oda ,  ready to play and be major players in the squad ,we've shot ourselves in the foot relying on just one man to score the goals for our troubled club, we should never be in the position we find ourselves in ,  IF   Bloom comes on board that will be great , but what if he doesn't come until summer ,have we got a board that will splash the cash to save us from a relegation dog fight with Hibs  ? ..... I really hope they do  , but all Hearts fans should be really  worried because i have serious doubts they will treat  our position in the league as a major disaster in waiting .

[Bill Sikes]

Slaver.

[rocketman19]

Agm going to be interesting next Wednesday 

[Gmcjambo]

The level of donations has already been of the scale though, are you expecting more? 

[hughesie27]

Where's this money coming from? 

[davemclaren]

5 minutes ago, gwd1957 said:

Hearts fans have pledged million's into the club, it's time the board opened their wallet's and give the long suffering fan's a team to be proud of. We are fed up getting journey men that are average at best, wearing our famous maroon jerseys ,  we can't just hope that Tony Bloom comes on board, the Hearts board should be held to account for the playing squad , Shankland or no Shankland  we should have had at least two other strikers above the quality of ,Boyce ,Forrest Mckay and Oda ,  ready to play and be major players in the squad ,we've shot ourselves in the foot relying on just one man to score the goals for our troubled club, we should never be in the position we find ourselves in ,  IF   Bloom comes on board that will be great , but what if he doesn't come until summer ,have we got a board that will splash the cash to save us from a relegation dog fight with Hibs  ? ..... I really hope they do  , but all Hearts fans should be really  worried because i have serious doubts they will treat  our position in the league as a major disaster in waiting .

The board don't decide what positions are signed. That's the managers job. 

[GBJambo]

Just now, Gmcjambo said:

The level of donations has already been of the scale though, are you expecting more? 

Yep but nothing to really show for it though . 

We are below average and wasted on so many shite players 

[mr fox]

Want to see better players on the pitch and stop wasting money on other things.

The academy produces nothing much for what we put into it.

Not really interested in the woman’s team we are mismanaging money.

The benefactor,European money and FOH contributions and we have no decent strikers or wingers in the first team.

Its actually unacceptable now time heads were removed from the board for me.

 

[Silvery_Moon]

10 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

The board don't decide what positions are signed. That's the managers job. 

No but ultimately as in any business the buck stops at the top - for Heart of Midlothian Football Club that is the board. All signings have been made by personnel that the board have appointed so they rightly are to blame for the mess we are in.

 

Doctor Budge was happy to parade the Championship trophy when we won it in 2015. She may get her 3rd 'title' next season the way things are going.

[1953]

2 minutes ago, mr fox said:

Want to see better players on the pitch and stop wasting money on other things.

The academy produces nothing much for what we put into it.

Not really interested in the woman’s team we are mismanaging money.

The benefactor,European money and FOH contributions and we have no decent strikers or wingers in the first team.

Its actually unacceptable now time heads were removed from the board for me.

 

Do you seriously want the board to start picking the players we sign. That's the manager's job, and the fact that we are short in the goalscoring department is down to Naesmith. 

[Sherbet]

4 minutes ago, Silvery_Moon said:

No but ultimately as in any business the buck stops at the top - for Heart of Midlothian Football Club that is the board. All signings have been made by personnel that the board have appointed so they rightly are to blame for the mess we are in.

 

Doctor Budge was happy to parade the Championship trophy when we won it in 2015. She may get her 3rd 'title' next season the way things are going.

No way this team would win the championship

[Pasquale for King]

Its time for all the available cash to be used towards the 1st team to get the Bloom deal up and running. It really needs to be prioritised in January or we going down again.

[gwd1957]

3 minutes ago, 1953 said:

Do you seriously want the board to start picking the players we sign. That's the manager's job, and the fact that we are short in the goalscoring department is down to Naesmith. 

Mad Vlad had an eye for a good player .

[Pilmuir]

21 minutes ago, Gmcjambo said:

The level of donations has already been of the scale though, are you expecting more? 

Not sure how much James Anderson has donated but it must be more than £30 million (someone on here will know) so I’m not sure we can question how much the board has put in. The issue is how the money has been spent and how, despite the massive investment, we are joint bottom of the league.

[GinRummy]

7 minutes ago, Sherbet said:

No way this team would win the championship

If we get relegated it won’t be the same team. 

[1953]

1 minute ago, gwd1957 said:

Mad Vlad had an eye for a good player .

Perhaps he did, but he's not here now. Does anybody on the current board have an eye for a good player? The board got rid of Naesmith and appointed the guy who they think can do a better job so all we can do is let him get on with it and get behind him. 

[gwd1957]

8 minutes ago, 1953 said:

Perhaps he did, but he's not here now. Does anybody on the current board have an eye for a good player? The board got rid of Naesmith and appointed the guy who they think can do a better job so all we can do is let him get on with it and get behind him. 

Lets hope so.

[gwd1957]

40 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

Where's this money coming from? 

£3.295m from European money so far .!!!!

[siegementality]

6 minutes ago, gwd1957 said:

£3.295m from European money so far .!!!!

A McK stated that the cash from competing and two European wins were already included in the budget for this year, and any European money made above that could be used for new players 

[gar jambo]

3 hours ago, gwd1957 said:

Hearts fans have pledged million's into the club, it's time the board opened their wallet's and give the long suffering fan's a team to be proud of. We are fed up getting journey men that are average at best, wearing our famous maroon jerseys ,  we can't just hope that Tony Bloom comes on board, the Hearts board should be held to account for the playing squad , Shankland or no Shankland  we should have had at least two other strikers above the quality of ,Boyce ,Forrest Mckay and Oda ,  ready to play and be major players in the squad ,we've shot ourselves in the foot relying on just one man to score the goals for our troubled club, we should never be in the position we find ourselves in ,  IF   Bloom comes on board that will be great , but what if he doesn't come until summer ,have we got a board that will splash the cash to save us from a relegation dog fight with Hibs  ? ..... I really hope they do  , but all Hearts fans should be really  worried because i have serious doubts they will treat  our position in the league as a major disaster in waiting .

Well said pal! peopledont like the truth our fans don't deserve this one bit! 

[Andi33]

2 hours ago, Sherbet said:

No way this team would win the championship

Yea they will Robbie will be back 

[mr fox]

5 hours ago, 1953 said:

Do you seriously want the board to start picking the players we sign. That's the manager's job, and the fact that we are short in the goalscoring department is down to Naesmith. 

We are wasting money away from better players on pointless projects. 

[jamboinglasgow]

5 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Agm going to be interesting next Wednesday 

 

The board will be hoping for a great result against Aberdeen on Sunday, otherwise it could be a repeat of last years AGM.

[Gorgiewave]

Sell: Shankland, Vargas, Ann's yacht.

[rocketman19]

58 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

The board will be hoping for a great result against Aberdeen on Sunday, otherwise it could be a repeat of last years AGM.

It's bizarre that as our turnover increases and wages increase we in worse situation ! Manager was held accountable and lost his job but when does people making decisions upstairs start being held accountable ?

[Hectormasson]

4 hours ago, gar jambo said:

Well said pal! peopledont like the truth our fans don't deserve this one bit! 

ditto... well put and true  🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻

[merseyjambo]

11 hours ago, davemclaren said:

The board don't decide what positions are signed. That's the managers job. 

No, but it should be their job to ask questions of recruitment that the fans can’t. 

One of which should have been To both the manager and recruitment team when Tagawa was sold, who are you replacing him with. The board are in the risk management business and there should have been foresight. No one expected Shankland’s form to fall off a cliff but IMO there should always be questions/planning for someone as valuable to the team as Shankland was, do we have a Plan B if he picks up a long term injury because from what we can see, you’re looking to replace him with a player that has barely kicked a ball in the last 2 seasons or 2 untried kids.

 

Ultimately Shankland’s lack of goals cost the manager his job, but there is blame to be attached to the board and recruitment department for their lack of questioning to the manager around how his goals would be replaced should anything happen to him after the window shut.

 

[Ribble]

1 hour ago, merseyjambo said:

No, but it should be their job to ask questions of recruitment that the fans can’t. 

One of which should have been To both the manager and recruitment team when Tagawa was sold, who are you replacing him with. The board are in the risk management business and there should have been foresight. No one expected Shankland’s form to fall off a cliff but IMO there should always be questions/planning for someone as valuable to the team as Shankland was, do we have a Plan B if he picks up a long term injury because from what we can see, you’re looking to replace him with a player that has barely kicked a ball in the last 2 seasons or 2 untried kids.

 

Ultimately Shankland’s lack of goals cost the manager his job, but there is blame to be attached to the board and recruitment department for their lack of questioning to the manager around how his goals would be replaced should anything happen to him after the window shut.

 

So the non-football background board quiz Naismith when Tagawa is sold and Naismith says ‘Shankland will primarily play as the lone striker in a 4231, Vargas is showing promise and if he continues to develop is Shanklands heir apparent, I want to give James Wilson more minutes this season and Boyce is an experienced backup so I’d rather bring in players in other positions’ what do you expect the non-football background board to respond to that?

[1971fozzy]

 

14 hours ago, gwd1957 said:

Hearts fans have pledged million's into the club, it's time the board opened their wallet's and give the long suffering fan's a team to be proud of. We are fed up getting journey men that are average at best, wearing our famous maroon jerseys ,  we can't just hope that Tony Bloom comes on board, the Hearts board should be held to account for the playing squad , Shankland or no Shankland  we should have had at least two other strikers above the quality of ,Boyce ,Forrest Mckay and Oda ,  ready to play and be major players in the squad ,we've shot ourselves in the foot relying on just one man to score the goals for our troubled club, we should never be in the position we find ourselves in ,  IF   Bloom comes on board that will be great , but what if he doesn't come until summer ,have we got a board that will splash the cash to save us from a relegation dog fight with Hibs  ? ..... I really hope they do  , but all Hearts fans should be really  worried because i have serious doubts they will treat  our position in the league as a major disaster in waiting .

 

[1971fozzy]

13 hours ago, Pilmuir said:

Not sure how much James Anderson has donated but it must be more than £30 million (someone on here will know) so I’m not sure we can question how much the board has put in. The issue is how the money has been spent and how, despite the massive investment, we are joint bottom of the league.

and borrowing another £7m

mental

[Agentjambo]

14 hours ago, hughesie27 said:

Where's this money coming from? 

Are we skint?

[hmfc1440]

3 hours ago, Ribble said:

So the non-football background board quiz Naismith when Tagawa is sold and Naismith says ‘Shankland will primarily play as the lone striker in a 4231, Vargas is showing promise and if he continues to develop is Shanklands heir apparent, I want to give James Wilson more minutes this season and Boyce is an experienced backup so I’d rather bring in players in other positions’ what do you expect the non-football background board to respond to that?

"Non-football background Board": THEREIN LIES THE "BIG ISSUE". & Zero clarity on who is ultimately accountable for overall football ops - everyone seems to dodge this bullet. In the modern era you will not get away with that. Crikey! A DOF was appointed at Fester Rd. & even with that title he is able to dodge clarity on his position. Get this role established & find some Boardroom football experience - this is the Board's responsibility & accountability. For the record this topic has been an ongoing discussion for approximately 10 years - why in the world when you are spending fortunes on players would you not ensure these specific roles were in place consistently?? ESTABLISHED LEADERS for an ESTABLISHED FC.

[Nerja Jambo]

17 hours ago, Silvery_Moon said:

No but ultimately as in any business the buck stops at the top - for Heart of Midlothian Football Club that is the board. All signings have been made by personnel that the board have appointed so they rightly are to blame for the mess we are in.

 

Doctor Budge was happy to parade the Championship trophy when we won it in 2015. She may get her 3rd 'title' next season the way things are going.

Said it many times on here, the buck stops at the top in any business and that is our board. The vast majority of stuff they have got right, but the football disasters they have overseen by continually going for the cheap and easy option has cost us an untold amount. This is actually the first time I feel that they now appreciate that you get what you pay for and that we should not be used as a training ground for coaches and that mistake is on the board.

[merseyjambo]

6 hours ago, Ribble said:

So the non-football background board quiz Naismith when Tagawa is sold and Naismith says ‘Shankland will primarily play as the lone striker in a 4231, Vargas is showing promise and if he continues to develop is Shanklands heir apparent, I want to give James Wilson more minutes this season and Boyce is an experienced backup so I’d rather bring in players in other positions’ what do you expect the non-football background board to respond to that?

Ultimately the board are responsible for all goings on at the football club. The buck stops with them, be it the commercial side or the footballing side.

 

The manager says that to me, my response is - so if Lawrence does his ACL in on 5th September, are Vargas and an untried 17 year old going to be enough to keep us competitive towards the top end of the table until January????? And if no one on the board asked that question well some real question marks need asked of them.

 

While Shankland hasn’t done his ACL, his form is similar to him not being in the team and we have no options. 

Edited November 30, 2024 by merseyjambo

[davemclaren]

11 minutes ago, merseyjambo said:

Ultimately the board are responsible for all goings on at the football club. The buck stops with them, be it the commercial side or the footballing side.

 

The manager says that to me, my response is - so if Lawrence does his ACL in on 5th September, are Vargas and an untried 17 year old going to be enough to keep us competitive towards the top end of the table until January????? And if no one on the board asked that question well some real question marks need asked of them.

 

While Shankland hasn’t done his ACL, his form is similar to him not being in the team and we have no options. 

The board is indeed accountable for everything at the football club.  How do you know that the board didn't ask any of those type of questions? 

[merseyjambo]

5 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

The board is indeed accountable for everything at the football club.  How do you know that the board didn't ask any of those type of questions? 

No one knows whether they did or didn’t but there has to be accountability there in terms of how we are performing and how we allowed ourselves to get into a position where we are lacking options that is so crucial to a football club.

[The Treasurer]

8 minutes ago, merseyjambo said:

No one knows whether they did or didn’t but there has to be accountability there in terms of how we are performing and how we allowed ourselves to get into a position where we are lacking options that is so crucial to a football club.

The manager is responsible for the playing side of the club.

The fact that Naismith lost his job due to poor results would suggest a fairly high level of accountability 

[Lone Striker]

5 minutes ago, merseyjambo said:

No one knows whether they did or didn’t but there has to be accountability there in terms of how we are performing and how we allowed ourselves to get into a position where we are lacking options that is so crucial to a football club.

I think we all agree that not signing a couple of new forwards in the summer was  major mistake - but how much blame for that lies with the Board is unknown.  Naismith was quoted as saying we didn't need to sign anybody else, and then let Kirk go and sold Tagawa.  I'd put money on the likelihood of someone on the Board having quizzed him to explain that - but he was the man in charge of football stuff after Joe left, so I'm not sure what else the Board were meant to do.

 

Naismith paid the price ultimately.       

 

 Imagine if/when Bloom becomes a significant minority shareholder (possibly even a Board member) .... and we're still sh1te even after signing 2 or 3  of his recommended players.   Things become rather awkward.