Bonnyrigg Rose deducted 6 points

[Tommy Brown]

Just released.

 

For the slope on their pitch 

 

https://spfl.co.uk/news

[davemclaren]

1 minute ago, Tommy Brown said:

Just released.

 

For the slope on their pitch 

 

https://spfl.co.uk/news

Seems very harsh.  

[Tommy Brown]

Bonnyrigg Rose FC has today received a six-point deduction following an SPFL Disciplinary Tribunal into SPFL Rule breaches, which were admitted by the club.

In September 2024, the Scottish FA downgraded Bonnyrigg Rose FC’s overall Club Licence award from Bronze level to Entry level, due to the gradient of the pitch at the club’s New Dundas Park.

It is an SPFL Rule that all clubs must have a Bronze level Scottish FA Club Licence and Bonnyrigg Rose FC were therefore charged with a breach of SPFL Rules.

At a hearing today (Tuesday 12 November, 2024) an SPFL Disciplinary Tribunal imposed the following sanctions for the Club’s failure to maintain a Bronze level Licence:

(i) The club was reprimanded and warned as to their future conduct;

(ii) The club was deducted six points with immediate effect; and

(iii) The club was directed that no later than 31 January, 2025 it provides details to the SPFL Board of the funding arrangements and programme of works to allow the club to undertake pitch levelling works in Summer 2025.

[Kalamazoo Jambo]

Wow. Things have really gone downhill for them lately.

[Malinga the Swinga]

Very lucky they weren't punted out of league as they don't meet minimum requirement.

[davemclaren]

1 minute ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said:

Wow. Things have really gone downhill for them lately.

Rumour is that they have to find £250k to level their pitch.  Can't see that happening. 

[Italian Lambretta]

Ahh never mind at least Kilmarnock has a perfectly good pitch for the SPFL

[poultry]

So the authorities have just realised ?  FFS ridiculous.

[Kalamazoo Jambo]

3 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Rumour is that they have to find £250k to level their pitch.  Can't see that happening. 

From the club statement:  “Ws are expecting a quote and plan of works from contractors imminently, however we expect the costs of this to be in excess of six figures i.e. over £100k”.

 

So, you may not be too far off the mark.

[davemclaren]

4 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said:

Ahh never mind at least Kilmarnock has a perfectly good pitch for the SPFL

Indeed. 

[Disco Dave]

Presumably there were promises made to rectify by now or some kind of temporary waiver which has expired.  Otherwise this seems incredibly harsh.

[Carter]

Having attended games at New Dundas Park it is very noticeable. Shouldn't this have been addressed when they were to admitted to the league. Seems unduly harsh and particularly slow to culminate in this outcome. 

[indianajones]

Easter Road springs to mind. 

[Swanny17]

Motherwell should be deducted points too - the side to side slope on their pitch is an embarrassment. 

[gordon simpson]

our game in Scotland dying a slow death ,and those tossers at the SFA are helping kill it off 

[Boris5115]

Spartans old City Park pitch had some slope on it back in the day. 

[Francis Albert]

Just now, indianajones said:

Easter Road springs to mind. 

Indeed. Don't know if it is now level but they got away with the famous slope for ...a century or more?

[Boris5115]

Just now, gordon simpson said:

our game in Scotland dying a slow death ,and those tossers at the SFA are helping kill it off 

Correct. Scottish football is run by dinosaurs who are killing the game. 

[Stanley_]

Seems a strange one.

 

1) Why were they given a bronze licence in the first place if the slope has always been there?

2) Premiership teams are required to have a silver licence for their ground but Dundee only have bronze. Will they be deducted points too?

3) Clyde are in League Two and don't even have their own ground. Separate argument, of course, but not particularly fair.

[LondonHearts]

New bit of SQL to update our League Table Data


CASE
    WHEN team='inverness caledonian thistle' THEN sum(points)-15
     WHEN team='Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic' THEN sum(points)-6
    ELSE sum(points)
END AS points

[Star Lizard]

****ing hell . But aye cool to ***** about on Astro turf or a tattie field ken 

[jamboj]

11 minutes ago, Carter said:

Having attended games at New Dundas Park it is very noticeable. Shouldn't this have been addressed when they were to admitted to the league. Seems unduly harsh and particularly slow to culminate in this outcome. 

It is awful when you see it in person. Bizarre that league football is played on it 

[Star Lizard]

Best way to kill grass is from the roots up . Scottish football authorities ken their onions when it comes to killing Scottish football . They should probably fine them too and use the cash for the Christmas night oot

[PaddysBar]

They should get extra points for the quality of their pies to compensate😀

[DG_HMFC]

Does Tannadice not have a bit of a slope as well?

[Jambos dad]

13 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

Indeed. Don't know if it is now level but they got away with the famous slope for ...a century or more?

That's the first thing I thought too and also Fir park as Swanny17 just mentioned.

[periodictabledancer]

Great governance. 

How could they be admitted in the first place if they were non compliant. 

[Star Lizard]

22 minutes ago, indianajones said:

Easter Road springs to mind. 

Bonnyrigg should bring out a shite top with a slanty line on it and lie about it being dedicated to their slope 

[Gizmo]

2 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

Bonnyrigg should bring out a shite top with a slanty line on it and lie about it being dedicated to their slope 

Only after simultaneously denying it exists and claiming it as some sort of advantage if the team came out second half shooting down the slope.

And the top being an off-the-peg job and not customised for said club in any shape or form, either. 
 
Tinpot. 

Edited November 12, 2024 by Gizmo

[Taffin]

Ridiculous given some of the awful pitches they allow in the top league.

[Footballfirst]

9 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said:

Great governance. 

How could they be admitted in the first place if they were non compliant. 

You only needed an "entry" level licence when Rose joined the SPFL. Despite that they were previously awarded a bronze licence.  The SPFL changed the minimum requirement to a bronze licence a year ago, but gave several clubs a period of grace to achieve that level (Airdrie, Cove, Kelty Peterhead and Edinburgh City).

 

This is the requirement for Rose to meet.

 

Edited November 12, 2024 by Footballfirst

[XB52]

30 minutes ago, Swanny17 said:

Motherwell should be deducted points too - the side to side slope on their pitch is an embarrassment. 

Motherwell reduced the slope by half when they put in their hybrid pitch. No idea why they couldn't make it level. Hibs fixed theirs years ago

[maroonsgotop]

57 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

Just released.

 

For the slope on their pitch 

 

https://spfl.co.uk/news

maybe they should have installed a crappy plastic pitch which is clearly deemed acceptable to the powers to be

[Mikey1874]

1 minute ago, maroonsgotop said:

maybe they should have installed a crappy plastic pitch which is clearly deemed acceptable to the powers to be

 

That was indeed their plan. But delays to that have caused the problem and they have gone back to working to levelling the grass pitch. STV say £120,000.

[John Findlay]

Dens Park anyone?

[Harry Potter]

3 minutes ago, maroonsgotop said:

maybe they should have installed a crappy plastic pitch which is clearly deemed acceptable to the powers to be

aye, seems to work for some.

[Niemi’s gloves]

It’s the little things that raise questions about the governance of Scottish football. Take the table in the rules posted by @Footballfirst. Apparently to get a Silver licence you need to have only half the end-to-end slope permitted for a bronze licence (and half as much again for a gold licence). But when it comes to side-to-side slope, you can have just as much slope for a Silver licence as for a Bronze. It’s almost as if they write the rules to benefit certain clubs while doing down others. 

[Morgan]

1 hour ago, indianajones said:

Easter Road springs to mind. 

Not as quickly as it sprung to @Star Lizard‘s mind though.

 

I reckon he types the words ‘Hibs’ and ‘Easter Road’ about 50 times more, per day, than he types ‘Hearts’ and ‘Tynecastle’.

 

👀🤷🏿‍♂️

 

 

[Star Lizard]

1 minute ago, Morgan said:

Not as quickly as it sprung to @Star Lizard‘s mind though.

 

I reckon he types the words ‘Hibs’ and ‘Easter Road’ about 50 times more, per day, than he types ‘Hearts’ and ‘Tynecastle’.

 

👀🤷🏿‍♂️

 

 

Sorry Morgan , I will keep it to gushing over Harry Kane in future  

[Randy Marsh]

There is only one League 2 chairman on the SPFL board this season.  Just happens to be from Clyde who are currently joint bottom of the table and in danger of losing their league status.  Reeks a bit like the Brechin chairman during covid.

[john thomas]

24 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Dens Park anyone?

Are you referring to the pitch or the ... 'stadium' ?

Last time I was there was a pre season friendly. Couldn't believe the actual state of the place .

Any other premises open to the public , pub etc , in that condition would be closed immediately 

[kila]

SPFL creating space for Rangers MK III?

 

 

[Penrices left boot]

The authorities dealing with the big issues affecting our game and being pro active as usual.

 

[heartsfc_fan]

Seems harsh. It's not like they are new to that league.

 

Why has it not been picked up on earlier?

 

Have they chose to ignore a warning or is this an out of the blue deduction?

[Footballfirst]

Pyros OK, Sectarian chants OK, Political banners OK, Ban visiting fans OK, Incomplete building works OK.

 

Pitch slope too much to meet new rules introduced last season - 6 point deduction 

[Footballfirst]

This is an extract of a statement Bonnyrigg put out following their AGM a couple of weeks ago.

 

New Dundas Park is a 52 week a year operation, with ongoing costs, including ground maintenance and player salaries during the closed periods. Our hope is that our supporters understand that due to playing in unfunded leagues for over a century at a ground that we own and are completely responsible for, that there continues to be a balancing act between ensuring there is a competitive squad on the pitch whilst having to spend a significant proportion of revenue generated on ground improvements.

We continue to play catch up with the other clubs in the league within a competitive environment and where the SPFL eligibility criteria has become even stricter. We are proud of our achievements and despite all the odds, we are competing well in the professional league and remain committed to doing so in the future.

During the AGM we gave an update relating to our pitch and licence. Currently our pitch gradient does not meet the bronze level requirement for the SPFL. Following professional advice and in partnership with the Community Club, our ambition was to replace the grass at NDP with a synthetic surface. Changing the pitch surface became our focus, rather than levelling the pitch, as levelling was identified as being a wasted investment and unnecessary additional time and effort given the opportunity to obtain funding to change the surface as part of our club and community development ambitions.

The rationale behind the change of surface was to enable and support local grass roots football, in partnership with The Bonnyrigg Rose Community Club, as well as delivering a positive impact to the local economy & wider community. As an example, and for clarity, the Bonnyrigg Rose Community Club has an extensive waiting list of children keen to play football but who are unable to do so due to lack of space and resources. An artificial surface at New Dundas Park would go some way to enable those children to play, provide a new pipeline of potential talent for the future as well as enabling the ground to become a 7 day a week operational business, creating jobs within the local community and creating revenue for the club and local economy.

Unfortunately, due to factors outside of our control both with central DCMS funding delays and following ground surveying works we have been unable to progress as we would have liked with the resurfacing works. As a result the licensing board have downgraded our licence from Bronze to Entry level. As such our focus has changed and we will now be working hard towards levelling the pitch in advance of the 2025/26 season. To achieve this, we need your help.

Firstly, we need to raise the funds to complete the levelling & drainage requirements. We are expecting a quote and plan of works from contractors imminently, however we expect the costs of this to be in excess of 6 figures i.e. over £100k. To help us fund this operation, as there is no central fund available for this, we have set up a just giving page where we would invite you, where you are able, to donate. You can donate directly here Bonnyrigg Rose Levelling Fund. This will also be shared via social media, and we would ask for your to like and share, far and wide.

[ollie2004]

1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Very lucky they weren't punted out of league as they don't meet minimum requirement.

Neither did Sevco!

[tazhearts]

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/stephen-reid-4?utm_term=RZ2KbBrmA&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1PaiOcGAxWLZ5MOY6XOhXZKOiy4nSGIf2l0DsaNBYhmuh2_unyq47exqs_aem_BC0hHmCSh1dtRId1Jb0hCQ

[Footballfirst]

What sanction did a couple of Premiership clubs receive for flagrantly ignoring the rules?

 

 

[Sarah O]

Good to see them tackling the big issues in Scottish football