MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, gordon simpson said: the least she could expect from us before putting in the finances to save our team really ? Fergus Mccann and plenty others seem to have managed to risk their own money / money they have raised without being paid by the fans normally for the love of the club the tradition of the club and what it means to the community Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, martoon said: Start a policy of appointing the best head coach we can, within our budget, and all this melts away. Stendel aside, we haven't done that post admin and that was a farce from day one. I mean to say, getting his predecessor to meet him off the plane and show him around. 😳 😕 It's my only gripe with Ann. Every other club appoints the best coaching team they possibly can but not Hearts. It's holding us back. Absolutely! CEO, manager of hospitality, manager of club shop , manager of hotel all experienced with a track record so why not the football coaching team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawheed Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 44 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: She is here because she gets a lot out of it. She loves the control, attention and plaudits. I also believe her intentions are self motivated. I remember singing her name at the start and meeting her at EDI airport and blowing smoke up her arse. It took me iirc about 2 years to realise she is a ***** and a fraud. The fact that she is still here stinking out the joint when really she has no reason to be should be the red flag that clinches it. No one talking about the fiasco of getting a family member to build the stand without it going out to tender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: really ? Fergus Mccann and plenty others seem to have managed to risk their own money / money they have raised without being paid by the fans normally for the love of the club the tradition of the club and what it means to the community Aye Fergus done it for the love of the club and the local community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, cazzyy said: Wow!! What a revelation that is. You could have said that the club would have died had it not been for the financial backing from the fans enabling Ann Budge to stump up the necessary money to save it. Source: Queen Ann herself. my original statement was true so what does your suggestion materially add ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Just when you think JKB is getting a bit sensible and debate on the whole is reasonably balanced yer man fae Selkirk hoys in this whopper of a thread. Howling at the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 It would be nice if she left on a high but I don't see that high coming any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Just now, Des Lynam said: Aye Fergus done it for the love of the club and the local community. yup fair point - he still didn’t do it conditional on the fans paying him back - nor did plenty others he was a very successful man though ? He could have turned around plenty businesses for profit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Absolutely! CEO, manager of hospitality, manager of club shop , manager of hotel all experienced with a track record so why not the football coaching team? It's a post I've repeated a few times but only because it's so obvious. Hearts cannot, or will not, do it though. So frustrating, bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 9 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Absolutely! CEO, manager of hospitality, manager of club shop , manager of hotel all experienced with a track record so why not the football coaching team? I will agree with you on appointing an experienced manager/head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 12 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: really ? Fergus Mccann and plenty others seem to have managed to risk their own money / money they have raised without being paid by the fans normally for the love of the club the tradition of the club and what it means to the community aye and wee Fergus got hounded by the fcukn bams at the tattiedrome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Without her input this is a historical site Yes WE saved the club but without her we wouldn’t have been able to I totally agree about the football TEAM needing to be the focus now though No more experiments No more “Best candidate was here all along” We’ve tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Point is their was argument yesterday within our support with one group claiming Mrs Budge pumps money into the club and another group saying like I'm saying every penny she's put in she's got back plus interest Makes more sense now you have said that. Thought it was a random thing to start on about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawheed Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, 19/05/2012 said: Budge has done a lot for our club but she has served her purpose and should have moved on a few years ago. The club has become too nice and comfortable. We need someone with a bit more ambition to take over now 100% but going no where unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 15 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Aye Fergus done it for the love of the club and the local community. 🤣☘️🤣 wee Canadian cant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedarmy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 The bowling club must have opened early today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, tedarmy said: The bowling club must have opened early today The howling club has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedarmy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Just now, lost in space said: The howling club has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 5 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said: Makes more sense now you have said that. Thought it was a random thing to start on about. there was also one of the usual bootlickers talking about the money she puts into the club on another thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 I think shes Ms Budge as shes not married. There’s another myth. ps did anyone know she has a Psychology degree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Point is unlike you I was at the game instead of sitting posting on a fans forum goodman, never been back there since 2007 , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 There’s a lot of good points on this thread apart from the one about Stendel being a decent manager. An utterly disastrous appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Ahhhhhhhh the old @Selkirkhmfc1874 Sunday morning car crash thread has returned. Welcome back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lizard Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: She is here because she gets a lot out of it. She loves the control, attention and plaudits. I also believe her intentions are self motivated. I remember singing her name at the start and meeting her at EDI airport and blowing smoke up her arse. It took me iirc about 2 years to realise she is a ***** and a fraud. The fact that she is still here stinking out the joint when really she has no reason to be should be the red flag that clinches it. Dear lord !!!! Irony metre has just exploded and taken half of Midlothian with it . Just wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 2 hours ago, JamboAl said: You don't know what money she has put in as I'm sure the club benefits from anonymous donations. She has however put in many UNPAID "man hours" which have helped to turn this club round. She'll never get these hours back. What have you done? Has her family enjoyed many paid hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lizard Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 But ur bruvur us Hubz ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti VAR Association Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 (edited) . Edited September 15 by Anti VAR Association Pointless debate. Good and bad Budge involvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazzyy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: my original statement was true so what does your suggestion materially add ? It takes away the emphasis that it would be her that was letting the club die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, Anti VAR Association said: Budge bailed us out when nobody else would and transformed the club in the early years. That can never be forgotten or unappreciated. She brought in benefactors which may never have happened under a different set up. She has also had all her money back and more including her wider family have benefited hugely from her connection with the club not least the main stand project. I remember the pitch shambles after the film festival thing, that was ALL down to her desire to suck up to the luvies in the art sector and people who were near her that evening said she looked like a fish out of water. She gave Tynecastle faculty to them for free. She won’t seem to give up power and STILL has all the influence at boardroom level. Why? Has to be self interest and vanity. It’s not for the good of the club anymore. The FOH are now free money for her to influence where it is spent now. Her influence on managerial appointments appears to remain. Zero trophies to show for it as well. Good post, i think shes maybe worried about retirement and not having the daily routine and something to do. Most of us would find other stuff to do with all that money in the bank, time for her to enjoy the fruits of her labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lizard Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 This thread is absolutely identical in subject matter to the other thread about the board . Should they not just be merged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Des Lynam said: Let’s be honest there is and always will be a section of our male support unhappy we are run by a woman. nail on the head. It’s tragic and unhealthy. utterly brutal thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazzyy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 4 minutes ago, Sooks said: This thread is absolutely identical in subject matter to the other thread about the board . Should they not just be merged Probably, but it does give the frothers a chance to double up their post count which makes them much more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 17 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said: Has her family enjoyed many paid hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 13 minutes ago, cazzyy said: It takes away the emphasis that it would be her that was letting the club die. Queen Ann had the means to save hearts irrespective of contributions from the fans - had the fans not agreed to contribute she would have let the club die i don’t blame her but that’s how it was as it was the fans did agree to contribute and also had a recent track record of raising over £1M over a few days in vlad fake shares so it wasn’t just a fanciful very high risk transaction to rely on the fans backing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lizard Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 10 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: nail on the head. It’s tragic and unhealthy. utterly brutal thread Definitely some misogyny involved for some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 9 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: nail on the head. It’s tragic and unhealthy. utterly brutal thread thank god we have a woman running the show as all the guys who have gone before filled their pockets and left us in the shit FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 3 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: I am and have been one of Mrs Budge biggest backers and still am but this myth among some within our support that Mrs Budge has put money into the football club is a complete myth , she originally bought the shares but was paid every penny back plus interest , any loans she has gave to the football club she has been paid back plus interest , yes she worked running the football club day to day for free other than travel expenses but she hasn't put a single penny into the football club she hasn't got back. The bit in bold is clearly a lie given that the rest of your post is just an outright attempt to stir up resentment against her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 3 hours ago, Scott Leitch said: Not sure the point of this? Shitstirring is the point of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 3 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: The bit in bold is clearly a lie given that the rest of your post is just an outright attempt to stir up resentment against her! Absolute rubbish! Because you disagree with me it's an attempt to stir up resentment against Mrs Budge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Extremely capable and successful businesswoman but she has learnt nothing about football over the past ten years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Anyone who has been here 10 years, and isn’t simply pouring millions into the club, will attract some criticism from fans. Like others have said, I think the main mistake is not appointing the right coaching team - the obsession with bringing new coaches through from internally has been a hinderance with the resources we have. And the cornerz remain unfilled. Boo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 3 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: I am and have been one of Mrs Budge biggest backers and still am but this myth among some within our support that Mrs Budge has put money into the football club is a complete myth , she originally bought the shares but was paid every penny back plus interest , any loans she has gave to the football club she has been paid back plus interest , yes she worked running the football club day to day for free other than travel expenses but she hasn't put a single penny into the football club she hasn't got back. We owe her everything. The whole survival of the club is down to her. But I really think she shouldn't be calling the shots any longer. The discontent is growing among the fans, and it would be sad if all the goodwill went pear shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 10 minutes ago, Section Q said: We owe her everything. The whole survival of the club is down to her. But I really think she shouldn't be calling the shots any longer. The discontent is growing among the fans, and it would be sad if all the goodwill went pear shaped. We absolutely owe Mrs Budge an awful lot and that should never be forgot , when the time does come she leaves she'll leave having left the club in a good financial position and the infrastructure in place to see us stay and thrive in gorgie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Colonel Kurtz said: Has her family enjoyed many paid hours Possibly but I'm sure if they hadn't that someone else would have - so probably no loss/gain there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedBoy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Another ‘look at me’ thread from the border dweller. Tedious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 4 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: I am and have been one of Mrs Budge biggest backers and still am but this myth among some within our support that Mrs Budge has put money into the football club is a complete myth , she originally bought the shares but was paid every penny back plus interest , any loans she has gave to the football club she has been paid back plus interest , yes she worked running the football club day to day for free other than travel expenses but she hasn't put a single penny into the football club she hasn't got back. So apart from putting in her own money, when no one else would, working for the club for free and bringing in other investment and benefactors, she's done nothing for the club. Is that what you are saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 There’s something decidedly creepy about referring to her as mrs budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 8 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: So apart from putting in her own money, when no one else would, working for the club for free and bringing in other investment and benefactors, she's done nothing for the club. Is that what you are saying It's absolutely not what I'm saying at all , if you read my posts I've said she's done far more good than bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazzyy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: Queen Ann had the means to save hearts irrespective of contributions from the fans - had the fans not agreed to contribute she would have let the club die i don’t blame her but that’s how it was as it was the fans did agree to contribute and also had a recent track record of raising over £1M over a few days in vlad fake shares so it wasn’t just a fanciful very high risk transaction to rely on the fans backing Lots of people, fans included had the means. She was the only one to step forward and I don't think that should be downplayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazzyy Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, gordon simpson said: thank god we have a woman running the show as all the guys who have gone before filled their pockets and left us in the shit FACT Oh but wait, some of her family did paid work. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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