Overturned penalty

[Diadora Van Basten]

Why?

[Baxfee]

Cos it was at parkhead 

[WDJ87]

Answer to that is obvious is it not?

[hearts00]

Probably not a pen but never getting overturned at the other end. 

[Tour22]

Too close to him, with the higher threshold this season I think its the correct decision. Just need to hope that high threshold is held throughout the season.

[Der Kaiser]

Shanks header was also not heading towards goal

[1953]

Last season that was a penalty but the rules seem to have changed now. I doubt the defender could do anything about it. I'm OK with it as long as that's not given at the other end. 

[jambo19]

Penalty was given for handball. It's not a clear and obvious error to then overturn that surely.

 

His arm is up and out in an unnatural position which influences where the ball goes.

 

Add to that they're then given possession is baffling. If that's at the other end it stands

[Diadora Van Basten]

Just now, 1953 said:

Last season that was a penalty but the rules seem to have changed now. I doubt the defender could do anything about it. I'm OK with it as long as that's not given at the other end. 

My understanding is that the rule change from last season was that if the ball would have hit the body anyway it’s not a penalty that is not the case here.

[Morgan]

The game is in Glasgow.

[Scott Leitch]

6 minutes ago, hearts00 said:

Probably not a pen but never getting overturned at the other end. 

This 

[XB52]

It wasn't a penalty, going by the revised handball rules they are using this season. Whether it would have been overruled at the other end is a valid point though

[19/05/2012]

Nothing to see here Celtic and Rangers will get pens for that the rest of the season and no one will bat an eyelid

[Tazio]

6 minutes ago, Der Kaiser said:

Shanks header was also not heading towards goal

It was however going straight to a Hearts player. 

[N Lincs Jambo]

I think we all know we'll be on the receiving end at some point this season and it will go against us, probably against an arse cheek. FWIW I think the ref overall has had a decent game. First player booked was one of them and he was brave enough to give the penalty in the first place. He'll be assigned for some "re-education" no doubt.

[Jeff]

It's not a pen and neither was the incident against Rangers.

 

No conspiracy here

[Diadora Van Basten]

2 minutes ago, N Lincs Jambo said:

I think we all know we'll be on the receiving end at some point this season and it will go against us, probably against an arse cheek. FWIW I think the ref overall has had a decent game. First player booked was one of them and he was brave enough to give the penalty in the first place. He'll be assigned for some "re-education" no doubt.

I think Kyogo should have had a couple of bookings for late challenges.

[BackOfTheNet]

Haven’t seen it but the consensus seems to be that it’s the correct decision and shouldn’t have been a penalty. My only question would then be was the original decision so wrong that it warranted VAR interference? As that’s the big thing that’s meant to have changed, they’re not meant to get involved unless it’s a 100% wrong decision.

 

Listen, if it’s correct then the right thing has been done, but you do wonder how the threshold will be seen under different circumstances.

[Sherbet]

14 minutes ago, Der Kaiser said:

Shanks header was also not heading towards goal

What does that matter

[leith_dude]

Initially thought it was but looking at the replay it appeared to hit him high on the shoulder from very close range.

I'd have been angry if that had been given against us.

[Sherbet]

4 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

I think Kyogo should have had a couple of bookings for late challenges.

Agree   if that had been a Hearts player on Schmeichel def yellow

[BackOfTheNet]

What did I just say about thresholds?

[Jeff]

6 minutes ago, Jeff said:

It's not a pen and neither was the incident against Rangers.

 

No conspiracy here

 

Conspiracy actually 

[N Lincs Jambo]

Well that didn’t take long to find out. Fuming 

[XB52]

12 minutes ago, XB52 said:

It wasn't a penalty, going by the revised handball rules they are using this season. Whether it would have been overruled at the other end is a valid point though

Well there you go

[Whitecapjambo]

Makes you question why we ****ing bother.

[hughesie27]

Ours wasn't. Theirs was.

[No Idle Talk]

For the record, I think it was a penalty for Celtic. But if their one is a penalty then so was our one in the first half. The fact that we didn't get a penalty but they did should surprise nobody. 

 

Corrupt cheating *****. 🤬

[Masonic]

Just now, Whitecapjambo said:

Makes you question why we ****ing bother.

This 💯

[EH11 2NL]

13 minutes ago, Jeff said:

It's not a pen and neither was the incident against Rangers.

 

No conspiracy here

And neither was that one Celtic just got. So what's the difference?

[Jeff]

1 minute ago, EH11 2NL said:

And neither was that one Celtic just got. So what's the difference?

 

I quoted my post dw

[EH11 2NL]

Just now, Jeff said:

 

I quoted my post dw

Ha just noticed 🤣 

[glynnlondon]

Welcome to Glasgow city of culture 1990

[Uncle Buck]

Colin Steven is genuinely the worst ref I’ve ever seen, at any level. Every time we get him something happens. He’s a cheating *****.

[CavySlaveJambo]

6 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

Ours wasn't. Theirs was.

Penrice was moving his arms and turning away from the ball.   

[Penrices left boot]

5 minutes ago, No Idle Talk said:

For the record, I think it was a penalty for Celtic. But if their one is a penalty then so was our one in the first half. The fact that we didn't get a penalty but they did should surprise nobody. 

 

Corrupt cheating *****. 🤬

 

Yip and for VAR to intervene it has to be obvious. 

The idea was to use it less , seems like it is uses or not used depending on the team.

 

Barons one at Tynecastle was 50/50, I was glad they moved away from over turning every decision and givig every ball to hand,  but then this.

 

Different calls at St mirren as well.

 

As usual,  Scottish officials just highlight their incompetence/bias more.

 

I really hate Scottish football at times.

 

 

 

[Dunks]

14 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said:

Colin Steven is genuinely the worst ref I’ve ever seen, at any level. Every time we get him something happens. He’s a cheating *****.

 

Well, he awarded a penalty to us, but not to Celtic, so ....

[merrymac]

16 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said:

Colin Steven is genuinely the worst ref I’ve ever seen, at any level. Every time we get him something happens. He’s a cheating *****.

Tbf to him he gave our penalty and not theirs 

he just didn’t have the courage of his convictions 

he is a sh**e ref though 

[SomethingAboutObua]

Can someone actually find a video, keep seeing folk saying it's the exact same as the one Rangers avoided vs us but yet to see the actual incident 

[joondalupjambo]

36 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:

My only question would then be was the original decision so wrong that it warranted VAR interference? As that’s the big thing that’s meant to have changed, they’re not meant to get involved unless it’s a 100% wrong decision.

So therefore VAR must have thought it was the wrong decision.  This is one reason I do not like VAR because who is referring the game, the Ref or the VAR room?  I actually quite like it for offside checks but for these types of things personal opinion is involved.

[fabienleclerq]

It's a handball for me. 100% gets given at the other end.

[thegreatsd]

3 minutes ago, SomethingAboutObua said:

Can someone actually find a video, keep seeing folk saying it's the exact same as the one Rangers avoided vs us but yet to see the actual incident 

https://x.com/afc1903mad/status/1833896095203946943?s=46&t=ASPD7wl9MN0VrLGZhLsUaw

[Penrices left boot]

1 minute ago, joondalupjambo said:

So therefore VAR must have thought it was the wrong decision.  This is one reason I do not like VAR because who is referring the game, the Ref or the VAR room?  I actually quite like it for offside checks but for these types of things personal opinion is involved.

 

Tbf, the on field ref still gets to make the decision,  var official does not make decisions.

 

 

[MR INCREDIBLE]

It’s time our soft as shit board made a statement about this blatant cheating!

If not the FOH could do it themselves!!

[joondalupjambo]

1 minute ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Tbf, the on field ref still gets to make the decision,  var official does not make decisions.

 

 

Do you know that for sure?  In this instance ref gives a pen, VAR intervention with no idea of what is being said, ref then asked (told?) to go to the monitor, loads more chat we cannot hear when he is reviewing the play, then changes his mind.  Do you think that there is even a slight chance that the Var guy is not influencing the ref with a form of the words being used?  Has to be otherwise the ref would stick to his original decision would be my view.  And I know this is all subjective and all of us will have differring views.  

[Malinga the Swinga]

2 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Tbf, the on field ref still gets to make the decision,  var official does not make decisions.

 

 

VAR is being used to tell the referee by the VAR official that he has made a mistake and needs to correct it.

Our referees are spineless and do what they are told, especially when decision is going to impact against Celtic/Sevco.

We all knew this and today's incidents have provided ample confirmation.

Scottish football really is ****ed beyond redemption.

[Penrices left boot]

Just now, Malinga the Swinga said:

VAR is being used to tell the referee by the VAR official that he has made a mistake and needs to correct it.

Our referees are spineless and do what they are told, especially when decision is going to impact against Celtic/Sevco.

We all knew this and today's incidents have provided ample confirmation.

Scottish football really is ****ed beyond redemption.

 

It's,  not. He's been told to check it.

 

The on field ref makes the call , not var. That's just a fact.

 

Var doesn't over ride the ref.

[hughesie27]

If you think our decision was bad, what till you see the Red Card ST J just got. Ref gives it and VAR stands by his call. Hibs commentators were even saying it was going to be easily overturned.

[escobri]

6 minutes ago, MR INCREDIBLE said:

It’s time our soft as shit board made a statement about this blatant cheating!

If not the FOH could do it themselves!!

Some of the penalty or non penalty decisions against us have been really bad, today was just pure cheating.  Usual silence from the club will be forthcoming no doubt.

[kingantti1874]

55 minutes ago, Jeff said:

It's not a pen and neither was the incident against Rangers.

 

No conspiracy here

why was the penalty against rangers not a penalty.  Without using crap terms like “higher bar” what factor exactly made it not a hand ball