GavK1012 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Stumil said: I'm not sure if this has been shared before - great insight into how analytics is working at Royal USG https://www.scoutednotebook.com/p/modern-renaissance-inside-usg 👍 Here's hoping in a few years someone's posting a link to a Hearts interview with our successful CEO talking about our rags to riches tale 🙌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Rogue Daddy said: Yeah, funny choice of words.... it could mean £250k! 😳 If it's more... why didn't he just say "it's quite a bit more than that." Unfortunately, IMO, it just confirms whoever has leaked this, isn't too far off the mark. Like another poster says, easily sorted, just offer him a new contract - NC certainly appears to rate him. I'd certainly be happy with that. Why would he even consider a new contract, 3 months after signing a new deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 10 minutes ago, The Jackal said: No hearts announcement tho It’ll be interesting to see tomorrow’s formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, OmiyaHearts said: Why would he even consider a new contract, 3 months after signing a new deal? NC may see him as an important factor going forward - and doesn't want to lose him (for peanuts) while we're at the bottom of the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said: Yeah, funny choice of words.... it could mean £250k! 😳 If it's more... why didn't he just say "it's quite a bit more than that." Unfortunately, IMO, it just confirms whoever has leaked this, isn't too far off the mark. Like another poster says, easily sorted, just offer him a new contract - NC certainly appears to rate him. I'd certainly be happy with that. Unless, of course, he wants away.... but I never realy get that impression from Devlin. Because Critchley is media trained and isn't going to just add further speculation to a situation he disagrees with in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lizard Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Your forgetting Halkett. Levein Stendal Neilson Naismith Critchley Ah good shout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, GavK1012 said: 👍 Here's hoping in a few years someone's posting a link to a Hearts interview with our successful CEO talking about our rags to riches tale 🙌 O’Loughlin was an ex player and manager, goes with the current manager to scout players, hes the SD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 9 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: Why would he even consider a new contract, 3 months after signing a new deal? Higher wages probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Pasquale for King said: Higher wages probably. Yep but unless there is any confirmation on this release clause he shouldn’t be getting any wage increase imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 21 minutes ago, The Jackal said: No hearts announcement tho Ffs, NC said yesterday how he hoped the deal would go through, then said oh we could do with him on Sunday. Not many clubs would allow this situation, soft as per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said: Yeah, funny choice of words.... it could mean £250k! 😳 If it's more... why didn't he just say "it's quite a bit more than that." Unfortunately, IMO, it just confirms whoever has leaked this, isn't too far off the mark. Like another poster says, easily sorted, just offer him a new contract - NC certainly appears to rate him. I'd certainly be happy with that. Unless, of course, he wants away.... but I never realy get that impression from Devlin. it's maybe been mentioned earlier in the thread, but - in this case anyway - could the "leak" have come from Cammy's agent, to either alert other clubs that there's a great bargain to be had or to give them a great lever to renegotiate Cammy's contract? I know there have been other leaks recently, so no doubt there is someone employed by the club who hangs around Greggs a lot or is always on the 'phone in the Jolly Judge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Pasquale for King said: Ffs, NC said yesterday how he hoped the deal would go through, then said oh we could do with him on Sunday. Not many clubs would allow this situation, soft as per. 😂 I know you love a dig at the club but Maybe the player had a say ? He isn’t going to risk a 2 year deal to play on Sunday ffs. Nah it will be clubs fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Shanks and Boyce the featured players for January in this year’s calendar. One gone… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, GinRummy said: Shanks and Boyce the featured players for January in this year’s calendar. One gone… These things happen in 3’s. McKay away too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lizard Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Dazo said: 😂 I know you love a dig at the club but Maybe the player had a say ? He isn’t going to risk a 2 year deal to play on Sunday ffs. Nah it will be clubs fault. It is clearly Leveins fault . He is still nefariously pulling the strings in the shadows ……………. ( of the dimmest minds ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duos123 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Shanks and Boyce the featured players for January in this year’s calendar. One gone… Salazar is also gone he's in June or July I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Auld Reekin' said: it's maybe been mentioned earlier in the thread, but - in this case anyway - could the "leak" have come from Cammy's agent, to either alert other clubs that there's a great bargain to be had or to give them a great lever to renegotiate Cammy's contract? I know there have been other leaks recently, so no doubt there is someone employed by the club who hangs around Greggs a lot or is always on the 'phone in the Jolly Judge... Yeah... I think it's probably the agent for the reasons you give - no proof mind you! The next we'll hear from the club will be one of two scenarios (probably) - 1. Cammy has signed an 'improved' deal for 2 years. or 2. Cammy has been sold for an 'undisclosed' sum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Dazo said: These things happen in 3’s. McKay away too ? Not ‘till March according to the calendar. We must just release him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, GinRummy said: Not ‘till March according to the calendar. We must just release him. I think we might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Shanks and Boyce the featured players for January in this year’s calendar. One gone… 😂...my wife got me the Hearts Annual 2025 for Christmas 😶 - introduction and welcome from Steven Naismith😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Ffs, NC said yesterday how he hoped the deal would go through, then said oh we could do with him on Sunday. Not many clubs would allow this situation, soft as per. You want us to start a player who knows he's got a deal going through at FT and expect him to put his body on the line? Are you for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Rogue Daddy said: 😂...my wife got me the Hearts Annual 2025 for Christmas 😶 - introduction and welcome from Steven Naismith😳 Haha, as if we’ve not seen enough of him since he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboM003 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Stumil said: I'm not sure if this has been shared before - great insight into how analytics is working at Royal USG https://www.scoutednotebook.com/p/modern-renaissance-inside-usg Excellent read. Definitely gives an insight to the whole approach and what we might expect in the next couple of years. Has clearly been a massive success and so far sustained. They would have won the top league twice since they were promoted in 21/22 if it were not for the weird play offs they do. They have also made millions from player sales and had to essentially build the squad back up year on year without losing consistency and momentum. Looking at their players you can see the pattern we have been talking about. Some brought in to succeed, move on and make the club money. Others who are more continuity players (like Brighton with the likes of Milner etc). One example jumped out to me. Christian Burgess who was playing for Portsmouth in League 2 in England. They recruited him when they were still in the league below the top league. He is their key centre half performing well in an obviously higher league and in Europe. So a good example of the JTA approach finding players at lower levels that end up being excellent signings that fit with the team and style of play of USG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Duos123 said: Salazar is also gone he's in June or July I think. Out of pure nosiness I’d still like to hear exactly what happened with him. Edited January 11 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknownuser Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 13 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Shanks and Boyce the featured players for January in this year’s calendar. One gone… It's always the same! 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 31 minutes ago, siegementality said: It’ll be interesting to see tomorrow’s formation. Good for Boyce, I'm sure he'll do them a turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 33 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: Why would he even consider a new contract, 3 months after signing a new deal? "No thanks I don't want more money" Doesn't seem likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said: it's maybe been mentioned earlier in the thread, but - in this case anyway - could the "leak" have come from Cammy's agent, to either alert other clubs that there's a great bargain to be had or to give them a great lever to renegotiate Cammy's contract? I know there have been other leaks recently, so no doubt there is someone employed by the club who hangs around Greggs a lot or is always on the 'phone in the Jolly Judge... if its inaccurate why would he leak the wrong amount, surely he should talk to the club about a new deal or got a better contract for his client less than a year ago. Have you seen the wages we pay for utter dross. Edited January 11 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGoodLaugh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 17 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: Not being good and blaming Hearts for not forcing him to sign a different contract with different terms are different things. Oh, and yes signing a player for £30k and immediately putting a release clause in at £10 is too low. Well done on clarifying that, ground breaking stuff, a real " gotcha" moment for you. Cheers mate, feels really good to have your support ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 14 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: You want us to start a player who knows he's got a deal going through at FT and expect him to put his body on the line? Are you for real? Ffs hes a great pro, even Souttar did that. He and Rowles have known for weeks they’re leaving, both have been extremely professional over the last few matches. Or do you think the moves were organised after the Utd game last Sunday 🤔🙄🤣🤦🏽🤪?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Desperately need someone that can hold it and link play with Boyce going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Watching Hearts social media for news updates… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Cruyff said: Desperately need someone that can hold it and link play with Boyce going. Agreed. No one available in that role now and it’s the best we’ve looked for a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hømme Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Cruyff said: Desperately need someone that can hold it and link play with Boyce going. This is an absolute must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, BackOfTheNet said: Watching Hearts social media for news updates… I certainly don't think we were on the same page when announcing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, BM1874 said: https://x.com/derrycityfc/status/1878056974341857479?s=46&t=0B_sF3MRrwkTzZm3URzMyQ boyce gone I like Boyce. Intelligent footballer and he's made a difference this past few games. That said, he will know at his age that his time will be limited at Hearts and this is likely a guarantee of much more playing time at the back end of his career as well as a move back home. I wish him all the very best.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Dazo said: 😂 I know you love a dig at the club but Maybe the player had a say ? He isn’t going to risk a 2 year deal to play on Sunday ffs. Nah it will be clubs fault. Hes under contract ffs, he does what hes told or he’s here until the summer.Im positive he would’ve played if asked. You think the players should just decide when they want to play, or when they’re leaving? You think it was arranged this week, hes been running his heart out these last three games and was needed tomorrow according to Critchley, who is soft as shit, will be manipulated easily by players and it will cost him his job eventually. Edited January 11 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyjamboDerbyshire Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Ffs hes a great pro, even Souttar did that. He and Rowles have known for weeks they’re leaving, both have been extremely professional over the last few matches. Or do you think the moves were organised after the Utd game last Sunday 🤔🙄🤣🤦🏽🤪?!?! I'd imagine most players, if not all, would say to their coach that their heads not in the game so don't play me if they were in the least concerned about injury before a transfer. They all know that a player is just as likely, if not more so, to be injured when not trying as they are when they put everything into the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, AllyjamboDerbyshire said: I'd imagine most players, if not all, would say to their coach that their heads not in the game so don't play me if they were in the least concerned about injury before a transfer. They all know that a player is just as likely, if not more so, to be injured when not trying as they are when they put everything into the game. He hasn’t been worried the last three games, not sure the conversation even took place. Lets hope it doesn’t affect us tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Ffs hes a great pro, even Souttar did that. He and Rowles have known for weeks they’re leaving, both have been extremely professional over the last few matches. Or do you think the moves were organised after the Utd game last Sunday 🤔🙄🤣🤦🏽🤪?!?! Signing a pre contract is a completely different story to signing inside a transfer window. And if Rowles is away what's the hold up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrices left boot Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Why couldn't Boyce leave on Monday, after Aberdeen? I find it just daft to have let him leave before Aberdeen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy head Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, alicante jambo said: Are they due back soon do you know? Hoff? I believe the medical department lost him in a game of poker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Desperately need someone that can hold it and link play with Boyce going. We’ve known for weeks/months what areas we needed to strengthen and what players we wanted to move on. I really hoped we’d been a bit better organised and had more than 2 players lined up and ready to go on 1st January……we’re going into tomorrows match with a 17 year old and a player making his debut despite playing very little football this season. This was always going to be a tough window……but I did expect a bit more to date. Edited January 11 by Drylaw Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboM003 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Still no post by the club on Boyce leaving - I wonder if Admin is busy with something else 🤔🤞🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jambo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, Spongebob said: Still has a year left on his contract and it says he’s worth 1.2 mill ?? Europe money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyjamboDerbyshire Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: He hasn’t been worried the last three games, not sure the conversation even took place. Lets hope it doesn’t affect us tomorrow. I very much doubt the conversation took place, but if Rowles is in the least unsure about committing himself fully to the game I'm sure he'd approach Critchley and ask to be left out. It's the idea that a player would play in a game when afraid to get injured and ruin a lucrative transfer, rather than just tell his boss that he feels that way, as others are suggesting, that we are both countering here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Hopefully we don't opt for square pegs in round holes again. I know Boyce wasn't a major player most of the season but we've looked better with him linking play. I hope we are stronger after the window closes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Why couldn't Boyce leave on Monday, after Aberdeen? I find it just daft to have let him leave before Aberdeen. Especially since DC don’t have a game till 14th Feb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jackal Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Should see Longman in midweek now we’ve opened up free wages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Best place for transfers out news appears to br the club calendar. Always has been btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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