HopeDiouf Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 19 minutes ago, GinRummy said: You may have a point. I just feel like he’s finished at Hearts. Things can change quickly of course but I think his next run of form will be at another club. For me, his next run of form will come after he bangs in a couple tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 Just now, HopeDiouf said: For me, his next run of form will come after he bangs in a couple tonight Here’s hoping 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcjambo Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 The problem with Shanks is that you can't just flick a switch and find form once it's lost - it gets harder to get back on track the longer the rut goes on. I actually think he is trying hard but his confidence is shot to pieces. He's also not the type of player that will age well imo and have a prolonged career at the top as he doens't seem to look after his conditioning well. Think he turns 30 next year, should have a few more years at the top, but will he look after himself well enough to acheive this? I have my doubts. Early on in his career he was at the Sheep, but didn't do well - probably not looking after himself physcally and putting the effort in, the ability is not in question. I think he's talked about this in previous interviews. His career went backwards before moving forwards and he missed a good few years when he should have been on good money. The last two seasons he has returned from preseason and not looked fit - and it's taken him several games to get going, last season was 1 goal in the 1st 8 league games. This season, currently 1 goal in 14 league games but with the added pressure of his last chance to genuinely win a big money contract. I really hope the situation changes otherwise we have torrid number of games coming up, and a very good player's career is going downhill prematurely. I hope I'm wrong, and a couple of goals could well see him back on track, but I do think there is a wider issue that will impact his longevity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Gmcjambo said: The problem with Shanks is that you can't just flick a switch and find form once it's lost - it gets harder to get back on track the longer the rut goes on. I actually think he is trying hard but his confidence is shot to pieces. He's also not the type of player that will age well imo and have a prolonged career at the top as he doens't seem to look after his conditioning well. Think he turns 30 next year, should have a few more years at the top, but will he look after himself well enough to acheive this? I have my doubts. Early on in his career he was at the Sheep, but didn't do well - probably not looking after himself physcally and putting the effort in, the ability is not in question. I think he's talked about this in previous interviews. His career went backwards before moving forwards and he missed a good few years when he should have been on good money. The last two seasons he has returned from preseason and not looked fit - and it's taken him several games to get going, last season was 1 goal in the 1st 8 league games. This season, currently 1 goal in 14 league games but with the added pressure of his last chance to genuinely win a big money contract. I really hope the situation changes otherwise we have torrid number of games coming up, and a very good player's career is going downhill prematurely. I hope I'm wrong, and a couple of goals could well see him back on track, but I do think there is a wider issue that will impact his longevity. My gut feeling is that he'll sign whatever Rangers give him, and he'll be out of there <2 years. Lafferty without the arsehole like behaviour. Doubtful Clement will make the end of the season IMO and I reckon they'll get some UK based manager who will be less Shankland averse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 17 minutes ago, OTT said: My gut feeling is that he'll sign whatever Rangers give him, and he'll be out of there <2 years. Lafferty without the arsehole like behaviour. Doubtful Clement will make the end of the season IMO and I reckon they'll get some UK based manager who will be less Shankland averse. It’s low risk for rangers and he’ll be cheap by their standards. It’s not as if they don’t have other options in their squad and they probably can’t afford to go and pay big money for the type of dynamic, aggressive striker that they really need. Add that to the fact Shankland will want to go there and it’s clear where he’s going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corstorphine Jambo Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 2 hours ago, Gmcjambo said: The problem with Shanks is that you can't just flick a switch and find form once it's lost - it gets harder to get back on track the longer the rut goes on. I actually think he is trying hard but his confidence is shot to pieces. He's also not the type of player that will age well imo and have a prolonged career at the top as he doens't seem to look after his conditioning well. Think he turns 30 next year, should have a few more years at the top, but will he look after himself well enough to acheive this? I have my doubts. Early on in his career he was at the Sheep, but didn't do well - probably not looking after himself physcally and putting the effort in, the ability is not in question. I think he's talked about this in previous interviews. His career went backwards before moving forwards and he missed a good few years when he should have been on good money. The last two seasons he has returned from preseason and not looked fit - and it's taken him several games to get going, last season was 1 goal in the 1st 8 league games. This season, currently 1 goal in 14 league games but with the added pressure of his last chance to genuinely win a big money contract. I really hope the situation changes otherwise we have torrid number of games coming up, and a very good player's career is going downhill prematurely. I hope I'm wrong, and a couple of goals could well see him back on track, but I do think there is a wider issue that will impact his longevity. There seems likely to always be a debate as to whether Shankland's conditioning is what it should be. For what it's worth, I reckon he could slim down a bit. But one very valid point he made in his Evening News interview was that he has missed next to no games over the last couple of years - so that would suggest he's got something right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcjambo Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, Corstorphine Jambo said: There seems likely to always be a debate as to whether Shankland's conditioning is what it should be. For what it's worth, I reckon he could slim down a bit. But one very valid point he made in his Evening News interview was that he has missed next to no games over the last couple of years - so that would suggest he's got something right! Yeah, he's not over training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 Shankland plays 90 mins 3 times a week. Never misses a game and always plays 90. His conditioning is fine, and obviously looks after his recovery and food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 7 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said: Shankland plays 90 mins 3 times a week. Never misses a game and always plays 90. His conditioning is fine, and obviously looks after his recovery and food. Nobody questioned whether he looks after his food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Nobody questioned whether he looks after his food. Nah but for anyone to say he doesn’t look after himself is talking nonsense. You can’t play as many minutes as he does without doing so. His form has just been woeful for a long time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 18 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said: Nah but for anyone to say he doesn’t look after himself is talking nonsense. You can’t play as many minutes as he does without doing so. His form has just been woeful for a long time now. I think it’s form, confidence, head not right. Along those lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 Right Bloom, get the search engine warmed up. Budge & Co, get the cheque book open. We need to get moving from Day One of the window and no pushing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 It's massive!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 3 news forwards at LEAST! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 39 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Right Bloom, get the search engine warmed up. Budge & Co, get the cheque book open. We need to get moving from Day One of the window and no pushing about. Just how much cash do you think we're able to splash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: Right Bloom, get the search engine warmed up. Budge & Co, get the cheque book open. We need to get moving from Day One of the window and no pushing about. 57 minutes ago, feej said: It's massive!!! 48 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: 3 news forwards at LEAST! This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 28 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Just how much cash do you think we're able to splash? Enough to keep us in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 13 minutes ago, One five said: This Our current front line has had enough chances and plenty of chances to get goals and have failed miserably. Where are goals.going to come from to get us out this mess, not from the current incumbents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 25 minutes ago, feej said: Our current front line has had enough chances and plenty of chances to get goals and have failed miserably. Where are goals.going to come from to get us out this mess, not from the current incumbents. Totally agree mate 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 8 minutes ago, One five said: Totally agree mate 👍 The managers been given a shitty stick and whilst there's glimpses of improvement, overall there is not much to get excited about. Same players making the same mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Just how much cash do you think we're able to splash? What’s this seasons prize money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 Just now, feej said: The managers been given a shitty stick and whilst there's glimpses of improvement, overall there is not much to get excited about. Same players making the same mistakes. Yip it’s the same week in week out! bad decision making and not strong enough in the air in defence, midfield losing the ball to cheaply and not being brave enough on the ball , Shankland has lost it at for me and Vargas is just not good enough. Although it’s not usually a great window in January but we need to get this sorted. Only my opinion tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 1 minute ago, One five said: Yip it’s the same week in week out! bad decision making and not strong enough in the air in defence, midfield losing the ball to cheaply and not being brave enough on the ball , Shankland has lost it at for me and Vargas is just not good enough. Although it’s not usually a great window in January but we need to get this sorted. Only my opinion tho. Your spot on mate, look at my posting history I talk about football intelligence and game management. We're severely lacking in both and it's not getting better, 1st goal tonight case in point, Forrest and then Rowles. I would only keep Gordon, Beni,Spittal and Penrice from that lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, feej said: Your spot on mate, look at my posting history I talk about football intelligence and game management. We're severely lacking in both and it's not getting better, 1st goal tonight case in point, Forrest and then Rowles. I would only keep Gordon, Beni,Spittal and Penrice from that lot. Yeah first goal was awful primary school defending. Penrice is a player good attitude and knows how to play the game and will only get better👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, One five said: Yeah first goal was awful primary school defending. Penrice is a player good attitude and knows how to play the game and will only get better👍 And where the feck did Boyce & Mckay come from, nowhere near the league starting 11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 Just now, feej said: And where the feck did Boyce & Mckay come from, nowhere near the league starting 11? I really just don’t get how they are even in the squad mate , they both should never wear a Hearts jersey again. Imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flogel the Right Back Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 Did you see the BBC Scottish football gossip page yesterday, Wed 27/11/24? It included a "story" - "Rangers want to sign Leeds United forward Joe Gelhardt on loan in the January transfer window. " Tony Bloom/Hearts won't be doing that will they? Announcing stuff like that in advance. That seems so old fashioned now, doing that sort of thing. Like *Celtic/Rangers linked with Austrian/Finnish/Danish/Etc player* type stuff, is already old hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques de Gatineau Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 3 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: Right Bloom, get the search engine warmed up. Budge & Co, get the cheque book open. We need to get moving from Day One of the window and no pushing about. I like to think we've got players signed/almost signed already. But then again, there was no succession plan for Naismith, so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 7 hours ago, Ally said: I like to think we've got players signed/almost signed already. But then again, there was no succession plan for Naismith, so who knows. McKinley hinted that things were in motion when he did his last update interview. To paraphrase he said something like "always looking, there is one in particular, will we get him? We don't know". That must have been about a month ago now so hopefully things have moved on and we have them ready to roll once the window opens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 On 27/11/2024 at 18:09, jbee647 said: I agree, but that’s all with the benefits of hindsight Had Rangers sold those players and that had not prevented the Celtic 10IAR, there would have been absolute carnage from the Rangers supporters who had to stop Celtic achieve that an any cost… literally Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 16 hours ago, GinRummy said: Enough to keep us in the league. So no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 15 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: What’s this seasons prize money? No idea. Or do you mean what did we get for last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: So no clue. Well no. Nobody does until we know which players we could buy that fit what we want and what they cost. You’d hope the purse strings would be loosened given how precarious our position is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackd51 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 7 hours ago, Jamboross said: McKinley hinted that things were in motion when he did his last update interview. To paraphrase he said something like "always looking, there is one in particular, will we get him? We don't know". That must have been about a month ago now so hopefully things have moved on and we have them ready to roll once the window opens. Been giving this some thought and wondering if the player he mentioned could be Lyle Cameron from Dundee out of contract in the summer and still young and would potentially be a good bit of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, GinRummy said: Well no. Nobody does until we know which players we could buy that fit what we want and what they cost. You’d hope the purse strings would be loosened given how precarious our position is. The purse strings have been loosened if you just look at the players we've taken on in the last couple of seasons or so. Unfortunately, for the most part, we've acquired sub standard dross and paid out money firing coaching staff. Hopefully the analytics will change this starting in just over a month but even then the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 34 minutes ago, JamboAl said: The purse strings have been loosened if you just look at the players we've taken on in the last couple of seasons or so. Unfortunately, for the most part, we've acquired sub standard dross and paid out money firing coaching staff. Hopefully the analytics will change this starting in just over a month but even then the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Don’t disagree. Hopefully we can spend on the right players in January and finally achieve the quality over quantity that our two previous managers liked to mention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 8 hours ago, Jackd51 said: Been giving this some thought and wondering if the player he mentioned could be Lyle Cameron from Dundee out of contract in the summer and still young and would potentially be a good bit of business. Is it not meant to be a Striker currently playing in Japan but not Japanese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 55 minutes ago, wavydavy said: Is it not meant to be a Striker currently playing in Japan but not Japanese. Marcelo Ryan Léo Ceará Marcos Guilherme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStein Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Sign a striker and a winger, for me that’s the minimum. A right back wouldn’t go a miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 hour ago, wavydavy said: Is it not meant to be a Striker currently playing in Japan but not Japanese. To be fair there has been a few rumours. One was a Japanese striker, another one has been a South American striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 So to sum up then we’re signing a Japanese striker after letting one go in the summer and despite having one on our books that we rarely see getting an outing because he’s soft as shit. Or we’re signing a South American who’s playing in Japan or some other country that no one has a clue about but heard a rumour somewhere? Why don’t we just wait and see what the analytics throw up for us. I’d argue we’d need more than one striker and for the record, we currently have a South American striker who’s not exactly setting the heather on fire like the previous Japanese striker we couldn’t wait to get rid off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, SMJ_1874 said: So to sum up then we’re signing a Japanese striker after letting one go in the summer and despite having one on our books that we rarely see getting an outing because he’s soft as shit. Or we’re signing a South American who’s playing in Japan or some other country that no one has a clue about but heard a rumour somewhere? Why don’t we just wait and see what the analytics throw up for us. I’d argue we’d need more than one striker and for the record, we currently have a South American striker who’s not exactly setting the heather on fire like the previous Japanese striker we couldn’t wait to get rid off. To be pedantic, Kenneth Vargas is from Central America not South America. I do think that I would be surprised if anyone at this point knows where our signings are coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 23 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: To be pedantic, Kenneth Vargas is from Central America not South America. I do think that I would be surprised if anyone at this point knows where our signings are coming from. I didnt know they had a continent called Central America but maybe it’s changed since I was at school. It was certainly a long time ago. I thought we only had North and South America. I don’t think anyone knows anything about any targets or future signings as JA are more secretive than MI6. I’d be shocked if a name comes out on social media before any signing is official and that’s with all the data available on Transfermarket, YouTube and Wyscout that anyone can look at. Maybe that’s the problem, too much info out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknownuser Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 44 minutes ago, SMJ_1874 said: I didnt know they had a continent called Central America but maybe it’s changed since I was at school. It was certainly a long time ago. I thought we only had North and South America. I don’t think anyone knows anything about any targets or future signings as JA are more secretive than MI6. I’d be shocked if a name comes out on social media before any signing is official and that’s with all the data available on Transfermarket, YouTube and Wyscout that anyone can look at. Maybe that’s the problem, too much info out there. Central America's a subregion of north America apparently. Live and/or learn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 5 hours ago, unknownuser said: Central America's a subregion of north America apparently. Live and/or learn! Good job I don’t have to rely on geography in my job these days or I’d be foooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Need a striker and a centre half. Don’t score enough and concede soft goals, a bad combination and has resulted in us sitting bottom of the league. If we don’t sort it we are going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwd1957 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 On 29/11/2024 at 06:30, Jamboross said: McKinley hinted that things were in motion when he did his last update interview. To paraphrase he said something like "always looking, there is one in particular, will we get him? We don't know". That must have been about a month ago now so hopefully things have moved on and we have them ready to roll once the window opens. He's wearing a blind fold ,if he thinks one signing is going to save Hearts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, gwd1957 said: He's wearing a blind fold ,if he thinks one signing is going to save Hearts . Does he think that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisyboy7 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, gwd1957 said: He's wearing a blind fold ,if he thinks one signing is going to save Hearts . We are needing Goalkeeper Right back Centre half Attacking midfielder 2 strikers 1 posibly 2 wingers. Obviously players need to go too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 minute ago, chrisyboy7 said: We are needing Goalkeeper Right back Centre half Attacking midfielder 2 strikers 1 posibly 2 wingers. Obviously players need to go too Not in January we don’t and if your expectations are anywhere near that you’re going to be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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