Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Clark - 7 - MoM. At fault for the first but kept the score down in the end Kent - 6 - Got lost under the high ball for the second. Otherwise solid Kingsley - 6 - Solid Lembikisa - 5 - Started well when we were on top in the first phase of the game but the more defensive he became, the worse he became Rowles - 6 - OK Baningime - 7 - Showed up well in holding the ball in tight pressure situations and not wasting it Grant - 5 - Like Lembikisa, started well and then donned the cloak of invisibility Devlin - 6 - Unlucky not to score and got stuck in Shankland - 5 - Poor touches throughout and gave away a pen Vargas - 6 - Tried hard with little service Cochrane - 5 - Please go and learn to cross a ball Subs: Atkinson - 4 - Fell over his own feet Fraser - 2 - Why? Oda - 4 - Should have scored our best chance McKay - 1 - Invisible Tagawa - 1 - No time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Zander 4 All the others ranging from -1 to -5 in no particular order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corstorphine Jambo Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 I would probably agree over the whole, Clark to get top marks. But I’ll need to see the second again - could he have come for it? Decent saves though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 8 minutes ago, Corstorphine Jambo said: I would probably agree over the whole, Clark to get top marks. But I’ll need to see the second again - could he have come for it? Decent saves though He should certainly have been out closer to that diving wee prick. He made it a hell of a lot easier for him than it should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Clark 7 Kept it from being a cricket score Lembikisa 5 Tough game against Forrest Kent 6 Did ok on the back foot Rowles 5 Should have done better at the second but stuck to it Kingsley 5 Didn’t seem to do much apart from kick the ball in the direction he was facing Cochrane 6 Thought he was ok but couldn’t get on the front foot Beni 6 Under a lot of pressure Devlin 5 Not on it today Grant 4 started well and faded Vargas 3 mostly got the ball with his back to goal and a Celtic player on his back Shankland 3 seems to be playing in no mans land just now and not on it. Atkinson 2 Second touch is a tackle and not a very good one at that Fraser 4 managed to keep the ball Oda 4 worked hard and created a good chance for himself Tagawa 2 Want him to do well but he is miles off the pace of the game McKay 2 the last player you need in this type of game Naismith 4 think the formation and plan unraveled fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 I only really saw the last 30 mins but I thought Atkinson was honking. He just doesn't look like a footballer at all. Positioning is shocking, constantly on the wrong side of the attacker, gives the ball away all the time, and is too casual. Hopefully right back is a priority in the summer. He's just not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster HMFC Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 14 minutes ago, Don Dan said: Zander 4 All the others ranging from -1 to -5 in no particular order. Wind up. Most of us have seen Hearts play much worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgierools Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 19 minutes ago, Don Dan said: Zander 4 All the others ranging from -1 to -5 in no particular order. Really? Maybe you need a different hobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Shanks looks like he’s on the beach waiting for the Euros 😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mercer Takeover Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Clark - 6 - Some good saves, but didn't look too good at their first. Time for Gordon. Kent - 7 - Very good and composed. Rowles - 6 - Pretty good game Kingsley - 6 - Another good game Lembikisa - 5 - Not the greatest defending but looked good going forward Baningime - 7 - Typical display and perhaps our best player Grant - 2 - Absolute wage thief who is like playing with a man down. Wore the stealth strip again. Needs punted at the earliest opportunity. Devlin - 7 - Good display and was all action Shankland - 5 - Did a fair amount of work Vargas - 5 - Huffed and puffed without really begging involved Cochrane - 5 - Ok Subs: Atkinson - 2 - Not the best Fraser - 1 - What is his position or role here. Very one footed and didn't contribute Oda - 4 - Looked sharp Tagawa - 0- Why? We started of really will today and for 20 or do minutes were the better team. If we had a full 11 players on the park, who knows. Grant just doesn't contribute enough, week after week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgierools Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, stevie said: Shanks looks like he’s on the beach waiting for the Euros 😩 Disagree. He wasn't getting the service but dropped back several times and retrieved possession. When we get proper heads up midfield players that can see a pass he will break the 30 mark. I think he'll stay and will thrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoiK Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 I wouldn’t even give Atkinson a score of 1. He was about a 4 for Celtic however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Corstorphine Jambo said: I would probably agree over the whole, Clark to get top marks. But I’ll need to see the second again - could he have come for it? Decent saves though He didn’t need to come for it, he was standing where the ball landed but retreated when the pass was made. He does that a lot and makes it easy for the attacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 17 minutes ago, RoiK said: I wouldn’t even give Atkinson a score of 1. He was about a 4 for Celtic however. Possibly one of the worst substitute appearances ive ever seen, he could’ve taken him off instead of Kingsley. Putting Maieda on him made it worse, Cochrane was happy at that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidebottom Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 58 minutes ago, Rocky jamboa said: I only really saw the last 30 mins but I thought Atkinson was honking. He just doesn't look like a footballer at all. Positioning is shocking, constantly on the wrong side of the attacker, gives the ball away all the time, and is too casual. Hopefully right back is a priority in the summer. He's just not good enough. He has been honking for 2 years. No idea what anyone sees in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 How does Grant manage to put in a performance in a semi final like that and retain his place. We tracked Fraser all the way through January. He's been a dreadful signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Clark - 7 - MoM. At fault for the first but kept the score down in the end Kent - 6 - Got lost under the high ball for the second. Otherwise solid Kingsley - 6 - Solid Lembikisa - 5 - Started well when we were on top in the first phase of the game but the more defensive he became, the worse he became Rowles - 6 - OK Baningime - 7 - Showed up well in holding the ball in tight pressure situations and not wasting it Grant - 5 - Like Lembikisa, started well and then donned the cloak of invisibility Devlin - 6 - Unlucky not to score and got stuck in Shankland - 5 - Poor touches throughout and gave away a pen Vargas - 6 - Tried hard with little service Cochrane - 5 - Please go and learn to cross a ball Subs: Atkinson - 4 - Fell over his own feet Fraser - 2 - Why? Oda - 4 - Should have scored our best chance McKay - 1 - Invisible Tagawa - 1 - No time Have to disagree with Clark score. Was at fault for first, he saved a few but were all at decent height for a goalie to make the save. He’s a decent goalie but struggles with balls into box and I’ve seen a roll of Lino go down quicker. Time for Gordon back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Rocky jamboa said: I only really saw the last 30 mins but I thought Atkinson was honking. He just doesn't look like a footballer at all. Positioning is shocking, constantly on the wrong side of the attacker, gives the ball away all the time, and is too casual. Hopefully right back is a priority in the summer. He's just not good enough. Michael Smith was done at least a year before he left us. That’s 2 years and we still don’t have a competent right back. We have either Atkinson, Lembikisa, or Sibbick and none of them can do basic defending. We don’t even appear to have an academy right back we can start to bleed in. Not looking for a world beater, just someone who can defend the flanks and limit the crosses in, any chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Where were the ultras today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 The game felt like a preseason friendly. Playing each other so many times just devalues the importance of these games. We felt very unbothered, like we started well, conceded cheap goals and just closed out the game. Didn't feel like there was much to play for and everyone knew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular John Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 We've downed tools for weeks now. With third in the bag then we never looked like we believed we could win the semi. Most of the losers we have in the squad need cut out, no character at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIGJAM Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Not so much a rating more why play Fraser (not here next year) and not have Tait in squad. Clearly not injured. Very strange. Build for the future??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 We need another dominant CB. IMO Kent is sort of like the reverse Shankland in that he cannot have an off game otherwise our defence collapses. Rowles and Kingsley kind of hangers on to his form, rather than leading through their own form - not saying either are bad players, just that their having a good game depends on Kent having a good game, whereas Kents form is wholly dependent on himself. Stand by that Stuart Findlay would be a good option. Even in a back 3 - Kent Findlay Rowles - Gives us two clear ball winners and Rowles who can take the ball out of defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, FIGJAM said: Not so much a rating more why play Fraser (not here next year) and not have Tait in squad. Clearly not injured. Very strange. Build for the future??? Tait hasn't played well since the Semi final - IMO his confidence has taken a knock and Naisy is protecting him from that. He'll be back soon enough, of that I have no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, The Mercer Takeover said: Clark - 6 - Some good saves, but didn't look too good at their first. Time for Gordon. Kent - 7 - Very good and composed. Rowles - 6 - Pretty good game Kingsley - 6 - Another good game Lembikisa - 5 - Not the greatest defending but looked good going forward Baningime - 7 - Typical display and perhaps our best player Grant - 2 - Absolute wage thief who is like playing with a man down. Wore the stealth strip again. Needs punted at the earliest opportunity. Devlin - 7 - Good display and was all action Shankland - 5 - Did a fair amount of work Vargas - 5 - Huffed and puffed without really begging involved Cochrane - 5 - Ok Subs: Atkinson - 2 - Not the best Fraser - 1 - What is his position or role here. Very one footed and didn't contribute Oda - 4 - Looked sharp Tagawa - 0- Why? We started of really will today and for 20 or do minutes were the better team. If we had a full 11 players on the park, who knows. Grant just doesn't contribute enough, week after week. Rowles was sleeping at the 2nd but agreed about the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 15 minutes ago, FIGJAM said: Not so much a rating more why play Fraser (not here next year) and not have Tait in squad. Clearly not injured. Very strange. Build for the future??? Trying to show they didn’t make a mistake bringing him here? Set up the chance for Oda but im not convinced he meant to pass it to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 13 minutes ago, OTT said: We need another dominant CB. IMO Kent is sort of like the reverse Shankland in that he cannot have an off game otherwise our defence collapses. Rowles and Kingsley kind of hangers on to his form, rather than leading through their own form - not saying either are bad players, just that their having a good game depends on Kent having a good game, whereas Kents form is wholly dependent on himself. Stand by that Stuart Findlay would be a good option. Even in a back 3 - Kent Findlay Rowles - Gives us two clear ball winners and Rowles who can take the ball out of defence. Kingsley is a far better player than Rowles, with or without the ball. But a new first choice CH would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 22 minutes ago, Regular John said: We've downed tools for weeks now. With third in the bag then we never looked like we believed we could win the semi. Most of the losers we have in the squad need cut out, no character at all. I would think the manager would agree, not something he was or likely to put up 🤞. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIGJAM Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: I would think the manager would agree, not something he was or likely to put up 🤞. Would like to think we play those players who are around next year. No need to give minutes to those not with us next campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: He didn’t need to come for it, he was standing where the ball landed but retreated when the pass was made. He does that a lot and makes it easy for the attacker. What is amusing about this, is that this exact scenario has been Craig Gordon’s great weakness through his career. Think Harry Kane’s equaliser at Hampden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 54 minutes ago, FIGJAM said: Would like to think we play those players who are around next year. No need to give minutes to those not with us next campaign. We aren’t getting rid of enough of them this summer unfortunately, but yes there doesn’t seem a hell of a lot of point playing those that are leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 52 minutes ago, hearts00 said: What is amusing about this, is that this exact scenario has been Craig Gordon’s great weakness through his career. Think Harry Kane’s equaliser at Hampden. No doubt, he would’ve been at Kyogo when he hit it though, as Hart was with Vargas and Oda today, not backing off. Gordon also wouldn’t have punched the ball down the way straight to a Celtic player, you are supposed to punch it up and away to the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 4 hours ago, HMFC 86 said: Michael Smith was done at least a year before he left us. That’s 2 years and we still don’t have a competent right back. We have either Atkinson, Lembikisa, or Sibbick and none of them can do basic defending. We don’t even appear to have an academy right back we can start to bleed in. Not looking for a world beater, just someone who can defend the flanks and limit the crosses in, any chance Yeah agree. It was certainly clear last summer that a right back was a priority, so disappointing it wasn't addressed. A right back and attacking midfielder who can chip in with goals are the 2 key areas we need to strengthen in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordons left glove Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Says alot that Motherwell were our competitors for Fraser. Nowhere near our level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just can't see it with Oda. Some good work but that chance today, like his other against Sevco in the semi, should've been scored. On the other hand, I'm enjoying the reanimated Cammy Devlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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