Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Because we badly need players who can do that. Between Forrest, Cochrane and Grant, we must have the shittiest corner takers in the league. Don't they even practise crossing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Set pieces and throw ins you’d expect to see in a poor under 15’s game. And it’s been ongoing for ages as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Thought his name was Yan Dhanda, not Can Dhanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 28 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Set pieces and throw ins you’d expect to see in a poor under 15’s game. And it’s been ongoing for ages as well. This. Often teams see set pieces as the best opportunities for goals,I see ours as a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmreido Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 15 corners today, not one of them came to anything, has to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I don’t know why we get all excited when we end up with a corner? We don’t have a player that can deliver a decent one, and if we can’t do that from a dead ball situation, what chance have got of delivering a decent cross from open play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18Jambo_dave74 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 We have one of the best set piece takers I’ve seen at Hearts in years yet we don’t let him take the corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Cochrane is woeful at set pieces, either hits the first man or over hits it completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, 18Jambo_dave74 said: We have one of the best set piece takers I’ve seen at Hearts in years yet we don’t let him take the corners. That’s cause he’s also one of our best players at attacking the ball in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Our corners are rage inducing We're shit at them. Nobody seems to be able to take them, and it doesn't even look like they practice. A professional footballer that fails to beat the first man with his corner should be running laps of the pitch until their ****ing vomiting. Absolutely zero excuse for that. Can't hit a dead ball despite practising for circa 20 years? **** right off. Zero excuse for it. Grant the best of a very bad bunch. Cochrane just floats everything in so the keeper can catch it and doesn't learn and Forrest's are utter wank. McKays are an abomination. Shit, shitter and shitiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamb04life Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Don’t get me wrong, a lot of corners are pish and fail to beat the first man, however other than Kent and Halkett, does any1 else actually look like scoring a header when a decent ball gets put in?! Said on another threat, we need to mix it up, play it short or work it into the box in other ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18Jambo_dave74 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, Russ1977 said: That’s cause he’s also one of our best players at attacking the ball in the air. Pretty pointless if the corners are garbage though isn’t it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 7 minutes ago, 18Jambo_dave74 said: Pretty pointless if the corners are garbage though isn’t it. Agreed. It’s a bit of a catch 22 situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 We aren't any worse at corners than any other team in the league. In fact i think only Dundee had more goals from them last time i checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald Villiers Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Seen Dhanda plenty of times over the past couple of years. He's great at free kicks and corners. Even scored direct from a corner against the vermin last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 44 minutes ago, Russ1977 said: That’s cause he’s also one of our best players at attacking the ball in the air. We've others who can head a ball but none who can deliver consistently. Get him on the corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, Jambof3tornado said: We've others who can head a ball but none who can deliver consistently. Get him on the corners. We couldn’t do any worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazzyy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 18 minutes ago, Diego10 said: We aren't any worse at corners than any other team in the league. In fact i think only Dundee had more goals from them last time i checked. Aye but .......... 🤷♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 In Dec 23 we were 2nd to Dundee in scoring from corners. https://totalfootballanalysis.com/set-piece-analysis/dundee-attacking-corners-set-piece-analysis-tactics Cannae find anything else more up to date. Jkb myth - busted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I reckon it's the pesky defensive team that's the issue, they try and stop us. How dare they! Funny enough, we don't let other teams score either from corners, we try to stop them anaw....grrrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Because we badly need players who can do that. Between Forrest, Cochrane and Grant, we must have the shittiest corner takers in the league. Don't they even practise crossing? Nobody makes any real attempt to connect anyway tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 12 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: I reckon it's the pesky defensive team that's the issue, they try and stop us. How dare they! Funny enough, we don't let other teams score either from corners, we try to stop them anaw....grrrr. We make it easy for those pesky defences by not beating the first man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Lumping corners into the box against a defence who are much bigger and stronger is plain daft to be honest. We should do short corners when we’re outnumbered 2/3-1 and they’re all massive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartmussel Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Austin McPhee is a huge miss for set pieces , made a huge difference in Aston Villas set up and one of the best in the business for the technical side of the game setting up and defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, OTT said: Our corners are rage inducing We're shit at them. Nobody seems to be able to take them, and it doesn't even look like they practice. A professional footballer that fails to beat the first man with his corner should be running laps of the pitch until their ****ing vomiting. Absolutely zero excuse for that. Can't hit a dead ball despite practising for circa 20 years? **** right off. Zero excuse for it. Grant the best of a very bad bunch. Cochrane just floats everything in so the keeper can catch it and doesn't learn and Forrest's are utter wank. McKays are an abomination. Shit, shitter and shitiest. Not far wrong with all of that mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Russ1977 said: That’s cause he’s also one of our best players at attacking the ball in the air. We only have two good players at attacking the ball in the air. Neither were playing today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Diego10 said: We aren't any worse at corners than any other team in the league. In fact i think only Dundee had more goals from them last time i checked. The stats are likely somewhat skewed by how many penalties Rangers win from corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 38 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: We only have two good players at attacking the ball in the air. Neither were playing today. Yip which leaves Kingsley as the best we’ve got at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) I’m sure it was Pep who got the City analysis guys do to a study on corners and the results were they’re a waste of time very few goals are scored from them. I’m more concerned by how long it takes us to deliver a cross into the box always an extra touch or cut inside or hit and hope. Edited March 16 by Rudy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo61 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 hours ago, jamboozy said: I don’t know why we get all excited when we end up with a corner? We don’t have a player that can deliver a decent one, and if we can’t do that from a dead ball situation, what chance have got of delivering a decent cross from open play? To be fair....we hardly have anyone, other than Shanks, that is a threat from a decent cross in any case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, Rudy T said: I’m sure it was Pep who got the City analysis guys do to a study on corners and the results were they’re a waste of time very few goals are scored from them. I’m more concerned by how long it takes us to deliver a cross into the box always an extra touch or cut inside or hit and hope. Agree but it doesn’t take pep and analysis, just years of watching corners getting shelled in and headed out. Think the overall stats are one goal every 25 corners on average. Every team has stopped blootering goal kicks up the park as 9/10 it leads to the opposition getting the ball so why we still cross corners in when every opposition defence is taller than our forwards and there’s more of them than us is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 57 minutes ago, Rudy T said: I’m sure it was Pep who got the City analysis guys do to a study on corners and the results were they’re a waste of time very few goals are scored from them. I’m more concerned by how long it takes us to deliver a cross into the box always an extra touch or cut inside or hit and hope. And yet he has Foden taking them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 49 minutes ago, PaddysBar said: Agree but it doesn’t take pep and analysis, just years of watching corners getting shelled in and headed out. Think the overall stats are one goal every 25 corners on average. Every team has stopped blootering goal kicks up the park as 9/10 it leads to the opposition getting the ball so why we still cross corners in when every opposition defence is taller than our forwards and there’s more of them than us is beyond me. As others have said we actually have not a bad record from corners this season which contrasts with previous seasons for as long as I can remember. They were shite today right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Rudy T said: I’m sure it was Pep who got the City analysis guys do to a study on corners and the results were they’re a waste of time very few goals are scored from them. I’m more concerned by how long it takes us to deliver a cross into the box always an extra touch or cut inside or hit and hope. Something like between 2-5% of goals are scored from a corner, yet fans all over the world get excited when they get one. This only goes to show that we are probably wasting our energies cheering when we get one, wheras we would be far better buying the guy from Morton (Strapp ?) that guy can chuck a ball for ****ing miles and with pace … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 41 minutes ago, jbee647 said: Something like between 2-5% of goals are scored from a corner, yet fans all over the world get excited when they get one. This only goes to show that we are probably wasting our energies cheering when we get one, wheras we would be far better buying the guy from Morton (Strapp ?) that guy can chuck a ball for ****ing miles and with pace … I was about to rubbish this because I thought he was much older than he actually is! He's only 24, not an awful idea tbh. We got Ryan Stevenson from Ayr and he did a bloody good job for us. Likewise Webster from Arbroath. Worth a look if nothing else!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 9 hours ago, Jambo61 said: To be fair....we hardly have anyone, other than Shanks, that is a threat from a decent cross in any case! This is also true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedoorsdown Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) I think this is a generational thing. Tactics, keeper protection, modern rules and the sheer heigh of the players mean corners really are as much of a danger as they are an opportunity in todays game. Something ridiculous like 2% of corners end in a goal. Take them short, keep possession ticking over. Edited March 17 by Threedoorsdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScandinavianJambo Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 15 hours ago, PaddysBar said: Lumping corners into the box against a defence who are much bigger and stronger is plain daft to be honest. We should do short corners when we’re outnumbered 2/3-1 and they’re all massive. We certainly have an high issue....our set pieces haven been great of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 15 hours ago, heartmussel said: Austin McPhee is a huge miss for set pieces , made a huge difference in Aston Villas set up and one of the best in the business for the technical side of the game setting up and defending. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Light.. Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 17 hours ago, OTT said: Our corners are rage inducing We're shit at them. Nobody seems to be able to take them, and it doesn't even look like they practice. A professional footballer that fails to beat the first man with his corner should be running laps of the pitch until their ****ing vomiting. Absolutely zero excuse for that. Can't hit a dead ball despite practising for circa 20 years? **** right off. Zero excuse for it. Grant the best of a very bad bunch. Cochrane just floats everything in so the keeper can catch it and doesn't learn and Forrest's are utter wank. McKays are an abomination. Shit, shitter and shitiest. This. Absolutely 100% all of this! GET IT SORTED NAISMITH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, By The Light.. said: This. Absolutely 100% all of this! GET IT SORTED NAISMITH. Yep, definitely needs attention on the training pitch. Short corners allow for many more options anyway, and draws the defenders out too - its crazy why we persist in taking a corner aimlessly into a crowded box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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