Tazio Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just spotted this programme is on BBC1 after the news. All about how Scotland changed how football was played with introducing the passing game etc. I wonder if the utter helmet will sneak in a bit about Hibs changing South American football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 Just spotted it was on BBC Scotland last night so is on iPlayer already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Hit the reply button too soon... Recorded it last night and watched it earlier. Was ok, nithing hugely new in it we havent heard before, usual talking heads such as Archie McPherson and Cosgrove although the bit with Jim McCalliog was good. The Brazil/Argentinian connection certainly gets a mention although lacks any warrior poet input. From an Edinburgh perspective John Hope also gets a brief mention and as an aside I would thouroughly recommend this book about him. And auld Dougrays mouser... Edited February 12 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, been here before said: Recorded it last night and watched it earlier. Was ok, nithing hugely new in it we havent heard before, usual talking heads such as Archie McPherson and Cosgrove although the bit with Jim McCalliog was good. I’ve just watched the bit with the historian girl at Stirling, quite the creepy look he was giving her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I thought Dougray was a star at Hampden in 2012 - especially after the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Standing in the centre circle at Hampden saying it was beautiful. It was empty. The whole ground, not just one end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I thought it was a really good programme. I was far more interested in the old stories, footage and the interviews than the stuff about arguing over who invented football though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go for it 1308 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: I thought Dougray was a star at Hampden in 2012 - especially after the match. The pain.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Looked steaming or high, talentless Hibs *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 As predicted... West Coast influences from start to finish. Despite Queens Park being deservedly being mentioned there was absolutely zero mentioning of the 'other' teams that were around for those first 30 years of Scottish Football. These programmes/documentaries need money thrown at them and dragged out over half a dozen or more episodes. So much to be disclosed, explained and simply brought to the attention of every fan that wishes to listen/watch on the history/origins of Scottish Football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 hours ago, dannymack said: As predicted... West Coast influences from start to finish. Despite Queens Park being deservedly being mentioned there was absolutely zero mentioning of the 'other' teams that were around for those first 30 years of Scottish Football. These programmes/documentaries need money thrown at them and dragged out over half a dozen or more episodes. So much to be disclosed, explained and simply brought to the attention of every fan that wishes to listen/watch on the history/origins of Scottish Football. 👏 Well said, Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 8 hours ago, been here before said: Hit the reply button too soon... Recorded it last night and watched it earlier. Was ok, nithing hugely new in it we havent heard before, usual talking heads such as Archie McPherson and Cosgrove although the bit with Jim McCalliog was good. The Brazil/Argentinian connection certainly gets a mention although lacks any warrior poet input. From an Edinburgh perspective John Hope also gets a brief mention and as an aside I would thouroughly recommend this book about him. And auld Dougrays mouser... Thanks for this. I’ve been meaning to buy this book for ages, so this is a welcome reminder! So, when we say football’s “coming home”…? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I didn't see it, but I would have thought with so many 'firsts' in football, h1b5 would get a big mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Cheers, will check it out. But concerned about Scott presenting it, as I've never seen him in anything where he didn't ruin it with his ridiculous overacting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Craig_ said: Cheers, will check it out. But concerned about Scott presenting it, as I've never seen him in anything where he didn't ruin it with his ridiculous overacting. He almost managed to ruin Thandi Newton for me ……….. almost That over emphasised Edinburgh accent he does in Crime has made it unwatchable for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Sooks said: He almost managed to ruin Thandi Newton for me ……….. almost That over emphasised Edinburgh accent he does in Crime has made it unwatchable for me Yep, that was the first thing that sprang to mind. Have lived in or around Edinburgh my entire life and have never heard anyone speak like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Craig_ said: Yep, that was the first thing that sprang to mind. Have lived in or around Edinburgh my entire life and have never heard anyone speak like that! It totally grates on me . It is a shame actually because I quite liked the book and people who have managed to suffer through his terrible acting tell me the series is decent apart from that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, Craig_ said: Cheers, will check it out. But concerned about Scott presenting it, as I've never seen him in anything where he didn't ruin it with his ridiculous overacting. I thought he sounded a bit punchy or parkinsonian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Jamstomorrow said: I didn't see it, but I would have thought with so many 'firsts' in football, h1b5 would get a big mention. Hibs got one mention, as Easter Road held the first ever women's international match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 He was good in twin town. Kinda hibsed it since then though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Game Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Putting Dougray to the side, I watched most of the show and felt a little embarrassed as I knew nothing of Rose Reilly. She had been banned from playing professional football in Scotland so made her name in France and Italy. She won several league titles. In fact, in the 1978-79 season she played for Lecce in Serie A on a Saturday then flew to Riems to play in the French league on Sundays and won both championships! She won several cups, golden boots, world footballer of the year in 1983, and the 1984 Women's World Cup playing for Italy. She was adored in Italy. Simply amazing and all news to me. She was inducted into the SFA Hall of Fame in 2007 and quite right too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 12 minutes ago, Still Game said: Putting Dougray to the side, I watched most of the show and felt a little embarrassed as I knew nothing of Rose Reilly. She had been banned from playing professional football in Scotland so made her name in France and Italy. She won several league titles. In fact, in the 1978-79 season she played for Lecce in Serie A on a Saturday then flew to Riems to play in the French league on Sundays and won both championships! She won several cups, golden boots, world footballer of the year in 1983, and the 1984 Women's World Cup playing for Italy. She was adored in Italy. Simply amazing and all news to me. She was inducted into the SFA Hall of Fame in 2007 and quite right too. I met her last year as there was a theatre show all about her and she came to watch it and do a Q&A with the audience. She's quite scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Tazio said: I met her last year as there was a theatre show all about her and she came to watch it and do a Q&A with the audience. She's quite scary. She would need to be a pretty formidable person to do what she did given the challenges she faced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percival King Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Still Game said: Putting Dougray to the side, I watched most of the show and felt a little embarrassed as I knew nothing of Rose Reilly. She had been banned from playing professional football in Scotland so made her name in France and Italy. She won several league titles. In fact, in the 1978-79 season she played for Lecce in Serie A on a Saturday then flew to Riems to play in the French league on Sundays and won both championships! She won several cups, golden boots, world footballer of the year in 1983, and the 1984 Women's World Cup playing for Italy. She was adored in Italy. Simply amazing and all news to me. She was inducted into the SFA Hall of Fame in 2007 and quite right too. There was a BBC Scotland series in the past couple of years about icons of Scottish football and had episodes on the likes Paul Sturrock and Charlie Nicholas. There was one on Rose Reilly. It’s an interesting story and she had some career but a sign of the times re.how she was treated in her own country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 14 hours ago, davemclaren said: I thought Dougray was a star at Hampden in 2012 - especially after the match. Ooh to, ooh to be, ooh to be a ...🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRY Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Still Game said: Putting Dougray to the side, I watched most of the show and felt a little embarrassed as I knew nothing of Rose Reilly. She had been banned from playing professional football in Scotland so made her name in France and Italy. She won several league titles. In fact, in the 1978-79 season she played for Lecce in Serie A on a Saturday then flew to Riems to play in the French league on Sundays and won both championships! She won several cups, golden boots, world footballer of the year in 1983, and the 1984 Women's World Cup playing for Italy. She was adored in Italy. Simply amazing and all news to me. She was inducted into the SFA Hall of Fame in 2007 and quite right too. Her story has become much better known in recent years, as she has been included in more Scottish football shows. It is a great story - the only Scottish player to lift a world cup... I'm sure I read somewhere that Gregory's Girl was (perhaps loosely) inspired by Rose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambie15 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Recorded and watched it just now. Thought it was a cracking watch, very interesting with good interviews. Dougray may be a Hibby, but he's really good in this. Two comments from me: First, you can stand in the centre circle of Hampden (I have) or anywhere else for that matter. Beautiful it ain't !!! It's a S****hole. Second, the programme's about how Scotland developed the modern game of football , not England as we get spoon-fed all the time - exploring the evidence to support that. It's wasn't about "West is best", so let's not get the knickers twisted on that. It's a good watch and I recommend to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 hours ago, John Findlay said: Hibs got one mention, as Easter Road held the first ever women's international match. A Mastermind question if ever I heard one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 hours ago, Chambie15 said: Recorded and watched it just now. Thought it was a cracking watch, very interesting with good interviews. Dougray may be a Hibby, but he's really good in this. Two comments from me: First, you can stand in the centre circle of Hampden (I have) or anywhere else for that matter. Beautiful it ain't !!! It's a S****hole. Second, the programme's about how Scotland developed the modern game of football , not England as we get spoon-fed all the time - exploring the evidence to support that. It's wasn't about "West is best", so let's not get the knickers twisted on that. It's a good watch and I recommend to anyone. He also referred to the 1882 Scotland win as 6-1, not 5-1. Maybe he's still coming to terms with 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgoJambo Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Enjoyed it. I think Professor Skillen might be a Jambo. Anyone confirm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbank2 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Thought it was decent. Bigging up the role of the Scots in the evolution of football and dispelling the "football's coming home" myth. Thought Mr Scott came over as enthusiastic, interested and informative. Yeah we all know he's a "docker" but I thought he relished the opportunity to have something to feel good about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecN Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Thought that the program was good. Very rarely mentioned the erse cheeks but it was very much about the national game rather than club level. Personally always been interested by old terracing so to see some of the old Hampden literally abandoned in the undergrowth was intriguing. Archie McPherson certainly has aged, oaft. Living legend no doubt but likely has his fans and haters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 36 minutes ago, SecN said: Thought that the program was good. Very rarely mentioned the erse cheeks but it was very much about the national game rather than club level. Personally always been interested by old terracing so to see some of the old Hampden literally abandoned in the undergrowth was intriguing. Archie McPherson certainly has aged, oaft. Living legend no doubt but likely has his fans and haters. Archie's 87 now. I thought he was looking in great shape for his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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