damo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 23/24 W D L F A Pts 12 3 7 27 20 39 22/23 W D L F A Pts 11 5 6 42 32 38 Neilson as forwards coach and Naismith as defensive coach is the winning combo 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, damo said: 23/24 W D L F A Pts 12 3 7 27 20 39 22/23 W D L F A Pts 11 5 6 42 32 38 Neilson as forwards coach and Naismith as defensive coach is the winning combo 👀 Folk may hate this, but Frankie McAvoy is 100% responsible for the defence at the club, he’s behind the transformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGwash Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Armageddon said: Folk may hate this, but Frankie McAvoy is 100% responsible for the defence at the club, he’s behind the transformation. According to SN, during the analysis and planning, he focuses on us in possession, GF focuses on us out of possession and FM concentrates on set pieces, for and against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 No surprise. Missing Barrie Mackay out most creative player all season and Gino who has been a massive loss. We also committing less people forward when defending corners. however, I’m sure lembikisa will help massively. And hopefully Baz back soon as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgoJambo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 …a row. its magic you know 🎶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, damo said: 23/24 W D L F A Pts 12 3 7 27 20 39 22/23 W D L F A Pts 11 5 6 42 32 38 Neilson as forwards coach and Naismith as defensive coach is the winning combo 👀 Is this the stage it started to fall apart last season? We ended up on 54 points -so we only took 16 points from the 16 remaining matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, LarrysRightFoot said: Is this the stage it started to fall apart last season? We ended up on 54 points -so we only took 16 points from the 16 remaining matches. Neilson gave up. Naismith won't. Not this season anyway 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Bull's-eye said: Neilson gave up. Naismith won't. Not this season anyway 😜 Let’s hope not. A win on Saturday would be big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bull's-eye Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Armageddon said: Calling Shite on that. Hibs have 40 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corstorphine Jambo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 17 minutes ago, Armageddon said: And that’s with a VAR howler against us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Armageddon said: Folk may hate this, but Frankie McAvoy is 100% responsible for the defence at the club, he’s behind the transformation. Signing Frankie Kent is the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schillaci Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 A real marker this season would be to finish third, but closer to second than the team finishing fourth is to us. That would be a measure of progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Elliott Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 8 hours ago, Armageddon said: Folk may hate this, but Frankie Kent is 100% responsible for the defence at the club, he’s behind the transformation. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 7 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: Signing Frankie Kent is the difference. Agree with this. There’s no way we’d have kept as many clean sheets with Sibbick and Rowles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bickfest Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) According to the Evening News article on the Hoff, we have 6 wins and a draw from our last 6 matches. 19 points out of 18. League winning form I think.... Edited January 25 by Bickfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Doesn’t really surprise me, we were lethal in front of goal during the first 2/3rds of last season regularly hitting 3 goals a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisyboy7 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 40 minutes ago, schillaci said: A real marker this season would be to finish third, but closer to second than the team finishing fourth is to us. That would be a measure of progress. Only 10 off rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 hours ago, Armageddon said: Folk may hate this, but Frankie McAvoy is 100% responsible for the defence at the club, he’s behind the transformation. Frankie is def the difference in defence season to season. Kent not McAvoy though. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 30 minutes ago, Bickfest said: According to the Evening News article on the Hoff, we have 6 wins and a draw from our last 6 matches. 19 points out of 18. League winning form I think.... But for a terrible start, we would be right up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, Sir PH said: But for a terrible start, we would be right up there. Well using his calculations I’d be disappointed considering we are getting extra points and games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 30 minutes ago, boag1874 said: Doesn’t really surprise me, we were lethal in front of goal during the first 2/3rds of last season regularly hitting 3 goals a game. At home, away we had issues but that was the defence, we were poor at set pieces and cross balls. No Kent, Rowles was still a bit raw and Halkett was Injured, iirc Rowles was out for a bit as well. We've massively improved that and it's given us a platform to win tight games. We play a similar style to last season imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 58 minutes ago, schillaci said: A real marker this season would be to finish third, but closer to second than the team finishing fourth is to us. That would be a measure of progress. 70 points would be my marker, probable a bit off that currently. We're on for 60 points tho, which is a high amount given the recent trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bickfest Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 19 minutes ago, Dazo said: Well using his calculations I’d be disappointed considering we are getting extra points and games. Indeed. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, Bickfest said: Indeed. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 26 minutes ago, schillaci said: A real marker this season would be to finish third, but closer to second than the team finishing fourth is to us. That would be a measure of progress. I get you in a way but imo there’s more important metrics at play. We can’t control the amount of points the other teams pick up, what I’m more interested in is things like our total number of wins & total number of points. Last season we had 15 wins & 54 points, the season before it was 17 wins & 61 points, 15/16 (our best top flight season since admin) was 18 wins & 64 points. Those should be the barometers that we aim to beat (currently on 12 wins & 39 points). Goal difference could be taken into account too but it’s so variable week to week so I’ve omitted it for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, schillaci said: A real marker this season would be to finish third, but closer to second than the team finishing fourth is to us. That would be a measure of progress. Nah that’s maybe next seasons marker for me. Going from 4th to 3rd by such a margin is too much a step in one season. Getting 3rd 2 or 3 seasons in a row would be progress alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juho_Makela_Goal_Machine Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 60 points will be enough for third. 7 more wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Seems much of a muchness between the two. Feels like it's maybe the level of the squad. Naismith has somehow managed to make us more unwatchable which is some going but as long as the wheels don't come off second half of the season he'll have done a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 8 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: Signing Frankie Kent is the difference. Getting rid of Neilson is the biggest factor 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) How we capitulated under RN after this. What was it? Only 3 or 4 wins in our next 16 thanks to him. SN had some job to do. Edited January 25 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, boag1874 said: I get you in a way but imo there’s more important metrics at play. We can’t control the amount of points the other teams pick up, what I’m more interested in is things like our total number of wins & total number of points. Last season we had 15 wins & 54 points, the season before it was 17 wins & 61 points, 15/16 (our best top flight season since admin) was 18 wins & 64 points. Those should be the barometers that we aim to beat (currently on 12 wins & 39 points). Goal difference could be taken into account too but it’s so variable week to week so I’ve omitted it for now. Exactly how I see it. More than 60 points would be good, reaching the 65 would be great. 70 points would constitute the much talked about "next level" although I think that is well beyond us this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 hours ago, Armageddon said: lovely jubley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 wins in our last 12, including a draw too. Naismith deserves huge credit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 11 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: Signing Frankie Kent is the difference. Signing a centre half who can head the ball, who’d have thunk it? Clearly not Neilson or Savage last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Supporting Hearts has taught me not to get too far ahead of myself so definitely not counting my chickens, St Johnstone and Dundee away will be very tough tests for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 34 minutes ago, DS98 said: Signing a centre half who can head the ball, who’d have thunk it? Clearly not Neilson or Savage last season. Aye, it was a head scratcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Lincs Jambo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, chrisyboy7 said: Only 10 off rangers Ifs and buts I know, but hold on at Ibrox at 89 minutes and the gap is 4 points, beat Hibs from 2-0 up and get the pen against Ross County with the correct VAR decision and the gap is 0. (assuming we actually score the penalty 😂 ). I like the job the management team are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 21 minutes ago, N Lincs Jambo said: Ifs and buts I know, but hold on at Ibrox at 89 minutes and the gap is 4 points, beat Hibs from 2-0 up and get the pen against Ross County with the correct VAR decision and the gap is 0. (assuming we actually score the penalty 😂 ). I like the job the management team are doing. Surrendering a one goal lead against a poor Aberdeen team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 15 hours ago, damo said: 23/24 W D L F A Pts 12 3 7 27 20 39 22/23 W D L F A Pts 11 5 6 42 32 38 Neilson as forwards coach and Naismith as defensive coach is the winning combo 👀 So was Shankland and Ginnelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Lincs Jambo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Sir PH said: Surrendering a one goal lead against a poor Aberdeen team. Christ I’d forgotten about that one 😓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66561732 1-0 loss to Dundee too thanks to a Zander brain fart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Strange how similar it is results / points wise. After a wobbly start we’ve found good mid season form. It is very similar to last season we had that 10 game unbeaten around xmas January time and went clear in 3rd. So, this is the start of the real challenge now, for the new coaching staff to prove their worth. This is the point where the difference needs to be seen. Got to back it up. Cannot let the momentum slip, as we’ve seen what happens. No snodgrass spanner’s in the works of the Hearts juggernaut this time. This is where the work of the last 9 months must show up, and show how far we’ve come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 14 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: No surprise. Missing Barrie Mackay out most creative player all season and Gino who has been a massive loss. We also committing less people forward when defending corners. however, I’m sure lembikisa will help massively. And hopefully Baz back soon as well. I think Gino scored as many goals as Shankland if you exclude penalties? Like you say, he was a massive loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 29 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Strange how similar it is results / points wise. After a wobbly start we’ve found good mid season form. It is very similar to last season we had that 10 game unbeaten around xmas January time and went clear in 3rd. So, this is the start of the real challenge now, for the new coaching staff to prove their worth. This is the point where the difference needs to be seen. Got to back it up. Cannot let the momentum slip, as we’ve seen what happens. No snodgrass spanner’s in the works of the Hearts juggernaut this time. This is where the work of the last 9 months must show up, and show how far we’ve come. We've got Rowles, Atkinson, Mackay, Devlin to come back, plus maybe Fraser. As long as we keep Shankland I'm pretty confident, though a victory on Saturday would be the bisiness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveandal Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 We are in a great position, as we were last season. It must be remembered we had Europe then which we coped with very well. Aberdeen haven't. Despite the retoric we are alot more defensive under Naismith than Neilson. But we are getting results. Long may that continue. I can't see a collapse but we will lose games for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 12 minutes ago, scott herbertson said: We've got Rowles, Atkinson, Mackay, Devlin to come back, plus maybe Fraser. As long as we keep Shankland I'm pretty confident, though a victory on Saturday would be the bisiness It’s all about the group mentality for me above individuals. That for me is the big thing which seems to have changed. We had plenty of individual quality last season, scored plenty of goals, but the group mentality went haywire, the way the dressing room splintered and belief evaporated, that was criminal it just should not have happened with the quality we had. For Naisy & co, up till now, has been about first stopping the rot, then making repairs to what was broken. But now it’s about advancing, kicking on and going beyond. Mentally that’s a big step but it is what it is, that is what we must now see for it to be classed as real progress. Saturday is a real big moment in the season, buzzing for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I think its worth seeing the dramatic change in the 2nd round of fixtures from the first. 1st Round of fixtures P W D L F A Pts 11 4 2 5 10 11 14 2nd round of fixtures P W D L F A Pts 11 8 1 2 17 9 25 11 points difference between the two rounds shows how much things have improved. Also shows how much difference our scoring went (where he can improve even more.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Points total is a fallacy, it matters not how many points we get as long as we get third. Getting third on 30 points ( I know it's only an example ) only shows the rest are totally pants, the gains are the same whether we get third on 30 points or 90 points. Third is the bench mark and we should be getting third on a regular basis. This squad has shown they can play, it simply means the tactics and selections are not there. Second half against Dundee showed we can play well if only the correct players are selected and tactics show a more attacking formation. SN has shown he can change a game with subs but it also shows a lacking in the original selection. Too many pointless passes around the defense, not moving the ball forward quickly enough and expecting the likes of Halket to play out from defense has nearly cost us so many times. We also have to get more players in the box when attacking, when defending we need to keep at least one player ( Shanks ) on the half way line. It commits the other team to leave defenders there and gives us an out ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanderMIM Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 If we manage to get 18 points from the remaining 16 games then we will have matched Aberdeens total last season that got them third.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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