Ron Burgundy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 What government in its right mind thinks dropping 50 unvetted all male asylum seekers in a wee rural village of less than 3000 folk is either acceptable or a good idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said: What government in its right mind thinks dropping 50 unvetted all male asylum seekers in a wee rural village of less than 3000 folk is either acceptable or a good idea? https://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/2024/01/08/ballinrobe-hotel-site-to-be-used-for-refugee-families-not-single-men-following-protests/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Well Humza wants to bring Gaza here...he'd probably house them in Whitecraigs and Giffnock... Edited January 8 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, the posh bit said: https://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/2024/01/08/ballinrobe-hotel-site-to-be-used-for-refugee-families-not-single-men-following-protests/ Looks like the protestors have been heard. 50 unemployed single unvetted males in a wee village. What were they thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 48 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Well Humza wants to bring Gaza here...he'd probably house them in Whitecraigs and Giffnock... Great player in his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Plenty of unvetted Ukrainians dropped in many places. Where's the threads on those people. That's right, they're white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, ri Alban said: Plenty of unvetted Ukrainians dropped in many places. Where's the threads on those people. That's right, they're white. Ok Humza, that is what you took from it. I thought Ukrainian men were fighting a war? Have 50 unidentifiable Ukrainian men been dropped into a small rural community of less than 3000? You got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 17 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said: Looks like the protestors have been heard. 50 unemployed single unvetted males in a wee village. What were they thinking? The article implies the change is down to local protesters but then quotes someone saying the change is due to an "acute shortage"of accommodation for families. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: The article implies the change is down to local protesters but then quotes someone saying the change is due to an "acute shortage"of accommodation for families. 🤷♂️ From what I saw on Twitter the protestors stated at the outset they had no problem with families being accommodated but were not accepting a 50 strong unidentified all male group. There is no doubt the men would be in the accommodation now if they hadn't protested IMO. It just seems the craziest idea in the first place. It's not like they were putting them into a city or even a large town. It has a population of less than 3000 ffs. Imagine 50 unemployed men getting dropped off in Danderhall with nothing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 hours ago, ri Alban said: Plenty of unvetted Ukrainians dropped in many places. Where's the threads on those people. That's right, they're white. I know you posted this as a 'gotcha' type comment, but the fact they are white, European and Christian is actually incredibly relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 20 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said: What government in its right mind thinks dropping 50 unvetted all male asylum seekers in a wee rural village of less than 3000 folk is either acceptable or a good idea? A government that hates its own people and is happy to decry them as 'racists' if they dissent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 17 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said: I know you posted this as a 'gotcha' type comment, but the fact they are white, European and Christian is actually incredibly relevant. It is, but it's a discussion that we are increasingly guilt-tripped into feeling uncomfortable about having. There are perfectly valid reasons for this, of course, but it can be counter productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 7 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: So I'll ask again, where do you think we should house them? On a barge in the middle of the Forth with a couple of navy patrol boats circling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, il Duce McTarkin said: It is, but it's a discussion that we are increasingly guilt-tripped into feeling uncomfortable about having. There are perfectly valid reasons for this, of course, but it can be counter productive. Indeed. It is far easier to accommodate Ukrainians than Somalis, Croats than Eritreans, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: I'm pretty sure theyre identified, as they've applied for the asylum system, giving all their details. And even IF you were to work on the assumption that all of them have "lost" their papers, surely the women and families will have the same problem of "losing their papers"? What makes you think that the women are more identifiable? Out of curiosity, where does everyone think we should house them? If it was a hotel of 5 or 10 or 20 there would still be the same anger. So it's not the volume that's the issue. It's that people don't like a lot of brown people coming into their town. So I'll ask again, where do you think we should house them? Absolute nonsense. I won't bother with a reply as your brown people chat is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 We should sent them all back. Even the cowards from ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, New Town Loafer said: Indeed. It is far easier to accommodate Ukrainians than Somalis, Croats than Eritreans, for example. Quite, I was going to ask the Mrs to move out so that I could look after this pair in their hour of need.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Quite, I was going to ask the Mrs to move out so that I could look after this pair in their hour of need.... By Jove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Quite, I was going to ask the Mrs to move out so that I could look after this pair in their hour of need.... "Ask" her to move out?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I note that these migrants are, once more, not being housed in the leafy suburbs of South Dublin. Quelle strange! Still, it means the Irish Times and the politicians can accuse the working classes in Ireland of being 'racist' instead of actually listening to their valid concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: So inhumanely. At least you're honest about it to be fair! Better than @Ron Burgundy who won't answer the simple question. I'll ask again, if not in a hotel, where is acceptable to you Ron, to house asylum seekers? Or is the reason you're not answering because you don't really want any in "your country" regardless of their persecution, but you'd just rather not say that? And what about the many who have suffered zero 'persecution'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 28 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: So inhumanely. At least you're honest about it to be fair! Better than @Ron Burgundy who won't answer the simple question. I'll ask again, if not in a hotel, where is acceptable to you Ron, to house asylum seekers? Or is the reason you're not answering because you don't really want any in "your country" regardless of their persecution, but you'd just rather not say that? Not in a village of less than 3000 in a rural location. There. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: They get returned to their home country as per the United Nations convention for refugees. I don't get the point you're trying to make. My point is that half of these people are not genuine refugees, which is why many people do not want them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: What's a rural location got to do with anything? So it's not because they're single brown men apparently. It's because of the numbers. What's an acceptable number to you in a village of 3000, that you wouldn't be getting your knickers in a teist about? Are you really that daft. 50 most likely single men (otherwise I am sure they would be with their families) stuck in a tiny village that looks pretty remote with not a great deal to do and you don't think that would create problems. How about you offer to put one or two of them up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 Just now, windsor1874 said: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/ Half? No not really. Only 24% were refused asylum status actually. And that was at initial decision, not even after appeal when even more were granted asylum. So the immigratiom system has agreed that the vast majority are persecuted. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good racist moan though. You are so lazy. Calling someone racist when they have said nothing racist is so last year. He's probably a TERF bigot as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 12 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/ Half? No not really. Only 24% were refused asylum status actually. And that was at initial decision, not even after appeal when even more were granted asylum. So the immigratiom system has agreed that the vast majority are persecuted. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good racist moan though. Not sure why you brought up asylum figures for the UK in a discussion about Ireland. And well done for lasting so long without throwing the word 'racist' in 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: "My point is that half of these people are not genuine refugees, which is why many people do not want them". The rejection rate in Ireland's even lower than here! Haha 80% are genuine! Any other tired old cliche you want me to prove wrong again? I am not talking about rejection rates, only you are. That isn't the sole measure of a genuine refugee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 36 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/ Half? No not really. Only 24% were refused asylum status actually. And that was at initial decision, not even after appeal when even more were granted asylum. So the immigratiom system has agreed that the vast majority are persecuted. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good racist moan though. We should mine the Mediterranean Sea and ram any boats coming from North Africa... Europe has taken enough refugees we can't keep taking them forever . Enough is enough !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 We need more posters determined to find racism in amongst genuine, practical concerns imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Jeffros Furios said: We should mine the Mediterranean Sea and ram any boats coming from North Africa... Europe has taken enough refugees we can't keep taking them forever . Enough is enough !! Correct, Jeffros. I reckon those small boats and stream of asylum-o-migrant-seekers would be q great opportunity to test out the strike capabilities of the F-35 Lightening IIs from our spanking new aircraft carriers. As long as they're not hot Ukrainian bursds mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: Still waiting on that alternative system other than the UN of determining if someone is a refugee or not... Haha Thought not. Its quite straightforward..deport every one of them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said: Its quite straightforward..deport every one of them . The ones that are fortunate enough to stagger ashore, that is. Edited January 9 by il Duce McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: thought as much. Just a bunch of racists talking nonsense. Luckily your lot have no power or influence. Yous could always try voting for the Family Party this year. Never know, they might get their deposits back this time! How many single male-of-fighting-age refugees are you putting up in windsor1874 towers, bud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day@theraces Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Out of interest why wasn't there a single woman or child among the 50. Very strange. Reminds of the pictures of asylum seekers coming from the ME a few years back. It was like where's Wally spotting the women,children or over 50's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 13 hours ago, ri Alban said: Plenty of unvetted Ukrainians dropped in many places. Where's the threads on those people. That's right, they're white. I Brought this up on a thread about housing. Skin colour/race makes no difference. Neither should be getting special treatment over Nationals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 26 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: Zero. What's your point caller Nimby socialism that's the point. Everyone's racist except you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: Zero. What's your point caller Your quite argumentative, yet familiar with the forum and it's users. It's almost as if you've been banned under another user name. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 13 hours ago, ri Alban said: Plenty of unvetted Ukrainians dropped in many places. Where's the threads on those people. That's right, they're white. Id take unvetted Ukrainians over that lot every day of the week, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 39 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: Zero. What's your point caller That you'll be all gobby and condescending until half a village of unemployed, non-English speaking blokes with PTSD pitch up next door and start dossing about for the foreseeable. Might be your scene, right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, windsor1874 said: In the sauna at the gym tonight I counted that there was 7 folk, and only two native English speakers. And you know what lads...nobodys bothered! Move on. It's 2024. Oh you are so progressive. I've worked with lived beside friends with folk from everywhere. Guess what no ones bothered. What does bother people is bad planning . Not refugees fault but not the already stretched working communities. Easy for you too call everyone racist just cos you go to gym but do nothing to help . Same as most . And unaffected by the impact. Counting forwigners while you sauna. I'm calling slaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Where were the refugees from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: In the sauna at the gym tonight I counted that there was 7 folk, and only two native English speakers. And you know what lads...nobodys bothered! Move on. It's 2024. Did wee Mehmet spank you with a towel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 8 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: In the sauna at the gym tonight I counted that there was 7 folk, and only two native English speakers. And you know what lads...nobodys bothered! Move on. It's 2024. I'm assuming that you live in a large-ish, cosmopolitan setting and not a rural vilage with a population of 3000 then. You know what, champ, some folk that live in that village were bothered, and their concerns were taken onboard. Now you've exercised your body at the gym, you've exercised your mouth on here, now exercise your mind and move on. It's 2024 and nobody's bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Where were the refugees from? Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, il Duce McTarkin said: Falkirk. Seriously though, where were they coming from? I may have missed it in the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 13 hours ago, ri Alban said: Plenty of unvetted Ukrainians dropped in many places. Where's the threads on those people. That's right, they're white. And actual refugees fleeing from war . Women and children. But you like others just scream racism. You've got spare room mate you mentioned it before. Bash on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: If people on this thread are ok with Ukrainian refugees coming in because they're white but not refugees from mainly black or Arabic countries, then yeah that's racist. Maybe people are more sympathetic to Ukrainians as they are coming from a genuine war zone and and others may not be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: If people on this thread are ok with Ukrainian refugees coming in because they're white but not refugees from mainly black or Arabic countries, then yeah that's racist. No it's not. I'm fine with refugees . I'm nit fine with people like you assuming legitimate concerns are racism. And sweating in a sauna as some proof you are tolerant is wanky. I've sweated and grafted with plenty. It's not a badge to wear like the refugee welcome badges you and the likes of fakes say but don't do nixy about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Maybe people are more sympathetic to Ukrainians as they are coming from a genuine war zone and and others may not be? Or that it's the women and children that have predominantly beens the ones to seek safety. Not young men. And the young men predominantly come from places where women are second class citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 15 minutes ago, windsor1874 said: If people on this thread are ok with Ukrainian refugees coming in because they're white but not refugees from mainly black or Arabic countries, then yeah that's racist. You're fixating on the 'white' bit and ignoring the 'Christian' and 'European' parts, which, when you're dumping 50 blokes into a small village in the ROI, are incredibly relevant where integration may be concerned. Nobody seems to be arsed about the families being 'brown', so it's got **** all to do with skin tone. There's only one poster on this thread with a hard-on about that. Edited January 9 by il Duce McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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