Expectancy

[Ked]

If what we see is what our minds expect to see.

Does that mean we have our own reality ?

And if not and it's shared.

Does that make us easy to control?

Why would we be wired this way?

I watched an experiment about it showing words and speech.

 

[Craig_]

Need to lay off the Toilet Duck, mate. 

[Harry Potter]

1 hour ago, Jim_Duncan said:

That’s what the controllers want, bro. More Toilet Duck will unlock more reality, IMO. 

End up having to see the quack, if you can get an appointment, 😟.

[JudyJudyJudy]

8 hours ago, Ked said:

If what we see is what our minds expect to see.

Does that mean we have our own reality ?

And if not and it's shared.

Does that make us easy to control?

Why would we be wired this way?

I watched an experiment about it showing words and speech.

 

Can I have some of the drugs you were on last night ! You were very deep ! 😂

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Harry Potter said:

End up having to see the quack, if you can get an appointment, 😟.

😂

[superjack]

4 hours ago, Harry Potter said:

End up having to see the quack, if you can get an appointment, 😟.

And not through the NHS either so you end up with a bill.

[henrysmithsgloves]

3 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Can I have some of the drugs you were on last night ! You were very deep ! 😂

[JudyJudyJudy]

15 minutes ago, henrysmithsgloves said:

You dirty minded bugger 😂😂

[Bull's-eye]

10 hours ago, Craig_ said:

Need to lay off the Toilet Duck, mate. 

 

Maybe go for a bit of stink finger before going for a Toilet Duck as its his 1st encounter.

[Ked]

7 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Can I have some of the drugs you were on last night ! You were very deep ! 😂

I've been reading about what the experts know about consciousness. 

It's wild enough without drugs.

 

I've forgotten the name of the latest theory. I read.

And how our minds are measured against rythyms which relate to the big bang .

Along those lines.

 

[Ked]

Just now, Ked said:

I've been reading about what the experts know about consciousness. 

It's wild enough without drugs.

 

I've forgotten the name of the latest theory. I read.

And how our minds are measured against rythyms which relate to the big bang .

Along those lines.

 

Will retrace my steps 😄😚

[Der Kaiser]

Every Terminator movie is set in the past........

[Ked]

8 minutes ago, Ked said:

Will retrace my steps 😄😚

Here it is.

 

https://www.sciencealert.com/human-consciousness-could-be-a-side-effect-of-entropy-study-suggests?fbclid=IwAR39cwoyaBhI-O6vJgGFNfqateIMANCEmoJo425DR_SZDydEy_FeN1L6H1M

[Ked]

Tbf @JudyJudyJudy rereading it does say wild study and it ans late .

Still a guid read though .

 

[rudi must stay]

19 hours ago, Ked said:

If what we see is what our minds expect to see.

Does that mean we have our own reality ?

And if not and it's shared.

Does that make us easy to control?

Why would we be wired this way?

I watched an experiment about it showing words and speech.

 

 

What a time to turn mental 

[Gizmo]

3 hours ago, Ked said:

I've been reading about what the experts know about consciousness. 

It's wild enough without drugs.

 

I've forgotten the name of the latest theory. I read.

And how our minds are measured against rythyms which relate to the big bang .

Along those lines.

 

If entropy and disorder give rise to consciousness, then the Universe has to be self-aware. 

Before you added more posts, I thought you were talking about this:
https://aeon.co/essays/the-universal-forces-of-sound-and-rhythm-enhance-thought-and-feeling

I can get behind everything in the universe being a vibrating string as per string frequency, and the frequency determining matter. Honestly, when you are in tune with the Universe it's like you are harmoniously vibrating at the same frequency and everything is easy.

When you aren't, it's much harder. Sometimes it feels like I can feel every cell in my body being out of kilter when stress or depression are biting hard. Meditation or other methods to relax seem to restore harmony by reducing the frequency at which everything vibrates. Often music will do it - when you are in sync with music, there is no more transcendental feeling for me. It changes one's mental state. 

Shamans believe they can shift energies to higher frequencies. 
Cat purrs have healing properties both to themselves and to humans: https://www.purrfectpost.com/healing-purrs-how-your-cat-can-help-you-heal/#:~:text=Cat purring has been shown,tendon repair%2C and wound healing.  

There is some science here, not just mystical or new-age mumbo-jumbo. 

tl,dr:
 

 

[Tommy Brown]

8 hours ago, superjack said:

And not through the NHS either so you end up with a bill.

Boom boom

A post that needed recognition. 

[OTT]

20 hours ago, Ked said:

If what we see is what our minds expect to see.

Does that mean we have our own reality ?

And if not and it's shared.

Does that make us easy to control?

Why would we be wired this way?

I watched an experiment about it showing words and speech.

 

 

Is this a haiku or something? I'm lost. 

[Ked]

18 hours ago, Gizmo said:

If entropy and disorder give rise to consciousness, then the Universe has to be self-aware. 

Before you added more posts, I thought you were talking about this:
https://aeon.co/essays/the-universal-forces-of-sound-and-rhythm-enhance-thought-and-feeling

I can get behind everything in the universe being a vibrating string as per string frequency, and the frequency determining matter. Honestly, when you are in tune with the Universe it's like you are harmoniously vibrating at the same frequency and everything is easy.

When you aren't, it's much harder. Sometimes it feels like I can feel every cell in my body being out of kilter when stress or depression are biting hard. Meditation or other methods to relax seem to restore harmony by reducing the frequency at which everything vibrates. Often music will do it - when you are in sync with music, there is no more transcendental feeling for me. It changes one's mental state. 

Shamans believe they can shift energies to higher frequencies. 
Cat purrs have healing properties both to themselves and to humans: https://www.purrfectpost.com/healing-purrs-how-your-cat-can-help-you-heal/#:~:text=Cat purring has been shown,tendon repair%2C and wound healing.  

There is some science here, not just mystical or new-age mumbo-jumbo. 

tl,dr:
 

 

Thanks. 

Will look at this and hopefully related stuff.

I enjoy trying to model in my mind the universe.

😄

As much as it blows my mind it is in a similar way to you a buzz.

I remember the first time I learned that the atoms in my body bounce about the whole place.

🫨

[Ked]

18 hours ago, rudi must stay said:

 

What a time to turn mental 

Maybe buddy.

I've never been far away from that.

Just an auld radge now.

😄

[Ked]

18 hours ago, OTT said:

 

Is this a haiku or something? I'm lost. 

If you read the link it explains it better .

You'll be no less lost though.

[Ked]

https://aeon.co/essays/the-universal-forces-of-sound-and-rhythm-enhance-thought-and-feeling

 

@Gizmo

The first paragraph how the author sees in sounds .

You I take it are the same.

I am definitely more image led .

I have in my head a 4 dimensional view .

But struggle with layers you spoke off.

😀

The authors mindset is really interesting.

I'm trying to post as I read but I'm just away to read it properly.

Good stuff 

 

[Ked]

you break down the 12,000 lines of Plato’s Republic into 12 sections of 1,000 lines each, each equivalent to a note on a scale, you will find explicit references to harmony, music, pitch and song recurring at precisely the most consonant intervals. Darker themes, relating to war and death, emerge at dissonant intervals.

I've had to stop reading for the moment.

This was as far as I got. 

But the guys failure to comprehend image meant he could still comprehend literature through sound.

Is that wtf or no?

😀

I need a rest .

[Gizmo]

1 hour ago, Ked said:

you break down the 12,000 lines of Plato’s Republic into 12 sections of 1,000 lines each, each equivalent to a note on a scale, you will find explicit references to harmony, music, pitch and song recurring at precisely the most consonant intervals. Darker themes, relating to war and death, emerge at dissonant intervals.

I've had to stop reading for the moment.

This was as far as I got. 

But the guys failure to comprehend image meant he could still comprehend literature through sound.

Is that wtf or no?

😀

I need a rest .

This isn't something I experience but thinking in senses is a known thing - some people will associate colours or tastes with people or places.

Also, another thing that I find interesting about "conscious thought" is that some people do not have an inner monologue and do not think to themselves or talk through plans as if narrating. Having one is rarer than not, although it's only an estimate of between 30 to 50% having one. 

[That thing you do]

On 11/11/2023 at 02:39, Ked said:

If what we see is what our minds expect to see.

Does that mean we have our own reality ?

And if not and it's shared.

Does that make us easy to control?

Why would we be wired this way?

I watched an experiment about it showing words and speech.

 

Interesting debate

 

As is are we a simulation

 

Its very hard to measure whether individual realities are different or not but I do think humans are easy to manipulate, very easy.

 

Look at how easily ordinary germans were comfortable with Nazism.

 

Most people are sheeple and few actually think for themselves, as opposed to taking what they should think from the media.

 

We have been wired this way because society including our school days condition us to serve the ruling classes 

 

Make yourself wealthy or make others wealthy.  

 

 

 

[Ked]

2 hours ago, That thing you do said:

Interesting debate

 

As is are we a simulation

 

Its very hard to measure whether individual realities are different or not but I do think humans are easy to manipulate, very easy.

 

Look at how easily ordinary germans were comfortable with Nazism.

 

Most people are sheeple and few actually think for themselves, as opposed to taking what they should think from the media.

 

We have been wired this way because society including our school days condition us to serve the ruling classes 

 

Make yourself wealthy or make others wealthy.  

 

 

 

So are we programmed like ants ?

What is nature's course here?

As much as I hate the vandalism we've been responsible for as a species are we the earth's seed ?

 

Are we nature's way ?

The Earth only has a certain lifespan and only a certain amount of time to support life if you look at other planets.

Sorry 8 can't help but go deep.

As horrible as the brutal expansion of human progress is its a reflection of life in general.

It's isn't pleasant and it isn't nice.

However things flourish when it is.

How contradictory. 

It's funny how that is.

 

 

[Ked]

6 hours ago, That thing you do said:

Interesting debate

 

As is are we a simulation

 

Its very hard to measure whether individual realities are different or not but I do think humans are easy to manipulate, very easy.

 

Look at how easily ordinary germans were comfortable with Nazism.

 

Most people are sheeple and few actually think for themselves, as opposed to taking what they should think from the media.

 

We have been wired this way because society including our school days condition us to serve the ruling classes 

 

Make yourself wealthy or make others wealthy.  

 

 

 

Sorry for the previous trippy reply.

 

I meant in this way

 

https://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2009/09/does-evolution-explain-our-behaviour/#:~:text=Evolutionary psychology assumes that human,the genome will preferentially survive.