Nucky Thompson Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Now and Then The Beatles 'final song' Now And Then - featuring all four members - released | Ents & Arts News | Sky News Thoughts? I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Sounds like if someone who was good in a recording studio was asked to write a Beatles pastiche with good musicians to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Why not? It's quite something to release a new and last song from a band that split up 53 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I’m on the fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 I've listened to it about half a dozen times now and it does grow on you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Not bad! Harrison is not beside Lennon, I do believe in all but one photo/clip, just coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I can't yet, I thought they did a really good job with Free as a bird in the 90s but 30 years on from even that feels like a stretch. I'll give it a lug when I can get past all that. I know that comes across as wanky, but this is the Beatles! Or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Its not earth-shatteringly brilliant in itself, but its the story behind it that makes it remarkable. Apparently Yoko found a fairly basic demo recording JL had made of the song and she contacted Paul McCartney. Today's released version has an impressive orchestral arrangement over it. Not sure the role of AI, tbh - maybe to enhance JL's voice & pitch perhaps ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Bland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Load of shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 It’s the Beatles. Therefore, it’s beige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister T Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Love the Beatles but it's a bit of a 🙉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Not getting the hype at all. Total w@nkfest about it on Radio 6 today while I'm sitting thinking "is that it?". Anyway, what I know about the Beatles you could write down on a fag paper but this is just bland to me. Give me I am the Walrus or Paperback Writer any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Ringo and McCartney skint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Huge Beatles fan. However, I don't see how it can be termed a Beatles song. Written and recorded in 1978, apparently, by Lennon, with no McCartney in sight. It is, at best, a John Lennon song that he clearly didn't think much of and had no intention of taking any further. The Beatles have broken up. John and George are no longer with us. They are not getting back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 13 hours ago, Lone Striker said: Its not earth-shatteringly brilliant in itself, but its the story behind it that makes it remarkable. Apparently Yoko found a fairly basic demo recording JL had made of the song and she contacted Paul McCartney. Today's released version has an impressive orchestral arrangement over it. Not sure the role of AI, tbh - maybe to enhance JL's voice & pitch perhaps ? The AI was used to isolate the vocals. The original demo is on YouTube, but for some reason I can't open it on my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 It was mostly written by JL so bland in the extreme. Totally dislike it, It would have been best deleted. If Yoko did not have a hand in it, it might have been at least ordinary, but she was a talent drainer, she has some sort of reverse Midas touch on talent. Even the Blessed Paul could not polish this turd. Sure fire nostalgic number one though, if such a thing still exists, music stopped for me after 1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, martoon said: Huge Beatles fan. However, I don't see how it can be termed a Beatles song. Written and recorded in 1978, apparently, by Lennon, with no McCartney in sight. It is, at best, a John Lennon song that he clearly didn't think much of and had no intention of taking any further. The Beatles have broken up. John and George are no longer with us. They are not getting back together. They didn't write together, they just agreed that both their names would be on all compositions. Lennon/McCartney songs were either/or. Not that different from any other in that sense. Edited November 3, 2023 by ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 As a massive Beatles fan I was desperate to like it. Tried a few times now and, well, it's okayish but something doesn't sit right with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Watched a short film about how the song came about, very interesting and worth a watch. The actual song though, meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gentleman Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 15 hours ago, Lone Striker said: Its not earth-shatteringly brilliant in itself, but its the story behind it that makes it remarkable. Apparently Yoko found a fairly basic demo recording JL had made of the song and she contacted Paul McCartney. Today's released version has an impressive orchestral arrangement over it. Not sure the role of AI, tbh - maybe to enhance JL's voice & pitch perhaps ? You've missed the point of it. It's not about 'enhancement' of anything. It's about monetisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 10 hours ago, martoon said: Huge Beatles fan. However, I don't see how it can be termed a Beatles song. Written and recorded in 1978, apparently, by Lennon, with no McCartney in sight. It is, at best, a John Lennon song that he clearly didn't think much of and had no intention of taking any further. The Beatles have broken up. John and George are no longer with us. They are not getting back together. You can’t be that much of a huge Beatles fan. A lot of, particularly later material, was written solo with minimal input from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: You can’t be that much of a huge Beatles fan. A lot of, particularly later material, was written solo with minimal input from others. Well aware of that liam. However, I still don't see how a song written by Lennon in 1978 can be The Beatles and, assuming it is, credit shared with McCartney. It's a John Lennon solo work or perhaps, as was sometimes the case, credit shared with Yoko. Iirc, Free as a Bird in the 90's was added to by McCartney with the "Whatever happened to..." bridge. That made it Lennon & McCartney and a Beatles track. Well, up to a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said: They didn't write together, they just agreed that both their names would be on all compositions. Lennon/McCartney songs were either/or. Not that different from any other in that sense. Aware of that, bud. However, the credit share obviously didn't apply to stuff they wrote and recorded after the Beatles broke up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, martoon said: Aware of that, bud. However, the credit share obviously didn't apply to stuff they wrote and recorded after the Beatles broke up. Of course, but Free as a bird was the same deal except George was around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Nothing will prepare you for this video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) It's good hearing John Lennon again, but let's face it, if it wasn't him, or the beatles, it wouldn't be remembered for long. Apart from that though, it's pretty epic haha Edited November 3, 2023 by Greedy Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Quite like the story behind this song being made, however, I feel it's a pile of shite. I was never a fan of them though, I just feel they are so over rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Here's a live Frattellis song, it's not even one of there best ones, and it's still better than AI John Lennon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 On 03/11/2023 at 06:30, Ray Gin said: Bland. Being kind.....! Also heard two tracks of the new Stones album . . . . Personally think it's dreadful . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Nothing will prepare you for this video. The song isn’t earth shattering but when you put it with the video it is quite touching, especially if you are a Beatles fan. Edited November 4, 2023 by hmfc_liam06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Section Q said: Also heard two tracks of the new Stones album . . . . Personally think it's dreadful . . . Do you think they're starting the lose the rawness amd edge that comes with youth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 hours ago, superjack said: Do you think they're starting the lose the rawness amd edge that comes with youth? Aye, never mind mars bars, Mick Jagger's sooking soup from colostomy bags these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, superjack said: Do you think they're starting the lose the rawness amd edge that comes with youth? When they toured Australia about 20 years ago, my wife was working in the medical industry and knew the cardiologist who was stage side during their performances. It was a condition of their insurance coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said: The song isn’t earth shattering but when you put it with the video it is quite touching, especially if you are a Beatles fan. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Section Q said: Being kind.....! Also heard two tracks of the new Stones album . . . . Personally think it's dreadful . . . I think the album is superb, it’s got a great mix of all their sounds through the eras. And Sweet Sound of Heaven with Lady Gaga is up there with Gimme Shelter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 4 hours ago, superjack said: Do you think they're starting the lose the rawness amd edge that comes with youth? I remember going to see them in with 89 or 90 at Hampden as I thought I should go and see them before they retire. Now doing the sums they were only in their late 40’s then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Tazio said: I remember going to see them in with 89 or 90 at Hampden as I thought I should go and see them before they retire. Now doing the sums they were only in their late 40’s then. It's mental when you think about it. Jagger is older than my mother in law, who's in a nursing home, not knowing who anyone is, while sat in her pish. In fact, he's probably older than most of the other inmates she's in with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 11 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said: The song isn’t earth shattering but when you put it with the video it is quite touching, especially if you are a Beatles fan. The video is very good. On Apple Music there is a documentary too showing the process behind the song and how the Get Back documentary kickstarted this last project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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