The Ultimate Worrier Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Well done to the Met. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Good stuff well done the Government and police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Good stuff well done the Government and police Did Suella nip out and nab him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: Good stuff well done the Government and police Do educate us in what role they played in catching him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Lone Striker said: Do educate us in what role they played in catching him ? The same Government he escaped under! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: The same Government he escaped under! Zackley! If they had applied a fraction of the funding to public services as they have to lining their cronies' pockets, the likelihood of such a prison break would have been much lower. I know the spot they nabbed very well; about a 15 minute cycle ride from Knightley Towers; 20 mins in this heat. Very odd that he was just out there cycling along the towpath. Had he been diagnosed as simple? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Escaped in food truck disguised as a kebab 🍢 apparently 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: The same Government he escaped under! Indeed. But in Manalive's world, Tories only deserve credit, never the blame. Its surprising that he didn't blame the SNP for the guy's escape - still time though. 😉 16 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: Zackley! If they had applied a fraction of the funding to public services as they have to lining their cronies' pockets, the likelihood of such a prison break would have been much lower. I know the spot they nabbed very well; about a 15 minute cycle ride from Knightley Towers; 20 mins in this heat. Very odd that he was just out there cycling along the towpath. Had he been diagnosed as simple? So had he just nicked a bike from somewhere ? Some ex-police & prison folk were saying only yesterday that he appeared to be very resourceful because no-one had reported seeing him, and that meant he probably had outside assistance. If Wandsworth is infested with RAAC, there could be hundreds of inmates fancying their chances of escape now. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: Zackley! If they had applied a fraction of the funding to public services as they have to lining their cronies' pockets, the likelihood of such a prison break would have been much lower. I know the spot they nabbed very well; about a 15 minute cycle ride from Knightley Towers; 20 mins in this heat. Very odd that he was just out there cycling along the towpath. Had he been diagnosed as simple? A member of the public spotted him in that locale in the wee small hours on his bike and phoned the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: A member of the public spotted him in that locale in the wee small hours on his bike and phoned the police. Public sightings the main reason he was caught. Police used the public. Though unless he had help to get out of country he would have been caught eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Public sightings the main reason he was caught. Police used the public. Though unless he had help to get out of country he would have been caught eventually. He doesn't seem to be a criminal mastermind, or am I underestimating him? Ronnie Biggs managed to get to Brazil. This guy was cycling around with a sleeping bag and a Waitrose cool bag, only a couple of miles from the prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: He doesn't seem to be a criminal mastermind, or am I underestimating him? Ronnie Biggs managed to get to Brazil. This guy was cycling around with a sleeping bag and a Waitrose cool bag, only a couple of miles from the prison. Folk were reacting to the "terrorist " label : he was a very average spy. He wasn't a threat to anyone (which is why he was allowed to work in the prison kitchens) and the Met guy who spoke about him as if he was some kind of James Bond figure due to his British army past was laughable. I thik he just got lucky in his escape and had no real plan of what to do if/when he made it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 59 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: If Wandsworth is infested with RAAC, there could be hundreds of inmates fancying their chances of escape now. 😀 The convicts would be digging their way out with teaspoons I think we're safe, though. RAAC was a thing of the 1950s and I understand that these big. old jails have had no construction work done since Victoria was on the throne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 The good old Met : an arrest and a friendly hand job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: He doesn't seem to be a criminal mastermind, or am I underestimating him? Ronnie Biggs managed to get to Brazil. This guy was cycling around with a sleeping bag and a Waitrose cool bag, only a couple of miles from the prison. People speculated he could have got help from the Iranian Government who certainly have special forces operating in UK. But the story today suggests not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, periodictabledancer said: The good old Met : an arrest and a friendly hand job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 hours ago, I P Knightley said: The convicts would be digging their way out with teaspoons I think we're safe, though. RAAC was a thing of the 1950s and I understand that these big. old jails have had no construction work done since Victoria was on the throne. Yes.... which I believe is giving rise to other issues such as prison overcrowding because the old thick stone blocks are too difficult to remove and re-configure while the prison is in use. Most prisons are operating at 130% (plus) capacity, boosted by arrested folk awaiting trial - so no chance of temporarily adding the inmates of another jail while it gets refurbished/rebuilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Yes.... which I believe is giving rise to other issues such as prison overcrowding because the old thick stone blocks are too difficult to remove and re-configure while the prison is in use. Most prisons are operating at 130% (plus) capacity, boosted by arrested folk awaiting trial - so no chance of temporarily adding the inmates of another jail while it gets refurbished/rebuilt. Ten of thousands of prisoners are in Police stations because there is no space in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Ten of thousands of prisoners are in Police stations because there is no space in prison. aye millions probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Ten of thousands of prisoners are in Police stations because there is no space in prison. "Tens of thousands" using up to 400 cells? https://insidetime.org/prisoners-to-be-held-in-police-cells/ A minimun of 25 per cell aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 17 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Good stuff well done the Government and police The police should have arrested Wee Sanook the Crook and his mob of thieves while they were at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Don’t see the big deal in how this guy got so much publicity…you’d think he was some terror mastermind when it looks like he just seen a chance to jump under the van and chance his luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: People speculated he could have got help from the Iranian Government who certainly have special forces operating in UK. But the story today suggests not. He is accused of planting fake bombs on the army base where was stationed and 'gathering' information which would be valuable to a foreign power. Gathering but not passing? He sounds a bit more of a Walter Mitty than an Osama Bin Laden..... Still illegal what he did but he wasn't a convicted 'terrorist'. Yet again 24 hour news coverage with space to fill has a lot to answer for, although it does help to put pressure on the escapee with public awareness. Edited September 10, 2023 by Daktari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_fae_Gillie Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, theshed said: Don’t see the big deal in how this guy got so much publicity…you’d think he was some terror mastermind when it looks like he just seen a chance to jump under the van and chance his luck He served as junior rank in Royal Signals no great military training but his access to information would be greater than most soldiers huge threat as a traitor less as an actual hands on terrorist. Does seem to be a bampot dreamer far more is been made of this escape by the media thx to use of "terrorist" the police/Army probably more worried about any files he has nicked and was willing to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Daktari said: He is accused of planting fake bombs on the army base where was stationed and 'gathering' information which would be valuable to a foreign power. Gathering but not passing? He sounds a bit more of a Walter Mitty than an Osama Bin Laden..... Still illegal what he did but he wasn't a convicted 'terrorist'. Yet again 24 hour news coverage with space to fill has a lot to answer for, although it does help to put pressure on the escapee with public awareness. gbnews summing it all up rather nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Don't let him escape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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