ericthepen Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I don't think any "change" they try to implement, will make a blind bit of difference we'll never get away from asking for a pint or saying we traveled so many miles. Biggest con though, was getting us to buy petrol in liters, as opposed to gallons, circa £1.75 per liter now which would be around £7 a gallon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 2 hours ago, ericthepen said: I don't think any "change" they try to implement, will make a blind bit of difference we'll never get away from asking for a pint or saying we traveled so many miles. Biggest con though, was getting us to buy petrol in liters, as opposed to gallons, circa £1.75 per liter now which would be around £7 a gallon. It's strange how we buy petrol by the litre, but fuel consumption is still measured in mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 I have no idea how much a gallon is - I can picture a litre as I buy drinks in that size - but no idea on a gallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Bigsmak said: I have no idea how much a gallon is - I can picture a litre as I buy drinks in that size - but no idea on a gallon Same. When folk go on about miles to the gallon I haven't got a scooby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Why have TV screen sizes never been metricised? Even countries which have never used imperial measurements use inches when it comes to selling TVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Whats 8 inches in cm? Not asking for a friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I used to love a gallon of beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I'm off out for some pints not whatever the lightweights in the U.S. call their half measures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 03/06/2022 at 05:43, Harry Potter said: Certainly easier to work with, still weigh myself in stones and pounds 😀. metric better for working out an area for wooden flooring, tiles, can use both for fuel. Both units of mass not weight funnily enough. Same applies to kg. Everyone thinks what they see on the scales is what they 'weigh', it isn't, it's how much 'mass' you have based on the local gravitional force. The scales have to add a fiddle factor to account for gravity in order to convert what it actually measures (force or 'weight' pushing down onto it) into the number you read (mass). Thats why if you took scales calibrated for Earth onto the moon and stepped on them it would read completely different. You haven't lost any mass, but the force pushing you down onto the scales is no longer there. Hence the idea of weightlessness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Metric. The only thing in imperial is milk and beer. Anything else is crazy talk from the dark ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Bigsmak said: I have no idea how much a gallon is - I can picture a litre as I buy drinks in that size - but no idea on a gallon If you've ever used a petrol can, that could be your point of reference. I've converted myself to weighing in kg. Basically because 16st became 17st and I thought if I talked a different language, it wouldn't be so depressing. When I cycle, I use km, for a similar reason. 20km sounds more impressive that 13.5 miles. I'm less bothered when driving but my expenses are per mile so that makes more sense. As someone else said, the golf course comes in yards. I played Evian (on the Lake Geneva shoreline*) a couple of years ago with a French lad. He talked me round the course in yards, to my surprise. His explanation was that he follows so much golf on the TV, its his way to think of it. * - I know it's Montreux but that was my earworm on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Jonkel Hoon said: Whats 8 inches in cm? Not asking for a friend 20cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 7 hours ago, John Findlay said: 20cm 6 hours ago, jonesy said: Ha! I hiked the Great Glen Way last week and changed my map app from km to miles halfway through because I felt the 'smaller' numbers were somehow kinder to my mental notion of how far I had to go. so 20cm is 8 inches and 20km is 13.5 miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I’d like to add that a Metric Star Destroyer just sounds silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said: I’d like to add that a Metric Star Destroyer just sounds silly. Metric Leather sounds OK, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Metric Leather sounds OK, though. One of Judas Priest’s better albums, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said: One of Judas Priest’s better albums, IMO. What is this "better" of which you speak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ulysses said: What is this "better" of which you speak? Those who know, know. Spoiler I don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Give them a cm, they'll take a km. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Could never imagine talking about golf in metres, 300 yard drive,😏 not got a clue, always miles between towns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 68.54% (nearly 69 😏) are the silent majority and voice of reason. Such a non issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 "Identity politics is everything that's wrong with the UK today harumph!" "We're going back to Imperial measures, as part of Our Great British Identity, huzzah!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Bigsmak said: so 20cm is 8 inches and 20km is 13.5 miles 20km is twelve miles. 10km is 6 miles. 22.4km is 13.5 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, John Findlay said: 20km is twelve miles. 10km is 6 miles. 22.4km is 13.5 miles. 20km is 12.4 miles 10km is 6.2 miles 22.4 km is 13.9 miles A mile is near as dammit 1.6km and the most reliable way to work it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Tazio said: 20km is 12.4 miles 10km is 6.2 miles 22.4 km is 13.9 miles A mile is near as dammit 1.6km and the most reliable way to work it out. Going to confuse our athletes. Running 100 yards instead of 100m 1500m? Where the hell did that come from. 3 miles instead of 5000m. They would get better times as they are all shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 09:58, Bigsmak said: I have no idea how much a gallon is - I can picture a litre as I buy drinks in that size - but no idea on a gallon 5 litres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Cade said: "Identity politics is everything that's wrong with the UK today harumph!" "We're going back to Imperial measures, as part of Our Great British Identity, huzzah!" Cultural ,identity politics is pretty much the only thing to separate the mainstream parties. In so much as there's not much they all do in practice regarding the fundamentals. They're no longer running the show in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonfiveone Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Ked said: 5 litres 4.546 litres to be more accurate = 1 imperial gallon = 8 imperial pints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Wonfiveone said: 4.546 litres to be more accurate = 1 imperial gallon = 8 imperial pints. 1 imperial gallon is = to 8 pints... - Didn't know this either. These numbers are all just really not intuitive. This is why I prefer the metric system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 15 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: Going to confuse our athletes. Running 100 yards instead of 100m 1500m? Where the hell did that come from. 3 miles instead of 5000m. They would get better times as they are all shorter. British athletes failing to take any medals as they stop a few cm short of the tape. My guess is that 1500m is the "metric mile". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Bigsmak said: 1 imperial gallon is = to 8 pints... - Didn't know this either. These numbers are all just really not intuitive. This is why I prefer the metric system I knew that one well. In my student days, there was the 'gallon club' at the Diggers for those who could get outside of 8 pints of the good stuff of an evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, I P Knightley said: British athletes failing to take any medals as they stop a few cm short of the tape. My guess is that 1500m is the "metric mile". yeah, but a mile is 1609m 4 laps = 1600m why not have this. Always thought it strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: yeah, but a mile is 1609m 4 laps = 1600m why not have this. Always thought it strange If you ever saw me, you'd know that I'm in no position to speak authoritatively on matters athletic. Other than the Athletic Arms, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: yeah, but a mile is 1609m 4 laps = 1600m why not have this. Always thought it strange i think it is due to the french involvement of the oylmpic games. they preferred a 500m track and that would explain why it is 1500m as it would have been 3 laps, something that i think happened in the 1900 paris olympics as i believe the french actually made the tack 500 m long. the 400m was kept probably from either the length of track that us and usa etc used and it made sense with the initial doubling of race distance (100m, 200m, 400m then 800m) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 When you work in engineering, you see lots of imperial Pipe sizes and pipe threads are imperial. Started as an apprentice in 1979, suddenly making parts in inches and imperial threads fter being taught metric from day 1. you were taught feet and inches £/s/p, but it all stopped after decimalisation. I assume the cost involved in road signs changed to Km outweighed it's use. We were filling in gallons when I started driving 30+ years ago. Still prefer my weight in Stones/pounds and my height in Feet/Inches. But happy at any other weights in Kg. Prefer metric for measuring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 22 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: Going to confuse our athletes. Running 100 yards instead of 100m 1500m? Where the hell did that come from. 3 miles instead of 5000m. They would get better times as they are all shorter. The Olympic Games has always used metric measures in Athletics, while the Commonwealth (Empire) Games only converted to metric in 1970 at Meadowbank. Prior to that, the events were 100yds, 220yds 880yds, 1 mile, 3 miles, 6 miles etc. Oddly, they ran 3,000 metres in the steeplechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: The Olympic Games has always used metric measures in Athletics, while the Commonwealth (Empire) Games only converted to metric in 1970 at Meadowbank. Prior to that, the events were 100yds, 220yds 880yds, 1 mile, 3 miles, 6 miles etc. Oddly, they ran 3,000 metres in the steeplechase. Good stuff FF. 70 Commonwealth Games is oldest I really remember. Stewart and McCafferty beating Kip Keino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: Good stuff FF. 70 Commonwealth Games is oldest I really remember. Stewart and McCafferty beating Kip Keino. Kip Keino won both the 1 Mile and 3 Miles events in the 1966 games in Kingston, Jamaica, before winning the 1500 metres gold at Meadowbank. Scotland's Jim Alder won the Marathon and also picked up a bronze in the 6 Miles. Edited June 6, 2022 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Explained to 2 Venezuelans and an Ecuadorian in the office the other day about how we measure things. They were firing questions at me and I was responding - became ridiculous I have to say Wheels on a car - inches Grooves In between the rubber - mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthepen Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 06/06/2022 at 12:07, Tommy Brown said: When you work in engineering, you see lots of imperial Engineering inches tend to be in thous of an inch though, easier than 1/16th of an inch etc. Calculation for PSI, POM,steel camber, and the like, were still previous to 1971 in old imperial measurement. Thankfully changed to metric when I was doing engineering exams. South Africa and USA, poss Aus, I believe still use imperial but measure in tenths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) On 04/06/2022 at 12:55, trotter said: Both units of mass not weight funnily enough. Same applies to kg. Everyone thinks what they see on the scales is what they 'weigh', it isn't, it's how much 'mass' you have based on the local gravitional force. The scales have to add a fiddle factor to account for gravity in order to convert what it actually measures (force or 'weight' pushing down onto it) into the number you read (mass). Thats why if you took scales calibrated for Earth onto the moon and stepped on them it would read completely different. You haven't lost any mass, but the force pushing you down onto the scales is no longer there. Hence the idea of weightlessness. I mean, this is not correct. Pound is used both as a measurement of mass and ‘weight’ (ie force). It’s a perfect case study in why imperial units are dog shit. An lb is both a kg and a N, which is awful. In engineering it’s critical you are able to track complex calculations using the units to ensure you’ve put all the elements in the right place. This is so simple in metric, but nearly impossible in imperial. Edited June 9, 2022 by Captain Sausage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ri Alban Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Captain Sausage said: I mean, this is not correct. Pound is used both as a measurement of mass and ‘weight’ (ie force). It’s a perfect case study in why imperial units are dog shit. An lb is both a kg and a N, which is awful. In engineering it’s critical you are able to track complex calculations using the units to ensure you’ve put all the elements in the right place. This is so simple in metric, but nearly impossible in imperial. I remember that bridge in Italy collapsed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Captain Sausage said: I mean, this is not correct. Pound is used both as a measurement of mass and ‘weight’ (ie force). It’s a perfect case study in why imperial units are dog shit. An lb is both a kg and a N, which is awful. In engineering it’s critical you are able to track complex calculations using the units to ensure you’ve put all the elements in the right place. This is so simple in metric, but nearly impossible in imperial. Yeah, the fact that both lb/lb(f) and kg/kg(f) are separate and distinct units is illogical at best and downright lunacy at worst. Don't even get me started on heat transfer coefficients: Btu/s-ft2-°F. It looks like a cat has walked across your keyboard ffs. Edited June 9, 2022 by trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I remember that bridge in Italy collapsed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, ericthepen said: Engineering inches tend to be in thous of an inch though, easier than 1/16th of an inch etc. Calculation for PSI, POM,steel camber, and the like, were still previous to 1971 in old imperial measurement. Thankfully changed to metric when I was doing engineering exams. South Africa and USA, poss Aus, I believe still use imperial but measure in tenths. A mate of mine - an old school mechanical fitter - once told me that imperial units still exist because 'you can't see metric'. He sort of has a point. If I saw you in the street and I asked you how tall I was you would likely say 'about 6 feet' rather than 'about 1.8 m'. Edited June 9, 2022 by trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dawnrazor Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, trotter said: A mate of mine - an old school mechanical fitter - once told me that imperial units still exist because 'you can't see metric'. He sort of has a point. If I saw you in the street and I asked you how tall I was you would likely say 'about 6 feet' rather than 'about 1.8 m'. I get that, I was taught imperial measurements at school but worked with men who still used imperial. I think in imperial still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, trotter said: A mate of mine - an old school mechanical fitter - once told me that imperial units still exist because 'you can't see metric'. He sort of has a point. If I saw you in the street and I asked you how tall I was you would likely say 'about 6 feet' rather than 'about 1.8 m'. I'd say c.180cm personally. I'm 189cm, I never use feet and inches Apart from TVs and tyres 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Taffin said: I'd say c.180cm personally. I'm 189cm, I never use feet and inches Apart from TVs and tyres 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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