Rangers Budget

[LarrysRightFoot]

6 minutes ago, buzzbomb1958 said:

There must be a lot of jiggery pokery going on if that’s true

Here’s the new rules - https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12584543/uefas-new-financial-sustainability-regulations-to-replace-ffp-all-you-need-to-know

[ToadKiller Dog]

12 hours ago, Mysterion said:

The idea that Rangers don't spend money is a joke.

 

They can potentially bring in some players for free but their advantage is when they are able to pay out big wages.

 

This video explains all that is wrong with the finances of the finances in league. 

 

 

 

 

 

The major point the guy makes from that video is "the keague is broken " but you won't here any pundit argue that ,any sports journalist ,explayer .

And short of the Uglies going elsewhere its not fixable .

[doctor jambo]

9 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said:

What a load of guff.

ok some of them were free or cheap.

The more salient point is - if they are free could hearts have afforded any of them?

the answer of course is no.

Put up a graphic of the hearts team yesterday with their costs and ask if rangers could have afforded any of them and the answer is, of course, yes. All of them, without searching down the sofa.

Its the wages that are important .

Even the free agents in that side are unaffordable.

 

[Martin_T]

https://youtu.be/LUpmblcJy3s

 

This is an excellent video on this subject. In summary the proportionate differences in budget between the 'Old Firm' and the rest, mean it's pretty much a major upset whenever they don't win a game against the rest.

 

Taking the 2019/20 season as an example, in the EPL Liverpool (who won the league) spent 1.65:1 for every pound 5th placed Leicester spent.

 

By contrast, in Scotland Celtic were 15:1 relative to 3rd placed Motherwell.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 22, 2022 by Martin_T

[Glamorgan Jambo]

Of course Sevco can afford to spend more than us and within the framework of Scottish football that’s more of a question of wages than transfer fees.

 

The point is they’ve spent way more than they’ve taken in these last few years. Gerrard was reportedly ‘frustrated’ at the lack of extra budget this season. This season will be a good one financially for them as they certainly got a lot of money for Gerrard and co. Time will also tell what they got for Patterson and how much they cleared from the Europa League run.

 

The point is any club spending beyond its means will pay the price. As they did ten years ago, we did, and even Barcelona now.

 

I’m just disappointed as out of the last three finals we had our strongest team yesterday compared to 2019 and 2020 but were further away from winning than we were in these two games where we competed well (and I know we went to ET yesterday and didn’t in 2019).

 

Back to Sevco their recruitment and outgoings will be crucial this summer. I’m far from convinced they’ve done well in this department recently.

[JDK2020]

11 hours ago, WheatfieldWarrior said:

 

Kent £6.5M

Roofe £4.5M

Hagi £3.15M

Itten £2.7M

Bacuna £2M

Helander £3M

Goldson £3M

Barisic £2.2M

Katic £2M

 

And god only knows what they spent on loaning Ramsay.

 

 

The fact is though they got to a euro final without about 6 of those players featuring much or at all (I think) and in every round against notable European teams with bigger spends and higher wage bills. 

And indeed about six of those never featured yesterday.

The difference yesterday was in the desire and drive of one team being very much more in evidence than the other.  It was to be expected that they would be on a downer after a defeat in  120 mins and pens in extreme heat only three days before but it was the well rested Hearts players who were breathing out their arses from midway through the second half. 

Having budgets bigger than opponents don't guarantee success, as Hearts have found in recent cup ties against teams with tinier budgets.

Edited May 22, 2022 by JDK2020

[Jambo in Bathgate]

1 hour ago, JDK2020 said:

 

 

The fact is though they got to a euro final without about 6 of those players featuring much or at all (I think) and in every round against notable European teams with bigger spends and higher wage bills. 

And indeed about six of those never featured yesterday.

The difference yesterday was in the desire and drive of one team being very much more in evidence than the other.  It was to be expected that they would be on a downer after a defeat in  120 mins and pens in extreme heat only three days before but it was the well rested Hearts players who were breathing out their arses from midway through the second half. 

Having budgets bigger than opponents don't guarantee success, as Hearts have found in recent cup ties against teams with tinier budgets.

That’s true. But they had players who made a difference when they came on due to the much larger budget. That’s the reason Souttar is going to them he can earn at least 3 times our best wage. To compete in one of game you have to have all your players at the top of their game. We had in my opinion yesterday a number who have been carrying injuries. Unfortunately we don’t have the depth of squad to affect the game in a similar way to Rangers. The best way for any team outside of the bigots to win the cup is for them to be knocked out in early rounds. We are then have a more level playing field. 

[briever]

15 hours ago, JennytheJambo said:

Just been speaking to a Rangers Supporter (family relation) 😞 who said that they haven’t spent mega bucks and that their recruitment is good, the two goal scorers today cost next to nothing from Aberdeen. Am I missing something are they not in debt? paying out on big salaries. 

 

How did they get those players from Aberdeen though?  Wages - that's the major difference now.

[The Treasurer]

8 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Your last sentence is spot on. 
Using budgets to justify spineless cup final performances is very Hibs. 

Might as well just let the old firm contest every final from now on. 

We were far from our best yesterday, no argument there, but to say we were spineless is an insult to the squad that gave their all over the season but ran out of steam at the last hurdle 

[The Treasurer]

2 hours ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

Of course Sevco can afford to spend more than us and within the framework of Scottish football that’s more of a question of wages than transfer fees.

 

The point is they’ve spent way more than they’ve taken in these last few years. Gerrard was reportedly ‘frustrated’ at the lack of extra budget this season. This season will be a good one financially for them as they certainly got a lot of money for Gerrard and co. Time will also tell what they got for Patterson and how much they cleared from the Europa League run.

 

The point is any club spending beyond its means will pay the price. As they did ten years ago, we did, and even Barcelona now.

 

I’m just disappointed as out of the last three finals we had our strongest team yesterday compared to 2019 and 2020 but were further away from winning than we were in these two games where we competed well (and I know we went to ET yesterday and didn’t in 2019).

 

Back to Sevco their recruitment and outgoings will be crucial this summer. I’m far from convinced they’ve done well in this department recently.

Your point about us having the strongest cup final team in the last three finals would be true if all the players were fully fit. 

It was clear that some were a good bit short of 100%

[AlimOzturk]

The financial disparity in Scottish football between the old firm and the rest has to be the biggest in world football. 
 

I reckon rangers and Celtic could put their reserves out all season and they would still come close to finishing 1st and second. And their reserves will most likely be paid significantly more than anything we can afford. 
 

They are beatable when they have an off day but over the course of a season they have far much resources 

[JennytheJambo]

7 hours ago, briever said:

 

How did they get those players from Aberdeen though?  Wages - that's the major difference now.

I said the same thin, no doubt, the same reason that John Souttar has signed for Rangers, people say he wanted to stay in Scotland if that was the case why not stay at Hearts. 

[gregzy2k7]

7 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

The financial disparity in Scottish football between the old firm and the rest has to be the biggest in world football. 
 

I reckon rangers and Celtic could put their reserves out all season and they would still come close to finishing 1st and second. And their reserves will most likely be paid significantly more than anything we can afford. 
 

They are beatable when they have an off day but over the course of a season they have far much resources 

This is the sad reality for me, alot of their squad players would get into our first team imo.

 

Our only chance to challenge them is building a squad over several seasons of finishing top 3/4 and guaranteeing group stage euro football and the cash injection that comes with that,

We should also be looking to get 10k foh contributors in the next few years which would give us a passive income of around 1.5-2M a year, Also we need to be open to outside investment and investors contributing to the club too, every bit of money into the club helps massively in trying to stop the duoploy,

 

We need to have solid recruitment and need to sign a couple of great players every window for the next two/three years and keep them in our team/squad, whilst improving the quality of the overall squad then we can potentially look to at least close the gap on the OF, however it's difficult to retain the top players though when the players are getting offered 3/4 times the wages they are getting at hearts from bigger clubs.

 

Lastly I feel like we need the other big clubs in Scotland to get stronger as well, We need Hibs, Aberdeen and Dundee utd to take points off the OF and knock them out of cups sometimes, this would make a big difference as well.

[doctor jambo]

Rangers spent £40 million to win that Scottish cup.

ten years ago they bought 17 Scottish cups, 54 league titles and a uefa cup for £6 million

thats Inflation for you 

 

[PortyBeach]

On 23/05/2022 at 00:02, doctor jambo said:

Rangers spent £40 million to win that Scottish cup.

ten years ago they bought 17 Scottish cups, 54 league titles and a uefa cup for £6 million

thats Inflation for you 

 

The Scottish Cup is just a by-product, of course. The main point of the outlay was to deny Celtic’s “Ten”.
It speaks volumes for the mindset of the Ibrox follow-followers that stopping Celtic became such an article of faith and that club directors were prepared to squander their personal fortunes to bankroll players’ wage bills.

It just might come back to haunt them - you can but hope.

Good point about the scandalous decision to confer the honours of the liquidated club on to Charles Green’s creation. Not that Scottish football is corrupt, of course.

Edited May 24, 2022 by PortyBeach

[SomethingAboutObua]

On 22/05/2022 at 15:20, AlimOzturk said:

The financial disparity in Scottish football between the old firm and the rest has to be the biggest in world football. 
 

I reckon rangers and Celtic could put their reserves out all season and they would still come close to finishing 1st and second. And their reserves will most likely be paid significantly more than anything we can afford. 
 

They are beatable when they have an off day but over the course of a season they have far much resources 

Something like when Livingston got promoted the only top flight european league where there were 2 teams had a Higher disparity between them in wages then Livingston and Celtic was PSG and Guingamp in Ligue 1. A team owned by an oil state and a team that's Scottish equivalent would be if we had a Stornoway FC.

 

Old firm fans are clueless to how easy they have it

[jambopilms]

9 minutes ago, SomethingAboutObua said:

Something like when Livingston got promoted the only top flight european league where there were 2 teams had a Higher disparity between them in wages then Livingston and Celtic was PSG and Guingamp in Ligue 1. A team owned by an oil state and a team that's Scottish equivalent would be if we had a Stornoway FC.

 

Old firm fans are clueless to how easy they have it

Yep, unless it's in Europe then that's just unfair to them. It's the only time the media mention it too.

It equally sad when our own fans call us spineless bottle merchants any time we don't beat them.

[SuperstarSteve]

On 22/05/2022 at 12:08, buzzbomb1958 said:

There must be a lot of jiggery pokery going on if that’s true

Were rangers not allowed to play in Europe without the 3 years worth of accounts that was required? Or something along those lines. Can’t mind if SPFL helped them out or UEFA just let them away with it 

[Winstons Da]

Were we comparing budgets when we played Brora Rangers?

 

Or is it selective comparison?

 

Entering extra time against players that should obviously be knackered after Wednesday should have seen us move up a gear and take control. 
 

Instead, the knackered team moved up a gear and blew us away with little effort. 
 

 

[Bazzas right boot]

10 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said:

Were rangers not allowed to play in Europe without the 3 years worth of accounts that was required? Or something along those lines. Can’t mind if SPFL helped them out or UEFA just let them away with it 

 

Taken them longer than that to qualify for Europe after thier rebirth so wasn't an issus I don't think. 

 

Taken them an extra season to get out of the championship. 

😎

[DS98]

7 minutes ago, Winstons Da said:

Were we comparing budgets when we played Brora Rangers?

 

Or is it selective comparison?

 

Entering extra time against players that should obviously be knackered after Wednesday should have seen us move up a gear and take control. 
 

Instead, the knackered team moved up a gear and blew us away with little effort. 
 

 

Or a team full of elite athletes. Some of them played 2 hours of football on the Wednesday. Then had a team of top sport scientists aiding their recovery with nutrition, massage, hydrotherapy etc. 

 

We had 4 starters that were nowhere near fully fit. We had to play them because the alternatives are not up to it.
 

We’re not Rangers, we don’t have 2 or 3 players in each position who are all of similar quality. Arguably Jack, Kamara and Wright are better than who they replaced. That is the difference. 

[soonbe110]

On 22/05/2022 at 07:55, Salad Fingers said:

 

I still can't get my head round 55K for Kamara. 

We missed out on him big time when he was at Dundee.  We had a good look and decided against 

[soonbe110]

On 22/05/2022 at 12:33, doctor jambo said:

What a load of guff.

ok some of them were free or cheap.

The more salient point is - if they are free could hearts have afforded any of them?

the answer of course is no.

Put up a graphic of the hearts team yesterday with their costs and ask if rangers could have afforded any of them and the answer is, of course, yes. All of them, without searching down the sofa.

Its the wages that are important .

Even the free agents in that side are unaffordable.

 

We could have afforded Wright and Kamara for certain. and possibly Jack.   We were also very close to signing McGregor before they gazumped us. 

[Winstons Da]

1 minute ago, DS98 said:

Or a team full of elite athletes. Some of them played 2 hours of football on the Wednesday. Then had a team of top sport scientists aiding their recovery with nutrition, massage, hydrotherapy etc. 

 

We had 4 starters that were nowhere near fully fit. We had to play them because the alternatives are not up to it.
 

We’re not Rangers, we don’t have 2 or 3 players in each position who are all of similar quality. Arguably Jack, Kamara and Wright are better than who they replaced. That is the difference. 

Is that more selective comparison?

 

For the massive quality squad that they’re supposed to have, they played 120 minutes on Saturday WITHOUT a recognised striker/forward. 
 

Their subs were only better than who they replaced because they started off with a weakened team. 
 

When you can’t hit a shot on target in 120 minutes then you’re not going to win a knock out tie. 
 

[Bazzas right boot]

6 minutes ago, Winstons Da said:

Is that more selective comparison?

 

For the massive quality squad that they’re supposed to have, they played 120 minutes on Saturday WITHOUT a recognised striker/forward. 
 

Their subs were only better than who they replaced because they started off with a weakened team. 
 

When you can’t hit a shot on target in 120 minutes then you’re not going to win a knock out tie. 
 

 

Cool story. 

[jambopilms]

27 minutes ago, Winstons Da said:

Were we comparing budgets when we played Brora Rangers?

 

Or is it selective comparison?

 

Entering extra time against players that should obviously be knackered after Wednesday should have seen us move up a gear and take control. 
 

Instead, the knackered team moved up a gear and blew us away with little effort. 
 

 

If we played Brora 100 times they would probably win about 5 games. They caught us at a low point.

Strangely enough it the only time we beat Celtic or Rangers. If they play well they win, no matter the fitness, skill, formation or attitude we show.

[buzzbomb1958]

2 hours ago, SuperstarSteve said:

Were rangers not allowed to play in Europe without the 3 years worth of accounts that was required? Or something along those lines. Can’t mind if SPFL helped them out or UEFA just let them away with it 

Think the SFA went sort of guarantor for them in some way , whole Scottish system is corrupt 

[Morgan]

3 hours ago, Winstons Da said:

Is that more selective comparison?

 

For the massive quality squad that they’re supposed to have, they played 120 minutes on Saturday WITHOUT a recognised striker/forward. 
 

Their subs were only better than who they replaced because they started off with a weakened team. 
 

When you can’t hit a shot on target in 120 minutes then you’re not going to win a knock out tie. 
 

Great stuff.

 

You should be a Jambo.  👍

[DS98]

3 hours ago, Winstons Da said:

Is that more selective comparison?

 

For the massive quality squad that they’re supposed to have, they played 120 minutes on Saturday WITHOUT a recognised striker/forward. 
 

Their subs were only better than who they replaced because they started off with a weakened team. 
 

When you can’t hit a shot on target in 120 minutes then you’re not going to win a knock out tie. 
 

And these players who started in a ‘weakened’ team are still a higher level than our best.

 

Your last bit also isn’t true. They failed to really cut us open in over 90 mins. Ryan Jacks goal is a great strike but 9 times out of 10 that hits row Z. If that doesn’t go in I think it goes to pens. It didn’t. We fell short. 

[Winstons Da]

8 hours ago, DS98 said:

And these players who started in a ‘weakened’ team are still a higher level than our best.

 

Your last bit also isn’t true. They failed to really cut us open in over 90 mins. Ryan Jacks goal is a great strike but 9 times out of 10 that hits row Z. If that doesn’t go in I think it goes to pens. It didn’t. We fell short. 

Were you watching a different game?

[The Treasurer]

13 hours ago, Winstons Da said:

Were we comparing budgets when we played Brora Rangers?

 

Or is it selective comparison?

 

Entering extra time against players that should obviously be knackered after Wednesday should have seen us move up a gear and take control. 
 

Instead, the knackered team moved up a gear and blew us away with little effort. 
 

 

Results like Brora will always happen in football from time to time, nothing to do with budgets.(think Newcastle v Cambridge this season)

Yes sevco players should have been tired after Wednesday but you are being "selective" about fitness if you ignore the obvious fact that we had several players well short of full fitness and match fitness.

The fact is they were able to freshen up their team with quality from the bench, we don't have the same strength in depth their resources allow for

[Nookie Bear]

On 22/05/2022 at 12:33, doctor jambo said:

What a load of guff.

ok some of them were free or cheap.

The more salient point is - if they are free could hearts have afforded any of them?

the answer of course is no.

Put up a graphic of the hearts team yesterday with their costs and ask if rangers could have afforded any of them and the answer is, of course, yes. All of them, without searching down the sofa.

Its the wages that are important .

Even the free agents in that side are unaffordable.

 

John Souttar being a case in point. 
 

Our best player, certainly our biggest asset, but the moment rangers registered an interest in him the game was up. 
 

Makes them stronger and us weaker and the cycle of frustration carries on for another year. 

[Nookie Bear]

17 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

Results like Brora will always happen in football from time to time, nothing to do with budgets.(think Newcastle v Cambridge this season)

Yes sevco players should have been tired after Wednesday but you are being "selective" about fitness if you ignore the obvious fact that we had several players well short of full fitness and match fitness.

The fact is they were able to freshen up their team with quality from the bench, we don't have the same strength in depth their resources allow for

I may be wrong but it’s a feature of us in recent years that we tail off at the end of the season, usually because we have little to play for, and I think that shows when we have to get back up for a cup final. 
 

As tired as rangers were they were still very much in the competitive zone, knowing they just needed one last push before they could enjoy their break (and probably a decent cup winning bonus as well). 

[Bazzas right boot]

4 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

I may be wrong but it’s a feature of us in recent years that we tail off at the end of the season, usually because we have little to play for, and I think that shows when we have to get back up for a cup final. 
 

As tired as rangers were they were still very much in the competitive zone, knowing they just needed one last push before they could enjoy their break (and probably a decent cup winning bonus as well). 

 

 

Maybe, or we just got beat by a better team. 

 

In all honesty, a far better one. 

 

[Nookie Bear]

59 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

 

Maybe, or we just got beat by a better team. 

 

In all honesty, a far better one. 

 

 

Well, there is that 🤷‍♂️

[Winstons Da]

1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said:

I may be wrong but it’s a feature of us in recent years that we tail off at the end of the season, usually because we have little to play for, and I think that shows when we have to get back up for a cup final. 
 

As tired as rangers were they were still very much in the competitive zone, knowing they just needed one last push before they could enjoy their break (and probably a decent cup winning bonus as well). 

Very unprofessional by the players if true. 
 

Do they have no pride that they stop making an effort from the split, if not before?

 

If players can’t be motivated for a cup final then they are cheating the fans. 

 

 

[briever]

1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said:

I may be wrong but it’s a feature of us in recent years that we tail off at the end of the season, usually because we have little to play for, and I think that shows when we have to get back up for a cup final. 
 

As tired as rangers were they were still very much in the competitive zone, knowing they just needed one last push before they could enjoy their break (and probably a decent cup winning bonus as well). 

 

Much as I despise the bigot brothers I admire their refusal to accept defeat - not something you could accuse us of post split.

[Nookie Bear]

27 minutes ago, Winstons Da said:

Very unprofessional by the players if true. 
 

Do they have no pride that they stop making an effort from the split, if not before?

 

If players can’t be motivated for a cup final then they are cheating the fans. 

 

 

 

Not questioning their professionalism but i think it's natural to take your foot off the gas when there is little to play for.

 

It's difficult to bring yourself back up when that happens.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Nookie Bear

[Bazzas right boot]

24 minutes ago, briever said:

 

Much as I despise the bigot brothers I admire their refusal to accept defeat - not something you could accuse us of post split.

 

 

Celtic get beat of better teams all the time, look at Europe this season, humped out 3 times. 

 

Rangers also got beat of celtic and lost the league, humped out the ucl qualifiers as well by Malmo. 

 

Nothing to do with accepting or refusing, it's because they have better, faster, stronger and fitter players across their squad than other Scottish teams. 

 

[Winstons Da]

15 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Not questioning their professionalism but i think it's natural to take your foot off the gas when there is little to play for.

 

It's difficult to bring yourself back up when that happens.

There was a cup final to play for!

 

What was the point of turning up if the players were in holiday mode before the split. 
 

 

[avhudtheteeshirt]

Rangers and Celtic will always be able to plunder Scottish football for the best players.

But players from England come at a premium.

Yes they will get players to come to Scotland when they are out of favour on down in the pecking order.

Just look at the reported spend for Spurs this window, £150 million, this means any player playing for both the Old Firm that is wanted would be easy pickings.

Its all down to scale, and I'm afraid, as far as I can see, catching the Old Firm is a dream or a lottery dream come true!!!

[The Treasurer]

4 hours ago, Nookie Bear said:

I may be wrong but it’s a feature of us in recent years that we tail off at the end of the season, usually because we have little to play for, and I think that shows when we have to get back up for a cup final. 
 

As tired as rangers were they were still very much in the competitive zone, knowing they just needed one last push before they could enjoy their break (and probably a decent cup winning bonus as well). 

Maybe sounds daft but wrapping up third place so early maybe worked against us.

Not saying for a minute that the players downed tools (far from it) but maybe there wasn't that competitive edge to us for a few games.

[Hearts1975]

Some absolutely mental comments being made 

Beaten by the Europa League finalists. Whether you like it or not no team can get to the Europa League final and be bog standard average 

That was a bloody good side we played with 3 or 4 match winners in their side 

 

We, on the other hand, turn up on the day fielding half a side that shouldn't have even be playing in the first place due to fitness concerns. We do not have a big squad and didn't have the quality, nor the options, from the bench to change things 

 

The one thing we really needed was someone to take the ball in midfield and recycle the possession. Someone like Beni would have been perfect but we couldn't even play him 

 

If we had came out the other day and pressed and then went at them gung ho we would have lost that game heavily because they had too many players with the pace on the flanks that would have exploited the space in behind.

 

We couldn't even replace Boyce, who was pivotal to the tactic we deployed, with another striker when he came off. 

 

We need to improve the squad depth for next season. We don't need to get a new manager in place. We just need to keep improving and building it up gradually and investing wisely in the squad YoY 

 

 

 

[i wish jj was my dad]

8 hours ago, Winstons Da said:

There was a cup final to play for!

 

What was the point of turning up if the players were in holiday mode before the split. 
 

 

What was the point in the shite turning up in 2012? They weren't in holiday mode but they got humped by a better quality team with a similar budget. And as you very well know if we hadn,t taken our foot off their throat it would have been 10. 

Post split we had to to nurse 4/5 players back to some kind of fitness to give us a chance against a much better side. And we put a damn better show on than sister lovers did against us. 

We lost against a better side over 120 minutes. That's it. 

[Punks No Deid]

1 hour ago, i wish jj was my dad said:

What was the point in the shite turning up in 2012? They weren't in holiday mode but they got humped by a better quality team with a similar budget. And as you very well know if we hadn,t taken our foot off their throat it would have been 10. 

Post split we had to to nurse 4/5 players back to some kind of fitness to give us a chance against a much better side. And we put a damn better show on than sister lovers did against us. 

We lost against a better side over 120 minutes. That's it. 

Can’t disagree with this 

[Winstons Da]

2 hours ago, i wish jj was my dad said:

What was the point in the shite turning up in 2012? They weren't in holiday mode but they got humped by a better quality team with a similar budget. And as you very well know if we hadn,t taken our foot off their throat it would have been 10. 

Post split we had to to nurse 4/5 players back to some kind of fitness to give us a chance against a much better side. And we put a damn better show on than sister lovers did against us. 

We lost against a better side over 120 minutes. That's it. 

It wasn’t asking for much for someone to at least have ONE shot on goal in TWO hours was it?

 

How hard can it be FFS. 

 

Forget about Rangers playing no recognised striker due to injury, they were  even playing their reserve goalkeeper. 
 

I never saw Rangers complaining about injuries. Not even after losing a Europa League Final partly due to no striker. 
 

[Mr Elwood P]

19 minutes ago, Winstons Da said:

It wasn’t asking for much for someone to at least have ONE shot on goal in TWO hours was it?

 

How hard can it be FFS. 

 

Forget about Rangers playing no recognised striker due to injury, they were  even playing their reserve goalkeeper. 
 

I never saw Rangers complaining about injuries. Not even after losing a Europa League Final partly due to no striker. 
 

You need the ball to have a shot on target. We couldn't get a touch for big chunks of the final.

[i wish jj was my dad]

23 minutes ago, Winstons Da said:

It wasn’t asking for much for someone to at least have ONE shot on goal in TWO hours was it?

 

How hard can it be FFS. 

 

Forget about Rangers playing no recognised striker due to injury, they were  even playing their reserve goalkeeper. 
 

I never saw Rangers complaining about injuries. Not even after losing a Europa League Final partly due to no striker. 
 

We did hit the post but weren't good enough. Nothing to do with effort or ambition. They were just better.  They had xi quality players on the park for 120 minutes, including their two international keepers. We didn't. We had a whole spine of the team well short of 100% fit and 3 subs who are nowhere near the quality of Rangers players. That's why the game panned out the way it did. 

Could have been worse though we weren't bent over in and humiliated like the shite. 

Edited May 25, 2022 by i wish jj was my dad

[Winstons Da]

2 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said:

You need the ball to have a shot on target. We couldn't get a touch for big chunks of the final.

Stop digging please. 

[Mr Elwood P]

50 minutes ago, Winstons Da said:

Stop digging please. 

That statement doesn't even make sense in this context.