SACKED IN THE MORNING

[Tom Hardy’s Dug]

12 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

The 50th cap issue was  100%Kenny Miller. It was pretty widely talked about amongst Scotland fans at the time. 

Whatever you thought of Levein, whatever you thought of “the system” to be played that’s true ****ing traitor trash that sort of move.

[Uncle Buck]

1 hour ago, Stu_HMFC said:

Maybe Danny Swanson ? always trouble and bother when he’s around outside a pub .

I had Goodwillie in my head when he was telling the cupboard story. Cathro must have been the one not willing to do any of the dirty work.

 

And Kenny Miller was 100% the one who was about to make his 50th cap at the Czech game. Sure he went running to the papers at the time.

[Restonbabe]

On 14/10/2021 at 22:41, 1971fozzy said:

Superb. Loved it. Obviously Cathro he was on about which was no surprise.

Levein is fantastic as a pundit tbf

Is it only 5 minutes long?? 

[McGlynn The Money]

On 14/10/2021 at 23:26, ToqueJambo said:

 

Some of the best players and managers are. Poor Craig. Must hurt seeing your entire career boiled down to (in the minds of some at least) first one bad Scotland result (actually nowhere near the worst we've had) and then one a bad season and a half. Not to mention having no marks like Michael Stewart slag you off for not having any medals. He'll live though - skin like a rhino. Obviously lost his managerial mojo but a great pundit - says what he thinks even if he goes a bit easy on his fellow managers as they all tend to do.

 

One bad season and a half? If only that were true.

[1971fozzy]

7 hours ago, Restonbabe said:

Is it only 5 minutes long?? 

no that was only a small episode. Almost like a taster. They are longer -about 45 minutes

Edited October 29, 2021 by 1971fozzy

[RobNox]

Dick Campbell on the latest show, another great character.  Amy Irons mentioned that he'd won an incredible 36 manager of the month awards in his career.

 

Dick admits it sounds impressive, but that his wife reminds him that he's been managing so long that it only works out at around 1 award per season.

[Rudy T]

7 hours ago, RobNox said:

Dick Campbell on the latest show, another great character.  Amy Irons mentioned that he'd won an incredible 36 manager of the month awards in his career.

 

Dick admits it sounds impressive, but that his wife reminds him that he's been managing so long that it only works out at around 1 award per season.

Best one yet proper old school.

[sassenach]

8 hours ago, RobNox said:

Dick Campbell on the latest show, another great character.  Amy Irons mentioned that he'd won an incredible 36 manager of the month awards in his career.

 

Dick admits it sounds impressive, but that his wife reminds him that he's been managing so long that it only works out at around 1 award per season.

 

I struggled to understand Dick Campbell for much of the podcast.  I'm usually OK with a Scottish accent, but his was just too broad and too fast for me.

[john thomas]

14 minutes ago, sassenach said:

 

I struggled to understand Dick Campbell for much of the podcast.  I'm usually OK with a Scottish accent, but his was just too broad and too fast for me.

Sound was terrible . Dick was over modulating

[Thaw]

Listened to all four episodes so far the same day. Not impressed overall. Why do so many involved in football think it's a bad thing that "these days" managers have to treat players like human beings? Why do so many fans - the majority of whom I'd assume are pro-trade union, some very staunch - agree with them?

 

Pulis in particular went down in my estimation. Imagine being so threatened by a player wearing red boots that you'd cut off your nose to spite your face by dropping him? Then having talked about setting his stall out as a disciplinarian, he does the opposite by letting Fuller go away for a non-existent international. Couldn't he have contacted the Jamaican FA or looked at their website to check? Does he think they don't have the internet in Jamaica? 

 

Then Campbell, who apparently owns a recruitment company, saying he would once have physically fought players who dared to disagree with him.

 

By the way, the player who threatened to score an own goal if he wasn't sold is Slaven Bilic. Redknapp talks about him trying to force a move in one of his books, although he doesn't mention that particular detail.

[TypoonJambo]

2 minutes ago, Thaw said:

Listened to all four episodes so far the same day. Not impressed overall. Why do so many involved in football think it's a bad thing that "these days" managers have to treat players like human beings? Why do so many fans - the majority of whom I'd assume are pro-trade union, some very staunch - agree with them?

 

Pulis in particular went down in my estimation. Imagine being so threatened by a player wearing red boots that you'd cut off your nose to spite your face by dropping him? Then having talked about setting his stall out as a disciplinarian, he does the opposite by letting Fuller go away for a non-existent international. Couldn't he have contacted the Jamaican FA or looked at their website to check? Does he think they don't have the internet in Jamaica? 

 

Then Campbell, who apparently owns a recruitment company, saying he would once have physically fought players who dared to disagree with him.

 

By the way, the player who threatened to score an own goal if he wasn't sold is Slaven Bilic. Redknapp talks about him trying to force a move in one of his books, although he doesn't mention that particular detail.

It's all about opinions I guess. I've enjoyed them all.

[boag1874]

Getting caught up on this, enjoying it so far! Whatever you think of CL he’s not afraid to have a laugh at his own expense. Pishing myself at the story of Robbo & the Aerotone machine

[Robbies Tackle]

It’s surprisingly really good.

[Restonbabe]

Been brilliant. Dick Campbell wanting to have a square go with sir Alex. 

Then scrapping with his brother during a team talk 

[Rogue Daddy]

Really enjoying this podcast - I'm about half way through this weeks episode (about referees)... and already CL has told a story about when he was at Hearts - and what he was told by a referee, during a game. The ball had gone out of play, clearly touched by a Motherwell player, and the throw-in was given to Well. CL contested and was told he "...would get **** all today!" He goes on to say that referees are human, so corruption and bias definitely exists in the game... but we all knew this.

Well worth a listen, although he doesn't name the ref.

[jonesy]

On 06/11/2021 at 13:57, Thaw said:

Listened to all four episodes so far the same day. Not impressed overall. Why do so many involved in football think it's a bad thing that "these days" managers have to treat players like human beings? Why do so many fans - the majority of whom I'd assume are pro-trade union, some very staunch - agree with them?

 

Pulis in particular went down in my estimation. Imagine being so threatened by a player wearing red boots that you'd cut off your nose to spite your face by dropping him? Then having talked about setting his stall out as a disciplinarian, he does the opposite by letting Fuller go away for a non-existent international. Couldn't he have contacted the Jamaican FA or looked at their website to check? Does he think they don't have the internet in Jamaica? 

 

Then Campbell, who apparently owns a recruitment company, saying he would once have physically fought players who dared to disagree with him.

 

By the way, the player who threatened to score an own goal if he wasn't sold is Slaven Bilic. Redknapp talks about him trying to force a move in one of his books, although he doesn't mention that particular detail.

Got to disagree, bud. Are you not impressed with the stories they're sharing or the idea of the podcast itself? If anything, hearing about this kind of stuff simply confirms what most folk already knew or had their suspicions of. It seems like you are happy that we live in a different age now - perhaps it's useful for folk to hear that this kind of stuff went on to be able to laugh at the 'dinosaur' antics of the previous generation and move on.

 

This is real people sharing real stories from the world of football - an emotional, highly charged 'industry' in which people's reputations and livelihoods are on the line. There's no manual, and there were very few expectations re behaviour when these guys were younger - you listened to the 'gaffer' and anyone who didn't got dealt with... unless their contribution was going to be so good then they'd get cut a little slack, a but like indulging a wayward kid, I guess. It's a reflection on the society they are/were operating in. 

 

Levein is coming across well in this because he's not trying to prove he's infallible. Instead, they're simply having a laugh about some of the dafter moments they've had in their careers, sharing some of the behind the scenes stuff for us fans to enjoy/discuss. 

 

Not a fan of Pulis, but he came across very well in the podcast, as does Levein.

[Serge]

I like the series. Plenty other content out there for those who don't.

[The Old Tolbooth]

I think it's superb, very entertaining! 

[Baldwigforjack]

Enjoying this, currently listening to the Ian Holloway episode.

[Thaw]

8 hours ago, jonesy said:

Got to disagree, bud. Are you not impressed with the stories they're sharing or the idea of the podcast itself?

 

...

 

 

Not a fan of Pulis, but he came across very well in the podcast, as does Levein.

 

The concept definitely has potential. There have been some parts I enjoyed, although I forget which... Levein does come across well at times, but I couldn't get over how pathetic I found Pulis telling Bailey he was somehow failing to put the team first by wearing red boots.

 

9 hours ago, jonesy said:

 It seems like you are happy that we live in a different age now - perhaps it's useful for folk to hear that this kind of stuff went on to be able to laugh at the 'dinosaur' antics of the previous generation and move on.

 

 

 

The depressing thing is how many people, maybe a majority around my age (39) and older are sad that times have changed in this respect. I think it's mad for it even to be a debate. On one side you have people who think everyone should be able to go to work and not be assaulted or bullied by colleagues; on the other, people who think the same about other industries, but make an exception for football.

[jonesy]

26 minutes ago, Thaw said:

 

The concept definitely has potential. There have been some parts I enjoyed, although I forget which... Levein does come across well at times, but I couldn't get over how pathetic I found Pulis telling Bailey he was somehow failing to put the team first by wearing red boots.

 

 

The depressing thing is how many people, maybe a majority around my age (39) and older are sad that times have changed in this respect. I think it's mad for it even to be a debate. On one side you have people who think everyone should be able to go to work and not be assaulted or bullied by colleagues; on the other, people who think the same about other industries, but make an exception for football.

We're the same age, Thaw. Think I must be a bit of a dinosaur compared to you, though  I mean, there are a few colleagues at my work I would love to be able to lock in a cupboard

 

I thought part of the reason for having these guys on, like Pulis, is to show that times have changed. I'd wager that every generation for centuries, and perhaps accelerated by the advent of the technological revolutions, has had its fair share of 'haven't we made great progress' and 'in my day, thing were better...' type folk.

 

 

[Thomaso]

On 14/10/2021 at 22:43, indianajones said:

He's an arrogant arsehole tbh. 

This!

[Martin_T]

Reckon the player that Harry Redknapp mentions, now a top manager, who threatened to kick the ball into his own goal, is almost certainly Slaven Billic.

[hmfc_liam06]

On 06/11/2021 at 13:57, Thaw said:

Listened to all four episodes so far the same day. Not impressed overall. Why do so many involved in football think it's a bad thing that "these days" managers have to treat players like human beings? Why do so many fans - the majority of whom I'd assume are pro-trade union, some very staunch - agree with them?

 

Pulis in particular went down in my estimation. Imagine being so threatened by a player wearing red boots that you'd cut off your nose to spite your face by dropping him? Then having talked about setting his stall out as a disciplinarian, he does the opposite by letting Fuller go away for a non-existent international. Couldn't he have contacted the Jamaican FA or looked at their website to check? Does he think they don't have the internet in Jamaica? 

 

Then Campbell, who apparently owns a recruitment company, saying he would once have physically fought players who dared to disagree with him.

 

By the way, the player who threatened to score an own goal if he wasn't sold is Slaven Bilic. Redknapp talks about him trying to force a move in one of his books, although he doesn't mention that particular detail.

 

He also acknowledges how he's changed to modern times. Bit of a harsh assessment that, when back in the day most managers had that attitude.

 

Fergie, the greatest of all time (in my opinion) has come to blows with many a player...

[King prawn]

I think Lambert has been the worst guest so far - more just stories about him and his teams than referees but in general I’m enjoying it 

[1971fozzy]

6 hours ago, King prawn said:

I think Lambert has been the worst guest so far - more just stories about him and his teams than referees but in general I’m enjoying it 

yeah I agree, but good of him to go on. Personality of cardboard

[Thaw]

7 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

He also acknowledges how he's changed to modern times. Bit of a harsh assessment that, when back in the day most managers had that attitude.

 

Fergie, the greatest of all time (in my opinion) has come to blows with many a player...

 

I'm not suggesting that Campbell was unique in doing that, of course, but he was the most explicit about it on the podcast. And yes, that's one reason I have mixed feelings about Ferguson, despite his incredible achievements. I don't know if most managers would have got away with the Beckham/boot incident at the time it happened...

[Pilmuir]

On 10/11/2021 at 09:11, Rogue Daddy said:

Really enjoying this podcast - I'm about half way through this weeks episode (about referees)... and already CL has told a story about when he was at Hearts - and what he was told by a referee, during a game. The ball had gone out of play, clearly touched by a Motherwell player, and the throw-in was given to Well. CL contested and was told he "...would get **** all today!" He goes on to say that referees are human, so corruption and bias definitely exists in the game... but we all knew this.

Well worth a listen, although he doesn't name the ref.

Don’t think he was making it up. All to do with him having an issue with Dougie McDonald.

 

Tells us how corrupt Scottish football was/is.

[Samuel Camazzola]

On 08/11/2021 at 08:28, boag1874 said:

Getting caught up on this, enjoying it so far! Whatever you think of CL he’s not afraid to have a laugh at his own expense. Pishing myself at the story of Robbo & the Aerotone machine

Robbo's version of events on a recent Off The Ball episode was equally as good. 😄

[Maroon Sailor]

 

[jonesy]

10 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Now there's a celebrity boxing match that would fill Tynie.

[Maroon Sailor]

5 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Now there's a celebrity boxing match that would fill Tynie.

 

Would last about 5 seconds !

[frankblack]

1 minute ago, jonesy said:

Now there's a celebrity boxing match that would fill Tynie.

 

I wouldn't fancy Stewart in that one.

 

[jonesy]

5 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Would last about 5 seconds !

 

5 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

I wouldn't fancy Stewart in that one.

 

MS' ring walk would have to be carefully staged in order to avoid a pre-fight KO.

 

 

[frankblack]

15 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 

MS' ring walk would have to be carefully staged in order to avoid a pre-fight KO.

 

 

 

Quality

Edited November 14, 2021 by frankblack

[SUTOL]

On 10/11/2021 at 18:37, Thaw said:

 

The depressing thing is how many people, maybe a majority around my age (39) and older are sad that times have changed in this respect. I think it's mad for it even to be a debate. On one side you have people who think everyone should be able to go to work and not be assaulted or bullied by colleagues; on the other, people who think the same about other industries, but make an exception for football.

 

I wonder if it was accepted in football due to the original nature of the development of the game. Originating in groups of mates, or work colleagues etc starting teams. 

Even nowadays, it would be more acceptable to get a bollocking etc from a 'mate' than a stranger. 

[niblick1874]

Dick Campbell's story about his wife had me falling of my chair. I hope they do more. For me it's the best out there of it's kind. 
 

Here is the last one with the wife story and a lot more. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0bcc2y5

[Newton51]

32 minutes ago, niblick1874 said:

Dick Campbell's story about his wife had me falling of my chair. I hope they do more. For me it's the best out there of it's kind. 
 

Here is the last one with the wife story and a lot more. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0bcc2y5

Listened to this earlier. That story was class. Dick Campbell is a legend. Proper old school manager

[TypoonJambo]

A very enjoyable podcast,all the guests were good but Dick Campbell,hilarious. 

[Kiwidoug]

I'd love to see Dick Cambell have a shot at the Premier league with Arbroath.

[niblick1874]

40 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

Listened to this earlier. That story was class. Dick Campbell is a legend. Proper old school manager

 

Ok. Eventually I'll get to her, I can see she's not happy.  

 

At that point in the story I'm thinking I know what is coming, and in a way, I was right, however,  😆

[jamboinglasgow]

That Craig Levein story about Barbados 😂

[Newton51]

2 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

That Craig Levein story about Barbados 😂

Do you think that was when he was a player? And not in the literal sense

[niblick1874]

10 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

Do you think that was when he was a player? And not in the literal sense

 

I think he was playing. He had to spit it out.

Eggshells and treading on come to mind. 😏

Edited January 6 by niblick1874

[boag1874]

Dick Campbell getting an angry phone call from his Mum for getting picked up swearing on the tele brilliant!

[Rogue Daddy]

12 hours ago, niblick1874 said:

 

I think he was playing. He had to spit it out.

Eggshells and treading on come to mind. 😏

...and the rest of the team had to watch 😳🤣🤣🤣

[section s heart]

Thought the series was really entertaining, most of the guests were funny, and CL was decent. AI liked a wee interrupt though.

 

Some of the "old school" stuff will be gone from dressing rooms, but the further down the leagues you go, it's probably not much different from how it used to be. Bunch of mates/ lads banter/ win bonuses/ jobs on the line, so potentially noisy dressing room. 

[TurboT]

Have to say, I really enjoyed the series, something different to listen too when I'm out walking the dog.  Thought CL came across well and was happy to poke fun at himself and the guests were decent also.

[Boyces beard]

Hope they do another series, best Scottish football podcast out there by a long way with some cracking stories and guests.

[Bazzas right boot]

How do you listen to these, can never find them.