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3 hours ago, sadj said:

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She's tongue in cheek. 

 

She takes the piss out of hibs a lot and posts stuff lije  that for bites. 

 

When I was on fb she was the admin for that site. 

She was quite funny at times Tbh. 

Doesn't take herself seriously. 

 

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2 hours ago, Deid Heid said:

Agree with you 100% Would have to insist on the caveat that each stage of this is extremely painful and protracted and just prior to them going round the u-bend that Fish, The Amazing Specky Dw*** Sh******, The Stott boys and Dougry Scott make a hopeless last minute attempt to haul them out of the abyss.

 

Imagine the dilemma, smack or h1b5  - there'll be only one winner.

Happy days!

 

Aye, DH.

 

Long, drawn out, with maximum angst, tears and turmoil first, then deid. 

 

A bit like 1990 but with a different ending.

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58 minutes ago, martoon said:

 

Aye, DH.

 

Long, drawn out, with maximum angst, tears and turmoil first, then deid. 

 

A bit like 1990 but with a different ending.

Oh yes, who doesn't love a Happy Ending!

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I wish there was some sort of snippet you could hover over that tells you why a thread is bumped because curiosity will make you take a peek. Then you find out there is nothing of interest.

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So just to summarise:

 

Dempster left

 

Mathie got the boot but they didn't really say why then they appoint someone with no experience but on the grounds of he's the chairman's son

 

They rejected bids of approx. 3.5m for Doig, 2m for Nisbet and 1m for Porteous but nobody actually bid for them

 

At the start of the pandemic they laughed in our face to only mothball the academy, sack staff and cut wages when the going gets tough but then spent money on players.

 

But it doesn't seem to be picked up by the media? Oh and they've got nice big screens 

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, TheBigO said:

have the conveyor belt or are amazing recruiters.  Not sure Hibs are either of those!!!


Especially not now that they've binned their academy

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13 hours ago, John Findlay said:

That will not happen, and it shouldn't either. 

I don't want Hibs dead. I'm from a mixed family. My late mum and my three sisters and half brother are all Hibs supporters, my late dad and me the Hearts supporters. 

I don't want any onfield success for them, I don't want them dead.

For me personally after being there 01/01/73 ages 9yrs and 8 months, seeing their pain time after time is far more satisfying to me than death. Death is permanent. There is no continuation of pain in death.

It certainly bloody should!

 

Many hibs fans wanted Hearts to die and some of them actively tried to make it happen. FoH should offer absolutely no help, advice or encouragement to any hibs fans in setting up and running any sort of similar endeavour. If approached, FoH should simply respond that they're fully focused on ensuring the continuing success of FoH and that any problems Hibs and their fans have are entirely their own problems to deal with. 

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3 hours ago, jambo19 said:

So just to summarise:

 

Dempster left

 

Mathie got the boot but they didn't really say why then they appoint someone with no experience but on the grounds of he's the chairman's son

 

They rejected bids of approx. 3.5m for Doig, 2m for Nisbet and 1m for Porteous but nobody actually bid for them

 

At the start of the pandemic they laughed in our face to only mothball the academy, sack staff and cut wages when the going gets tough but then spent money on players.

 

But it doesn't seem to be picked up by the media? Oh and they've got nice big screens 

 

 

 

 

Gordon is like Vlad without the high class signings, splitting the OF and winning trophies (and in the interest of balance, administration - yet):

 

 Unclear motives for buying the club

  Believes "speculate to accumulate" is a viable strategy 

  "Link up" with a far inferior team (Charleston Battery) where a number of random players turn up to training at Hibs (what happened to that much trumpeted partnership when two random players arrived in Edinburgh and none going the other way it seems? That was his son's doing as well)

  Currying favour with the fans with shiny things (big screens and improved social media/comms, although the latter is debatable). In our case it was a model of a stand and some fireworks

  Neglecting the youth academy (actually has gone further than Vlad in that respect already)

  Key staff leaving for unclear reasons

  Bringing in his "own people" including relatives - wonder if Chick Young will call them "henchmen" as he did with Vlad

  Wanting full control and limited fan input

  Believes Scottish football can change (Gordon will find out soon enough who really runs Scottish football)

  Believes he can split the OF (we actually did it)

  Players dropped mysteriously during transfer speculation

 

When he finally cottons on to how the OF run the game here and how speculate to accumulate won't work, that's when he'll no doubt lose interest. The main difference with Vlad is while Vlad was on his own ranting about the state of Scottish football, Gordon is at least working with other clubs (mostly his American cronies) but the result will be the same. The D Utd guy has been open about wanting to make money from his involvement with D Utd. The other Americans will be the same - they're brought up that way. When Gordon and the others realise they won't....

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5 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said:

It certainly bloody should!

 

Many hibs fans wanted Hearts to die and some of them actively tried to make it happen. FoH should offer absolutely no help, advice or encouragement to any hibs fans in setting up and running any sort of similar endeavour. If approached, FoH should simply respond that they're fully focused on ensuring the continuing success of FoH and that any problems Hibs and their fans have are entirely their own problems to deal with. 

 

I would absolutely help Hibs survive. We literally have the best rivals in football. That's something to be treasured.

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3 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I would absolutely help Hibs survive. We literally have the best rivals in football. That's something to be treasured.

INCOMING!!!🧨

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5 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I would absolutely help Hibs survive. We literally have the best rivals in football. That's something to be treasured.

Bwaaaaaa hahahahahahaha.

 

 

 

 

 

Hahahahahahahaha

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Gordon is like Vlad without the high class signings, splitting the OF and winning trophies (and in the interest of balance, administration - yet):

 

 Unclear motives for buying the club

  Believes "speculate to accumulate" is a viable strategy 

  "Link up" with a far inferior team (Charleston Battery) where a number of random players turn up to training at Hibs (what happened to that much trumpeted partnership when two random players arrived in Edinburgh and none going the other way it seems? That was his son's doing as well)

  Currying favour with the fans with shiny things (big screens and improved social media/comms, although the latter is debatable). In our case it was a model of a stand and some fireworks

  Neglecting the youth academy (actually has gone further than Vlad in that respect already)

  Key staff leaving for unclear reasons

  Bringing in his "own people" including relatives - wonder if Chick Young will call them "henchmen" as he did with Vlad

  Wanting full control and limited fan input

  Believes Scottish football can change (Gordon will find out soon enough who really runs Scottish football)

  Believes he can split the OF (we actually did it)

  Players dropped mysteriously during transfer speculation

 

When he finally cottons on to how the OF run the game here and how speculate to accumulate won't work, that's when he'll no doubt lose interest. The main difference with Vlad is while Vlad was on his own ranting about the state of Scottish football, Gordon is at least working with other clubs (mostly his American cronies) but the result will be the same. The D Utd guy has been open about wanting to make money from his involvement with D Utd. The other Americans will be the same - they're brought up that way. When Gordon and the others realise they won't....

Now, this is a good post 👍

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Leveins Battalion
11 hours ago, 1971fozzy said:


who owns the real estate there ? Genuine question 

 

 

Bydand Sports Ltd own both Easter Road and East Mains (Not only East Mains but land around it)

 

They both have Standard Charges applied to both assets.,neither belong to Hibernian Football Club.

 

 

Bydand Sports are a company set up by Ron and Ian Gordon.........:greggy:

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Smith's right boot

Hibs are doing well atm. 

 

However they are a player sale or two from becoming bang average and flirting with the bottom 6. 

Boyle is massive for them. 

 

More concerning for them is, the they have a owner who owns the land, employs family members and wants to make money from them. 

 

It could bubble along nicely for a year or two, he makes a few million then hands over to the fans or another owner. Either that or hibs could hit a bad turn, Ross gets sacked, the fans get unhappy and he just drops them, cuts his losses and ****s off. 

 

A few years away from either scenario tho. 

 

Hopefully we continue to get better and it won't really matter what they do. 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I would absolutely help Hibs survive. We literally have the best rivals in football. That's something to be treasured.

 

 

Nah **** that. 

They can help themselves if that happened. 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, 1971fozzy said:


who owns the real estate there ? Genuine question 

 

Last registered owners of fester road stadium is Hibernian Football Club Ltd (Company No SC005323)

 

It may be that it has been sold on without the deeds being registered but that is risky and is open to fraud.....

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12 hours ago, jambo19 said:

So just to summarise:

 

Dempster left

 

Mathie got the boot but they didn't really say why then they appoint someone with no experience but on the grounds of he's the chairman's son

 

They rejected bids of approx. 3.5m for Doig, 2m for Nisbet and 1m for Porteous but nobody actually bid for them

 

At the start of the pandemic they laughed in our face to only mothball the academy, sack staff and cut wages when the going gets tough but then spent money on players.

 

But it doesn't seem to be picked up by the media? Oh and they've got nice big screens 

 

 

 

Quite happy for them to be media darlings nowadays. 
 

Will make it even funnier when things go mammaries skywards. And with recent developments, there’s absolutely no question that there’s trouble on the horizon. Maybe we can use them to send players out on loan to when they are plying their trade in their third incarnation in the EoS league or as a Pitz five a side team.

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9 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I would absolutely help Hibs survive. We literally have the best rivals in football. That's something to be treasured.

We’ve done that once/twice already. Let’s just see them put out their misery now. 

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12 hours ago, jambo19 said:

So just to summarise:

 

Dempster left

 

Mathie got the boot but they didn't really say why then they appoint someone with no experience but on the grounds of he's the chairman's son

 

They rejected bids of approx. 3.5m for Doig, 2m for Nisbet and 1m for Porteous but nobody actually bid for them

 

At the start of the pandemic they laughed in our face to only mothball the academy, sack staff and cut wages when the going gets tough but then spent money on players.

 

But it doesn't seem to be picked up by the media? Oh and they've got nice big screens 

 

 

 

What do they show……the simpsons?……..nothing else of any interest regarding football from that lot.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said:

Hibs are doing well atm. 

 

However they are a player sale or two from becoming bang average and flirting with the bottom 6. 

Boyle is massive for them. 

 

More concerning for them is, the they have a owner who owns the land, employs family members and wants to make money from them. 

 

It could bubble along nicely for a year or two, he makes a few million then hands over to the fans or another owner. Either that or hibs could hit a bad turn, Ross gets sacked, the fans get unhappy and he just drops them, cuts his losses and ****s off. 

 

A few years away from either scenario tho. 

 

Hopefully we continue to get better and it won't really matter what they do. 

 

 

 

I’d be interested to find out how he makes a few million out of them. Assuming it’s players sales, we’ve already seen that strategy is piss and wind. I reckon that the OF are the only Scottish clubs where an outsider has a chance of making a few bob. Even then, Rangers are so much in hock at the moment you might struggle to squeeze anything out of that particular sponge.

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38 minutes ago, S Form said:

I’d be interested to find out how he makes a few million out of them. Assuming it’s players sales, we’ve already seen that strategy is piss and wind. I reckon that the OF are the only Scottish clubs where an outsider has a chance of making a few bob. Even then, Rangers are so much in hock at the moment you might struggle to squeeze anything out of that particular sponge.

 

 

Unsure, for a relatively small investment money can be made imo, but the returns may be £000's rather than tens of millions 

 

The europa conference and league stages are the goal. 

Not only direct revenue but player's value will go up a well. 

 

The problem is that money Likley has to be spent to see that return tho.. 

Probably better ways to make money. 

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When do we get a frothing at the mouth Tam McManus outside Easter road howling at the moon…

 

”Whaurs ra deeds!!!”

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8 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Unsure, for a relatively small investment money can be made imo, but the returns may be £000's rather than tens of millions 

 

The europa conference and league stages are the goal. 

Not only direct revenue but player's value will go up a well. 

 

The problem is that money Likley has to be spent to see that return tho.. 

Probably better ways to make money. 

No expert, but I'd suggest that for an investor to make money from Scottish football he'd have to take it out as and when the money is made by the club. That is, sell a player for £2m and pocket as much of it as he can before it's spent by those trying to keep the club competetive.

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1 hour ago, AllyjamboDerbyshire said:

No expert, but I'd suggest that for an investor to make money from Scottish football he'd have to take it out as and when the money is made by the club. That is, sell a player for £2m and pocket as much of it as he can before it's spent by those trying to keep the club competetive.

 

Yip, almost like a personal commission. 

That was my thoughts. 

 

It does correlate tho, better players in a higher performing team = better sell on value so both goals can be managed if done properly. 

They don't conflict with each other if the person is realistic and not taking too much out. 

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Seems a lot of debate on .nutjob about hsl and them having discussions with the club , keeping the money coming in with hsl and hsl saying that its not being moved until the route to using it is established , issues with the hsl website and they need to keep money for running hsl and maybe changing articles of association.
 

If that was foh id be concerned with those excuses. Arent FoH costs absolutely minimal and we are run by volunteers. 
 

 Im not an expert but how expensive can changing articles of a company be. https://www.gov.uk/make-changes-to-your-limited-company/constitution-and-articles-of-association Doesn’t even appear to mention a cost at first glance. Not transferring money due to hsl website issues? That would be another big red flag from me. I don’t see how any website issue used for conveying info would stop transfer of monies from a bank account to another bank account. 

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15 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Yip, almost like a personal commission. 

That was my thoughts. 

 

It does correlate tho, better players in a higher performing team = better sell on value so both goals can be managed if done properly. 

They don't conflict with each other if the person is realistic and not taking too much out. 

 

 

Usually asset stripping is the way to make money out of football teams. If that was the goal then the few players of any worth need to be talked up and sold quickly (also showcase any previously known US talents and try to secure  out of contract scottish assets.

 

But primarily it would be the land

 

Even the threat of selling it may bring in a buyer/ consortium willing to pay to stop you.


Not saying he's doing that but I'd be watchful if I was a Hibs fan, which thank F I'm not.

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42 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Yip, almost like a personal commission. 

That was my thoughts. 

 

It does correlate tho, better players in a higher performing team = better sell on value so both goals can be managed if done properly. 

They don't conflict with each other if the person is realistic and not taking too much out. 

It’s simple to make a small fortune from owning a Scottish football club. 
 

Start off with a large one. 

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2 hours ago, AllyjamboDerbyshire said:

No expert, but I'd suggest that for an investor to make money from Scottish football he'd have to take it out as and when the money is made by the club. That is, sell a player for £2m and pocket as much of it as he can before it's spent by those trying to keep the club competetive.

 

Like selling a player for £2m and paying the new Head of Recruitment a £500k 'bonus'?

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13 minutes ago, Ked said:

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Didnt Ron say they werent allowed to buy anymore shares? Thats also £18115 a month so less than £5 per person. 

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Maybe it’s just because we’ve seen parallels happen with our club before but if I was a hibee (🤮) I’d be very very weary about trusting Gordon’s intentions. Would love to be a fly on the wall at ER now.

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Just now, sadj said:


Didnt Ron say they werent allowed to buy anymore shares? Thats also £18115 a month so less than £5 per person. 

It looks like a bit of a shitshow.

Sadly I'm enjoying it 🙂

I looked at their fans forum after reading your post .

The HSL thread.

To be fair it might be more of a thing if they find themselves in the bother we found ourselves.

But it is funny reading about updates coming soon and weeks later no updates.

Ron swanning off to America and not bothered his backside.

Shadenfreud and all that.

😂

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3 minutes ago, Gordon Ramsay said:

 

Scaffs

It seems it's difficult to set up contributions and theres little contact towards those that have/do.

 

Hibsing it 😂

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Ron is not here because he's always been a hibby or because he loves Scottish football. He's here to make money, ask one of them to come up with another reason, they can't. Selling players or qualifying for european group stages are needed and neither of those materialized. That's why cuts are being made and people are leaving.

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John Findlay

Apology in advance.

Maybe because of the wisdom of my father I am not a Hibs supporter(thank you so much dad), but reading this post from across the road I get the impression that the club Hibs are only interested in HSL for the money they provide, and I get the impression the club do with it what they please. The club treat HSL with total contempt imho.

 

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9 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Apology in advance.

Maybe because of the wisdom of my father I am not a Hibs supporter(thank you so much dad), but reading this post from across the road I get the impression that the club Hibs are only interested in HSL for the money they provide, and I get the impression the club do with it what they please. The club treat HSL with total contempt imho.

 

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That second last paragraph 🤣

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2 minutes ago, sadj said:

That second last paragraph 🤣

That paragraph says it all.

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7 minutes ago, Ked said:

Screenshot_20211012-140039_Chrome.thumb.jpg.40c4de5919cb87b341a28a82c4c7843d.jpgCan anyone tell me of Gordon Jnr experience in football?

😂😂


I asked my pet hobbit about this appointment and his response was random ramblings of a mutant as normal, something along the lines of “likesay, he brought this American player over, brilliant likesay and if he can do more of that it would be great, likesay”

I had to walk away as it didn’t make any sense. 

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1 hour ago, Ked said:

It looks like a bit of a shitshow.

Sadly I'm enjoying it 🙂

I looked at their fans forum after reading your post .

The HSL thread.

To be fair it might be more of a thing if they find themselves in the bother we found ourselves.

But it is funny reading about updates coming soon and weeks later no updates.

Ron swanning off to America and not bothered his backside.

Shadenfreud and all that.

😂

I suspect it would be different if that happened. 

I think they've always compared themselves to us and kidded themselves on they were well run.

I also wouldn't underestimate the effects of the cup win on fans' attitudes. 

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1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Like selling a player for £2m and paying the new Head of Recruitment a £500k 'bonus'?

I'm sure there are ways to legitimately move money from a football club, like starting to charge rent for a ground and training facilities if not already doing so, or putting the rent up if rent already being charged. But, as you say, directors' bonuses, for, say, their part in any lucrative sale, would work nicely, too.

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7 minutes ago, AllyjamboDerbyshire said:

I'm sure there are ways to legitimately move money from a football club, like starting to charge rent for a ground and training facilities if not already doing so, or putting the rent up if rent already being charged. But, as you say, directors' bonuses, for, say, their part in any lucrative sale, would work nicely, too.

Cant pay director bonuses until they repay the government i believe

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53 minutes ago, Ked said:

Screenshot_20211012-140039_Chrome.thumb.jpg.40c4de5919cb87b341a28a82c4c7843d.jpgCan anyone tell me of Gordon Jnr experience in football?

😂😂

 

I think he scored a touchdown once, Ked. 

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jonnothejambo
19 minutes ago, sadj said:

Cant pay director bonuses until they repay the government i believe

 

In Hibs parlance what is the difference between their bonus and their p*nis? 

 

Their uncle is guaranteed to blow their p3nis...

 

Sorry. No infraction I hope. I've been a good boy recently.

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10 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

In Hibs parlance what is the difference between their bonus and their p*nis? 

 

Their uncle is guaranteed to blow their p3nis...

 

Sorry. No infraction I hope. I've been a good boy recently.

🤣🤣 superb 

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Drew Wallace

Not seen much of this on the thread, referring to the Hobos rather generous interest free loan 

Because i think that's what they are like living off right now.

 Though once that's done, what do you do !!

 

Only a matter of time before  the wee teams financial woes surface  and that will be a joy to read and see

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18 hours ago, jambo19 said:

So just to summarise:

 

Dempster left

 

Mathie got the boot but they didn't really say why then they appoint someone with no experience but on the grounds of he's the chairman's son

 

They rejected bids of approx. 3.5m for Doig, 2m for Nisbet and 1m for Porteous but nobody actually bid for them

 

At the start of the pandemic they laughed in our face to only mothball the academy, sack staff and cut wages when the going gets tough but then spent money on players.

 

But it doesn't seem to be picked up by the media? Oh and they've got nice big screens 

 

 

 

 

Paid for or leased? 

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