Ked Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 No doubting they are pedigree. Easily swept Hungary aside. If the finals were not in a joke of a country I'd fancy them to win the next world cup. Really building something . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboT Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Southgate played a more attaching team tonight than the 7-2-1 formation he played in the Euro final and I think it suits England better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Elwood P Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 4 minutes ago, Ked said: No doubting they are pedigree. Easily swept Hungary aside. If the finals were not in a joke of a country I'd fancy them to win the next world cup. Really building something . They just played every game of Euro2020 at Wembley and still made an arse of it. Pedigree Chum! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewB Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: They just played every game of Euro2020 at Wembley and still made an arse of it. Pedigree Chum! Nearly every game! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Vince Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, BarneyBattles said: Appreciate you’re out for bites but that’s total shite. England got beat by the first good team they played in the Euros. As they always have done in every tournament they’ve been in in my 51 years on this planet. They don’t have the players, nor the tactics to win a tournament. They came very close to winning a competition that was very open. Had their early supremacy in that final led to a second goal then it would have been very hard for their opponents. Can't see them coming close in the WC but the next euros will be interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: Appreciate you’re out for bites but that’s total shite. England got beat by the first good team they played in the Euros. As they always have done in every tournament they’ve been in in my 51 years on this planet. They don’t have the players, nor the tactics to win a tournament. Bites? Settled at the back albeit not a great keeper. Balanced in midfield.Pacey with a bit bite.Sterling is a cracking player Kane a goalscorer. And a great team spirit with a manager that has the team onside. Why am I looking for bites? Dont be ridiculous Edited September 2 by Ked Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 13 minutes ago, Ked said: No doubting they are pedigree. Easily swept Hungary aside. If the finals were not in a joke of a country I'd fancy them to win the next world cup. Really building something . Argentina Brazil Chile Mexico Belgium Italy France All teams I'd back to beat England on a one off game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 8 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: They just played every game of Euro2020 at Wembley and still made an arse of it. Pedigree Chum! Weren't far away and blew it . They look like a team that's maturing . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Nae luck if they get a hard draw. England have been making qualifying easy for 20 years. Bulgaria drew with Italy tonight and Bosnia drew with France last night. Are they shite? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Tbf, Scotland would have swept Hungary away, they are shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 17 minutes ago, Ked said: No doubting they are pedigree. Easily swept Hungary aside. If the finals were not in a joke of a country I'd fancy them to win the next world cup. Really building something . So you don't think they'll do well in Qatar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Argentina Brazil Chile Mexico Belgium Italy France All teams I'd back to beat England on a one off game. And teams that England are capable if beating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Just now, Cruyff said: Tbf, Scotland would have swept Hungary away, they are shite. Behave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Just now, Mikey1874 said: So you don't think they'll do well in Qatar? I think Qatar makes for a different set of skills given the conditions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VALDOS' Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 They're just not all that great, we saw at the Euros how they struggle against organised teams, Scotland and Denmark and Italy proved that. They just don't create much when teams know how to defend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Ked said: Behave It's true. Hungary are worse than us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Just now, VALDOS' said: They're just not all that great, we saw at the Euros how they struggle against organised teams, Scotland and Denmark and Italy proved that. They just don't create much when teams know how to defend. Hungary has an impressive record. Scoring 4 on their patch and Englanf dont know how to create Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Ked said: I think Qatar makes for a different set of skills given the conditions. Air conditioned stadiums keeping the temperature below most summer events? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ked said: And teams that England are capable if beating. In your opinion but not mine. Haven't even mentioned Japan, Portugal, Germany, Netherlands or Denmark. Edited September 2 by Malinga the Swinga Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Just now, Cruyff said: It's true. Hungary are worse than us. 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brighton Jambo Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Hungary are a decent team who can compete with the big guns on their day as they proved in the Euros. They have lost one game in 14 before tonight and we’re at home in front of a 60,000 partisan crowd. To go and win 4-0 there is a very impressive result and to say otherwise is ignorant and churlish. However to use that result as the pretext for making England one of the favourites for the World Cup is ridiculously premature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
One five Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 They are not a bad team tbf but… I just hope they win FA . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VALDOS' Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Ked said: Hungary has an impressive record. Scoring 4 on their patch and Englanf dont know how to create No, not against well organised teams, again I'll point out Scotland, Denmark and Italy at the Euros. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, One five said: They are not a bad team tbf but… I just hope they win FA . They won't. It will follow same process, media will pretend to be underdogs, win one game, then the bravado starts and they hype themselves into frenzy. They then lose to first decent team they play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Just now, VALDOS' said: No, not against well organised teams, again I'll point out Scotland, Denmark and Italy at the Euros. Against Scotland they were off form. Denmark were and are on a great run. The Italian team were the team of the tournament but a little fortunate to win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otterjohn Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 To be fair I've never had much time for England but Keds right they are not fat from being a really top team PITY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffros Furios Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 England are boring pish !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
One five Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Just now, Malinga the Swinga said: They won't. It will follow same process, media will pretend to be underdogs, win one game, then the bravado starts and they hype themselves into frenzy. They then lose to first decent team they play. Yip it’s the English way bud and long may it last. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Just now, BarneyBattles said: I’ve no idea why you’re looking for bites. I can’t answer your own question. To randomly start a thread picking out England as ‘really fancying them to win the next world cup if it was in a different country as they’re really building something’ is a weird statement. That’s all. As I said in my first reply, the first time they meet a decent team, they get knocked out. That’s because they’re nowhere near the level required to win the euros let alone the World Cup. Below average goalie, average defence, average midfield, slightly better forwards. Italy played with them like a kitten. Randomly ? They were just on the tele won 4-0 away from home. That's classed as weird aye.? Have a word with yourself ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VALDOS' Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Jeffros Furios said: England are boring pish !! Finally, a thorough and accurate assessment of the English national team lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brighton Jambo Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, BarneyBattles said: I’ve no idea why you’re looking for bites. I can’t answer your own question. To randomly start a thread picking out England as ‘really fancying them to win the next world cup if it was in a different country as they’re really building something’ is a weird statement. That’s all. As I said in my first reply, the first time they meet a decent team, they get knocked out. That’s because they’re nowhere near the level required to win the euros let alone the World Cup. Below average goalie, average defence, average midfield, slightly better forwards. Italy played with them like a kitten. Speaking of looking for bites… A team that reaches a final of a major tournament before losing on penalties cannot be described as ‘being nowhere near the level to win the Euros’. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo in Bathgate Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 6 minutes ago, VALDOS' said: No, not against well organised teams, again I'll point out Scotland, Denmark and Italy at the Euros. You are including Scotland in that list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, Ked said: Randomly ? They were just on the tele won 4-0 away from home. That's classed as weird aye.? Have a word with yourself ffs Italy played some brilliant football versus Bulgaria. Drew 1-1. Be interested if you can watch replay of that game and compare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VALDOS' Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Just now, Jambo in Bathgate said: You are including Scotland in that list. Every man and they're dog that watched that game in the Euros knows Scotland were extremely well organised, hence the England players running into dead ends time and time again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Italy played some brilliant football versus Bulgaria. Drew 1-1. Be interested if you can watch replay of that game and compare. Not sure why my reply to his assumption that I'm a weirdo because I posted about Englands game makes you suggest watching Italy v Bulgaria . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 3 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: I’ve just realised who you were the last time you had an account on here😂 Bye bye. Do you. Well done sherlock. And I'm glad you are saying bye bye. Quite how you think someone commenting on a game of football is weird is your problem. What a banger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1971fozzy Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 England shit the bed every time they get to a semi or final. It a bit like hibs. Thoroughly enjoyable to watch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo in Bathgate Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 3 minutes ago, VALDOS' said: Every man and they're dog that watched that game in the Euros knows Scotland were extremely well organised, hence the England players running into dead ends time and time again. Well my dog agrees with me. How many games have Scotland won. It’s another case of Glorious Failure. Unfortunately it’s been going on for decades! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brighton Jambo Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 3 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: You’ll get over it soon mate. Edit. Scottish people don’t post on forums of Scottish football teams looking for bites from England supporters ya fekking trumpet😂 😂😂 of course you were. You don’t believe what you typed as it is patently total nonsense. No team can lose a final on penalties and then be described as being nowhere near as it’s factually totally wrong and you know it. you talked crap, got called for it and now are giving it the tragic patter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 I think overall you need more than England have to win tournaments. It is true they got close last 2 times. Harry Kane missed a sitter v Croatia at semi final at World Cup but unlikely they could have beaten that France team in final. France, Belgium, Spain definitely would have beaten them at Euros. 2 good draws. But...it is just as hard for likes of France, Brazil, Argentina, Belgium, Spain, Italy. I think they all need to do more to be true contenders at Qatar. Southgate is trying something similar to Alf Ramsay in a solid game plan to overcome better teams. To get to the next level they need to take chances and avoid losing control. Very difficult against better players which was the problem v Italy. Playing qualifiers in easy group is zero help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 6 minutes ago, Ked said: Not sure why my reply to his assumption that I'm a weirdo because I posted about Englands game makes you suggest watching Italy v Bulgaria . Ah. So you are basically ignoring every other team. Good approach. We do that in Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo in Bathgate Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Brighton Jambo said: 😂😂 of course you were. You don’t believe what you typed as it is patently total nonsense. No team can lose a final on penalties and then be described as being nowhere near as it’s factually totally wrong and you know it. you talked crap, got called for it and now are giving it the tragic patter. Wonder what he posted about our cup final against Celtic that we lost on penalties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 3 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: 😂😂 of course you were. You don’t believe what you typed as it is patently total nonsense. No team can lose a final on penalties and then be described as being nowhere near as it’s factually totally wrong and you know it. you talked crap, got called for it and now are giving it the tragic patter. If England get a tough draw next time then out early playing like they did in Euros. Or World Cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackLadd Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Still basking in that Italy win myself. I see they only drew tonight despite 80% possession. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Just now, BarneyBattles said: Just what I was thinking 😂 8 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: You’ll get over it soon mate. Edit. Scottish people don’t post on forums of Scottish football teams looking for bites from England supporters ya fekking trumpet😂 I'm Scottish . I watched England. I gave an opinion on a football team. And you let your petty little tartan knickers twist my original post . A total banger is what you are . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sassenach Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 I don't really care too much about international football, and I didn't watch tonight's game, but I'll put my twopenn'orth in. My feeling is that, while the current England side is probably the best organised and has the best overall players for many a year, we are missing two very important players. Specifically a goalkeeper of the calibre of a Shilton or a Clemence, and a magician to do something special like a Gascoigne. With the addition of players such as those I think we could do something really special, but the current great organisation is not quite enough. England will always eventually come unstuck against another well-organised team with a bit of individual star quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Just now, JackLadd said: Still basking in that Italy win myself. I see they only drew tonight despite 80% possession. They played well. Same players, style and approach. Just Bulgaria defended with their lives and scored good breakaway equaliser. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TypoonJambo Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Just seen the news coverage of the Hungarian fans conduct. Time for UEFA to grow some balls and chuck them out the competition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brighton Jambo Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: If England get a tough draw next time then out early playing like they did in Euros. Or World Cup. I tend to agree as there is no evidence to the contrary. I was merely pointing out that you cannot legitimately and credibly say that a team that just lost a final on penalties is ‘nowhere near’. That is the only point I was making I don’t want to get caught up in some big debate over England’s prospects for a World Cup they haven’t even qualified for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ked Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Ah. So you are basically ignoring every other team. Good approach. We do that in Scotland. No. I just watched a game ,gave my opinion now theres some banger guessing who I am calling me weird etc. Not you just didnt see your link with my reply. Cant be arsed now tbh as just feel I'm getting drawn into posting like the banger who is obviously one of those bitter plastic tartan types. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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