Last Laff Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Now I'm genuinely not starting this thread to be negative at all BUT everyone seems to have a lot of faith in this guy to do the right thing, to ask questions of Robbie, to do this or that. Where does the confidence come from exactly? I don't see much at all which makes me think I have loads of faith unless it's just blind? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 It's not his job to ask questions of Robbie. Not in his remit at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just to get this straight. You’re not starting this thread to be negative. Correct? The guys been in the job about 6 weeks. I’m calling BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Here's a stream for the Rangers game to take your mind off it all. Enjoy. http://www.hesgoal.com/news/73974/Rangers_vs_Dundee_United.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 My confidence comes from how highly Alex Neil speaks of him and the job he done alongside Alex Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 It's early days - you're right - but Savage has a decent track record for uneathing decent players for Alex Neil when they were both at Hamilton, Norwich and Preston. That puts his CV well above that of John Murray at Hearts. In addtion, he seems to have made many useful contacts in the game down south. If McEneff is anything to go by, it would appear he does indeed have an eye for a player. Let's not expect miracles, but his record suggests he'll be a upgrade on whatever scouting ability we previously had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Now I'm genuinely not starting this thread to be negative at all BUT As far as I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: Just to get this straight. You’re not starting this thread to be negative. Correct? The guys been in the job about 6 weeks. I’m calling BS. No, I'm asking where the blind faith comes from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Now I'm genuinely not starting this thread to be negative at all BUT everyone seems to have a lot of faith in this guy to do the right thing, to ask questions of Robbie, to do this or that. Where does the confidence come from exactly? I don't see much at all which makes me think I have loads of faith unless it's just blind? Thoughts? 🤪😬🤢🤯🥸🤮🥶 "Ask questions of Robbie....." 😂🤣😅😆😁😄😃😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, Last Laff said: No, I'm asking where the blind faith comes from? It's not blind faith. See my post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Lone Striker said: It's early days - you're right - but Savage has a decent track record for uneathing decent players for Alex Neil when they were both at Hamilton, Norwich and Preston. That puts his CV well above that of John Murray at Hearts. In addtion, he seems to have made many useful contacts in the game down south. If McEneff is anything to go by, it would appear he does indeed have an eye for a player. Let's not expect miracles, but his record suggests he'll be a upgrade on whatever scouting ability we previously had. Scouting, it couldn't be any worse. I just don't see why Savage is this messiah, blind faith has gotten us in this utter mess in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: No, I'm asking where the blind faith comes from? But it isn't blind faith if the guy has a good record, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, GavK1012 said: 🤪😬🤢🤯🥸🤮🥶 "Ask questions of Robbie....." 😂🤣😅😆😁😄😃😀 Yes, I read that on the Robbie out thread. Now Savage is here he will see and ask questions of Robbie. Why? Is that his job? does anyone know? The Alex Neil point is decent because I think he's a brilliant coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Scouting, it couldn't be any worse. I just don't see why Savage is this messiah, blind faith has gotten us in this utter mess in the first place. OK. I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, Riccarton3 said: But it isn't blind faith if the guy has a good record, is it? At what? Preston are sitting nearer the bottom than the top and the chairman of Preston didn't trust him, that's why he left. It is blind faith. It's just mental behavior when we should be apprehensive of every appointment because most are wrong. Even the ****ing stadium development choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: At what? Preston are sitting nearer the bottom than the top and the chairman of Preston didn't trust him, that's why he left. It is blind faith. It's just mental behavior when we should be apprehensive of every appointment because most are wrong. Even the ****ing stadium development choice. Blind faith would be if they appointed you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: At what? Preston are sitting nearer the bottom than the top and the chairman of Preston didn't trust him, that's why he left. It is blind faith. It's just mental behavior when we should be apprehensive of every appointment because most are wrong. Even the ****ing stadium development choice. This guy "didn't start the thread to be negative". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Last Laff said: No, I'm asking where the blind faith comes from? Blind faith I believe is based on No proof and hoping something will change. Savage has a history. So it’s more Faith and Hope. Certainly not blind by any Hearts fan. You on the other hand..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Sporting director appointed for sporting director role. Blind faith..Messiah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: It's early days - you're right - but Savage has a decent track record for uneathing decent players for Alex Neil when they were both at Hamilton, Norwich and Preston. That puts his CV well above that of John Murray at Hearts. In addtion, he seems to have made many useful contacts in the game down south. If McEneff is anything to go by, it would appear he does indeed have an eye for a player. Let's not expect miracles, but his record suggests he'll be a upgrade on whatever scouting ability we previously had. Alex Neil for new manager when he's sacked from Preston anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackford Hearts Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: It's early days - you're right - but Savage has a decent track record for unearthing decent players for Alex Neil when they were both at Hamilton, Norwich and Preston. That puts his CV well above that of John Murray at Hearts. In addition, he seems to have made many useful contacts in the game down south. If McEneff is anything to go by, it would appear he does indeed have an eye for a player. Let's not expect miracles, but his record suggests he'll be a upgrade on whatever scouting ability we previously had. Has he left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, WageThief said: This guy "didn't start the thread to be negative". I didn't. I asked why the blind faith. Any answers considering as a support we kind of give all kind of muppets the benefit of the doubt. Now Savage is the savior based on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I'm assuming that's why all signings must be a joint collaboration...so that when the axe swings it's the manager and not the sporting director? Perfectly happy with Savage but it is worthy of discussion...when is a sporting directors job on a shoogly peg...or is it ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: Blind faith I believe is based on No proof and hoping something will change. Savage has a history. So it’s more Faith and Hope. Certainly not blind by any Hearts fan. You on the other hand..... So it's faith, blindly then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: Blind faith would be if they appointed you. So you can't explain but want to have a dig then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, been here before said: As far as I got. 22 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: OK. I'm out. 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Scouting, it couldn't be any worse. I just don't see why Savage is this messiah, blind faith has gotten us in this utter mess in the first place. He's not, but he is a very naughty boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Whole scouting system to be looked at by all accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, martoon said: He's not, but he is a very naughty boy. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Last Laff said: So it's faith, blindly then. As we understand his background and experience, has done a similar role before and was touted for SD jobs in England previously then I don’t see it as blind faith. Have some faith man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 what job do you do ? And how did you get it? Presumably you’ve got the right experience and / or a good reputation. Mceneff had a good game yesterday till he ran out of steam. Understandable given he had played since December, and Gnando also did very well when he came on how About we give the guy a chance instead of trying to throw the baby out with the bath water every ****ing time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, martoon said: He's not, but he is a very naughty boy. 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Looked on the Hearts website went through all the names came to Savage and thought he'll do, no ones started a not to be negative but... type post yet on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, kingantti1874 said: what job do you do ? And how did you get it? Presumably you’ve got the right experience and / or a good reputation. Mceneff had a good game yesterday till he ran out of steam. Understandable given he had played since December, and Gnando also did very well when he came on how About we give the guy a chance instead of trying to throw the baby out with the bath water every ****ing time I am 100% willing to give the boy a chance. That's not the question though, thread after thread "now we have Savage" based on what? Did he sanction the signings of all the January signings or just the good one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Last Laff said: I didn't. I asked why the blind faith. Any answers considering as a support we kind of give all kind of muppets the benefit of the doubt. Now Savage is the savior based on what? It's based on blind faith, isn't it? If this thread isn't about you attempting to be negative, are you just attempting to redefine blind faith? Or is it a convoluted way for you to learn the correct definition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Last Laff said: I am 100% willing to give the boy a chance. That's not the question though, thread after thread "now we have Savage" based on what? Did he sanction the signings of all the January signings or just the good one? based on his experience, CV presumably and his interview presumably . At our level not every signing will be a good one and that’s just a fact Edited February 21, 2021 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Does the OP know what blind faith means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Stanley_ said: Does the OP know what blind faith means? Tuune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 A Savage oot thread already.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Not seen anyone saying he should be "oot" to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Deary me Give the guy a chance FFS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Savage will tell Ann that its pointless bringing in new players if the Levein Clone in the dugout remains . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 So Joe Savage was supposed to end 5 years of shite in 1 transfer window?🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Good band Blind Faith Unlike this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: So Joe Savage was supposed to end 5 years of shite in 1 transfer window?🤣🤣 Have faith. 👨🏻🦯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Isn’t Joe Savage supposed to work alongside with Neilson. Whereas, Neilson is supposed to be monitored by McKinlay and Budge. That’s what I thought anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: So Joe Savage was supposed to end 5 years of shite in 1 transfer window?🤣🤣 Who said that ? 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Stanley_ said: Does the OP know what blind faith means? He’s looking for the presence of the lord I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Isn’t Joe Savage supposed to work alongside with Neilson. Whereas, Neilson is supposed to be monitored by McKinlay and Budge. That’s what I thought anyway. Don’t know about McKinlay but Robbie is the same level as Savage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Is everybody bored blaming Budge, Levein, Perriera and Robbie and just need a new name to whine and moan about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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