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Is in a few papers. 

 

Sick of the OF. 

Hearts relegated because of Celtic calling the shots. 

 

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And, of course, below an article which includes comments about the media being obsessed with them, is a back page headline all about Celtic being in a crisis because they lost a few games.

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2 minutes ago, Smithee said:

I was gutted it never worked out for him but he's a good lad, has the correct levels of contempt for hibs, celtic and the rangers.

He can now mouth off about them with no come back on hearts. 

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Just sounds bitter. 
 

He is correct but just comes across like someone who was fed up losing to the OF on a regular basis. 

 

And we shouldn’t have been near the relegation zone with the money and influence he had. 

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13 minutes ago, allystrachan said:

He’s right.... but he was also to blame for hearts being relegated. 

He carries responsibility for us being awful when Stendel took over but that's going too far for me.

We were demoted by vote after Stendel didn't do enough.

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36 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said:

Nothing to do with him then and the way he messed up for two years?  
 

Thought not, never his fault. 

He's one of us. 👍 

More than can be said for some. 

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28 minutes ago, allystrachan said:

He’s right.... but he was also to blame for hearts being relegated. 

Yeah, he seems to gloss over his own failures.

He should've been a great fit for Hearts-

Knew the club & scottish football inside out

Plenty of experience 

Talked a good game,  still does, re youth development.  

 

But he fk'd up big time & damaged his reputation by not walking away

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34 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

Just sounds bitter. 
 

He is correct but just comes across like someone who was fed up losing to the OF on a regular basis. 

 

And we shouldn’t have been near the relegation zone with the money and influence he had. 

 

Your first line is a cracker. 

Irony..... 

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13 minutes ago, Tennant's 6's said:

Yeah, he seems to gloss over his own failures.

He should've been a great fit for Hearts-

Knew the club & scottish football inside out

Plenty of experience 

Talked a good game,  still does, re youth development.  

 

But he fk'd up big time & damaged his reputation by not walking away

Agree.  His problem was that he was too much a "Hearts man" (and still is) and just couldn't see the wood for the trees.  Yes, he comes across as bitter because of that, but I'm sure he's hurting.

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We are all sick of the old firm but we were also growing sick of losing to teams with budgets much less than ours when Craig was in charge. I like the way he speaks his mind and he still ranks as one of the best defenders I have seen watching Hearts so he deserves respect but he should have read the signs after the cup final and stepped down even if Ann Budge had insisted he stayed in place.

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"the ALLEGED influence of Celtic and Rangers on Scottish football over the years"

 

What on earth is that word doing there??! That's hilarious.

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I think Craig get a rougher deal than he deserves. We don't need to rake the coals of the last few seasons, it's in the record books but his contribution during his playing days and first spell as manager shouldn't be erased from history. Nor should his restructure at Dundee United, they totally fell apart when he left but they were in a good place with the youth development that he implemented. He is in some ways a visionary, the fact that he couldn't deliver that vision for us or Scotland doesn't mean that he was wrong. The academy and football schools are the way to go it just turned out that he wasn't the one to deliver it. Unfortunately for Scotland they chose Malky Mackay to do it! But Levein's  views on football are still relevant, for more than any of the other pundits who haven't a fraction of his experience. 

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23 minutes ago, Hackney Hearts said:

"the ALLEGED influence of Celtic and Rangers on Scottish football over the years"

 

What on earth is that word doing there??! That's hilarious.

It proves the point that Levein was about to make in that article!!!! :Stupid_Heads_by_Vir

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5 minutes ago, Anything2 said:

I think Craig get a rougher deal than he deserves. We don't need to rake the coals of the last few seasons, it's in the record books but his contribution during his playing days and first spell as manager shouldn't be erased from history. Nor should his restructure at Dundee United, they totally fell apart when he left but they were in a good place with the youth development that he implemented. He is in some ways a visionary, the fact that he couldn't deliver that vision for us or Scotland doesn't mean that he was wrong. The academy and football schools are the way to go it just turned out that he wasn't the one to deliver it. Unfortunately for Scotland they chose Malky Mackay to do it! But Levein's  views on football are still relevant, for more than any of the other pundits who haven't a fraction of his experience. 


He was given a blank canvas; a generous budget, a supportive owner and a benefactor and fans pumping in millions. 
 

He left us floundering at the wrong end of the table with an unbalanced squad, players on expensive long term deals sitting in the stand and no discernible quality breaking through from the Academy. 
 

And a visionary? Just not seeing that, no pun intended. 

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1 hour ago, luckydug said:

He's one of us. 👍 

More than can be said for some. 


Is he?  Is that why he stayed and ripped a wage even after getting sacked? 

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11 minutes ago, Anything2 said:

I think Craig get a rougher deal than he deserves. We don't need to rake the coals of the last few seasons, it's in the record books but his contribution during his playing days and first spell as manager shouldn't be erased from history. Nor should his restructure at Dundee United, they totally fell apart when he left but they were in a good place with the youth development that he implemented. He is in some ways a visionary, the fact that he couldn't deliver that vision for us or Scotland doesn't mean that he was wrong. The academy and football schools are the way to go it just turned out that he wasn't the one to deliver it. Unfortunately for Scotland they chose Malky Mackay to do it! But Levein's  views on football are still relevant, for more than any of the other pundits who haven't a fraction of his experience. 


Hi Craig.  Sounded good on fitba daft yesterday.  Perhaps that your level now. 

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Just now, Nookie Bear said:


He was given a blank canvas; a generous budget, a supportive owner and a benefactor and fans pumping in millions. 
 

He left us floundering at the wrong end of the table with an unbalanced squad, players on expensive long term deals sitting in the stand and no discernible quality breaking through from the Academy. 
 

And a visionary? Just not seeing that, no pun intended. 

He didn't deliver but his intention to have football schools that provide education and professional coaching, feeding a development system that plays the first teams style, using sports science and S&C specialists, data analysis, measuring the length of grass, he wasn't wrong just didn't work out for him. And it only didn't work out for the final few years. He was fantastic for us the previous time. 

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1 hour ago, Inch Hearts said:

Nothing to do with him then and the way he messed up for two years?  
 

Thought not, never his fault. 


he is 100% correct.

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5 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said:


Hi Craig.  Sounded good on fitba daft yesterday.  Perhaps that your level now. 

I don't understand the faux outrage, he's a vastly experienced guy who has more right to have his opinion heard than Thompson, Stewart, Riordan etc. 

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1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said:


He was given a blank canvas; a generous budget, a supportive owner and a benefactor and fans pumping in millions. 
 

He left us floundering at the wrong end of the table with an unbalanced squad, players on expensive long term deals sitting in the stand and no discernible quality breaking through from the Academy. 
 

And a visionary? Just not seeing that, no pun intended. 

He tried to do some new things.

  • I think his own playing career and injuries influenced his strategy of signing players who were a bit damaged - physically or psychologically - but were decent players. It didn't really work so left us looking like a charity...
  • I think his ideas on attacking were somewhat archaic in that he always saought the big No 9 but this is no difference to pretty much most managers Hearts have had in my lifetime, and my personal opinion is that it is driven by the restricted width of Tynecastle where it takes very special wingers to find or create space and this is harder now with wingbacks/attacking FBs workrate in the modern game.
  • I think he signed too many players who were same-y and the young players coming through were similar! All technically good but slow as a month of Sundays.
  • I think he had too many playersfull stop, considering none seemed to be adequate deputies when we had injuries, and we had a lot of injuries...In retrospect a smaller squad of more robust, better players would've been far preferable.
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7 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


He was given a blank canvas; a generous budget, a supportive owner and a benefactor and fans pumping in millions. 
 

He left us floundering at the wrong end of the table with an unbalanced squad, players on expensive long term deals sitting in the stand and no discernible quality breaking through from the Academy. 
 

And a visionary? Just not seeing that, no pun intended. 

 

A measured and factual response.

 

Glad to see nobody has risen to Smith's right Hibs' blatant attempt to start a bunfight before retreating to the moral high ground.

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I really don't want to get involved in a Craig debate. I do blame him for a big chunk of this shit show but the man is maroon and I am at a stage (now the dust has settled) that I have warmth for him once again.  A fantastic servant to our fantastic club.

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2 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

I really don't want to get involved in a Craig debate. I do blame him for a big chunk of this shit show but the man is maroon and I am at a stage (now the dust has settled) that I have warmth for him once again.  A fantastic servant to our fantastic club.


yep, I just can’t hold a lasting grudge against him.  Just held on too long

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Yes, Levein was largely responsible for our relegation but it does not devalue his statement. Celtic's desperation/obsession for their 10 in a row was almost certainly a decisive factor in the calling of the league. Leven regularly called it as he saw it, particularly regarding the OF and I respect him for that because plenty of others refuse to do so. I accept that there will be bigger clubs in all leagues but the OF don't take on that responsibility with any honour whatsoever; they are big clubs but absolutely petty and small-minded, obsessed with each other and regularly embarass us on the European stage with their disgraceful behaviour. Thing is, if they actually worked for the greater interest of Scottish football, rather than themselves, they would probably benefit more from it. I think they are disgraceful organisations and embody some of the worst things about Scotland.

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18 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


He was given a blank canvas; a generous budget, a supportive owner and a benefactor and fans pumping in millions. 
 

He left us floundering at the wrong end of the table with an unbalanced squad, players on expensive long term deals sitting in the stand and no discernible quality breaking through from the Academy. 
 

And a visionary? Just not seeing that, no pun intended. 

 

 

Ffs, we know. 

 

This is about someone calling out the OF and celtics influence on the vote. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

A measured and factual response.

 

Glad to see nobody has risen to Smith's right Hibs' blatant attempt to start a bunfight before retreating to the moral high ground.

 

 

Ffs, a guy calls out the OF and celtics influence on the vote and your first first is to get on over posters on here. 

 

Others want  to re hash the same shite that's been said 100 times. 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

I really don't want to get involved in a Craig debate. I do blame him for a big chunk of this shit show but the man is maroon and I am at a stage (now the dust has settled) that I have warmth for him once again.  A fantastic servant to our fantastic club.

 

Well said. 

He was to blame for a large chunk but all Hearts fans should be behind him on this call. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Ffs, we know. 

 

This is about someone calling out the OF and celtics influence on the vote. 

 

 


He hasn’t called them out or even used the BBC platform he has to do so.  Why not?  Too much to lose than speak what the truth is?  Instead he was speaking to Grado and bob from river city instead.  

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5 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said:


He hasn’t called them out or even used the BBC platform he has to do so.  Why not?  Too much to lose than speak what the truth is?  Instead he was speaking to Grado and bob from river city instead.  

 

Dunno. 

 

So you don't agree? 

You don't think celtic had an influence on the vote? 

 

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28 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


He was given a blank canvas; a generous budget, a supportive owner and a benefactor and fans pumping in millions. 
 

He left us floundering at the wrong end of the table with an unbalanced squad, players on expensive long term deals sitting in the stand and no discernible quality breaking through from the Academy. 
 

And a visionary? Just not seeing that, no pun intended. 

Are we going to have to go through the last couple of seasons failings every time CL speaks out ? 

He's on our side we should be happy to have him poking a stick at the corrupt outfits who ruin the game here. 

 

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I don't think he's said anything we don't already know anyway. The problem is that there's very few clubs that could at least get close to them and challenge them, one of them is us. It's more than just those two arse-cheeks having the bigger finances, it should also be down to the SPFL/SFA to look after ALL their clubs in a fair manner and referees to also treat all clubs in the same manner. The bias shown towards those two has been ruining football in Scotland for decades. The first few dodgy decisions i ever saw back in the 80s were Rangers or Celtic against Hearts. And it only got worse as the years rolled on to the point that it's almost expected that they get a decision or two during a game. 

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1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Ffs, a guy calls out the OF and celtics influence on the vote and your first first is to get on over posters on here. 

 

Others want  to re hash the same shite that's been said 100 times. 

 

 

 

 

 

'Oor Craig' - A man who spunked a fortune on shite and almost single handedly dismantled all of the good work done on the football side since administration. 'Oor Craig' right enough. 

 

:rofl:

 

You know how divisive a figure he is, so starting a thread titled 'Oor Craig' is either

A. a concious attempt to get a  rise out of Levein's critics and  get a bunfight going so you can retreat to your moral high ground and come out with stuff like 'Others want to re hash the same shite that's been said 100 times".

 

B. an indicator of gross stupidity.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, luckydug said:

Are we going to have to go through the last couple of seasons failings every time CL speaks out ? 

He's on our side we should be happy to have him poking a stick at the corrupt outfits who ruin the game here. 

 

 

 

Unfortunately the answer is yes. 

 

 

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Just now, luckydug said:

Are we going to have to go through the last couple of seasons failings every time CL speaks out ? 

He's on our side we should be happy to have him poking a stick at the corrupt outfits who ruin the game here. 

 

 

That's all very well but it's not going to make a jot of difference in the grand scheme of things to anyone of any importance. As the old saying goes, today's headlines, tomorrow's fish & chip wrapper. (when you could do that!)

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17 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said:

Yes, Levein was largely responsible for our relegation but it does not devalue his statement. Celtic's desperation/obsession for their 10 in a row was almost certainly a decisive factor in the calling of the league. Leven regularly called it as he saw it, particularly regarding the OF and I respect him for that because plenty of others refuse to do so. I accept that there will be bigger clubs in all leagues but the OF don't take on that responsibility with any honour whatsoever; they are big clubs but absolutely petty and small-minded, obsessed with each other and regularly embarass us on the European stage with their disgraceful behaviour. Thing is, if they actually worked for the greater interest of Scottish football, rather than themselves, they would probably benefit more from it. I think they are disgraceful organisations and embody some of the worst things about Scotland.

I just wish they would relocate to England or anywhere else for that matter and take their vile hordes with them. 

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Just now, Governor Tarkin said:

 

'Oor Craig' - A man who spunked a fortune on shite and almost single handedly dismantled all of the good work done on the football side since administration. 'Oor Craig' right enough. 

 

:rofl:

 

You know how divisive a figure he is, so starting a thread titled 'Oor Craig' is either

A. a concious attempt to get a  rise out of Levein's critics and  get a bunfight going so you can retreat to your moral high ground and come out with stuff like 'Others want to re hash the same shite that's been said 100 times".

 

B. an indicator of gross stupidity.

 

 

 

 

 

So you don't agree with what he's said?

 

The only folk that are starting a bun fight are those not talking about the subject, probably due to

 

1. Conscious attempt to start an argument about when CL was with us. 

 

2. Gross stupidity. 

 

 

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watch him disappear from the bbc now.

 

great comments though and needs said more often from more non OF people in the game. i have always liked CL jus glad he's no longer in charge 

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2 hours ago, Inch Hearts said:

Nothing to do with him then and the way he messed up for two years?  
 

Thought not, never his fault. 

Our slump started with Cathro which is all down to Levein. I don't doubt his intentions were for the benefit of the club but Fidel and Malaury Martin,  and that league cup game against Dunferline were all low points for the club.

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7 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

'Oor Craig' - A man who spunked a fortune on shite and almost single handedly dismantled all of the good work done on the football side since administration. 'Oor Craig' right enough. 

 

:rofl:

 

You know how divisive a figure he is, so starting a thread titled 'Oor Craig' is either

A. a concious attempt to get a  rise out of Levein's critics and  get a bunfight going so you can retreat to your moral high ground and come out with stuff like 'Others want to re hash the same shite that's been said 100 times".

 

B. an indicator of gross stupidity.

 

 

 

 

Nah, The only folk that are causing a bun fight are those ignoring the thread subject, likely due to-

 

1. A conscious effort to argue with other posters about the same stuff, again. 

 

2.Gross stupidity. 

 

 

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