Texia Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Just been listening to an interview with Andy Webster and of course the topic of the 2005/06 season and George Burleys sacking came up, obviously whenever it's talked about the discussion is around if George had stayed on would we have went on to win the league, and it got me thinking, what are the other biggest/most discussed etc 'what ifs' in the wider view of Scottish football, thinking about the national team, the league or any other Hearts related? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graygo Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Albert Kidd ☹️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, graygo said: Albert Kidd ☹️ What if we had got that penalty early on? 🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graygo Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: What if we had got that penalty early on? 🤷🏼♂️ What if we had rattled 6 in against Hamilton a couple of weeks earlier. So many what is from that season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cookieboy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 9 minutes ago, graygo said: Albert Kidd ☹️ he was only doing his job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, graygo said: What if we had rattled 6 in against Hamilton a couple of weeks earlier. So many what is from that season. That’s the essence of Whatiffery. Anyway, wasn’t it Clydebank? 😎 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
obua Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if Levein had been sacked for punching Graeme Hogg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martoon Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, graygo said: What if we had rattled 6 in against Clydebank a week earlier. So many what is from that season. Ftfy. The answer? Frank McGarvey/Tony Fitzpatrick's St. Mirren 0 Celtic 10, 11,12...whatever was necessary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SomethingAboutObua Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Hearts-Burley, sacking Levein earlier, going into lockdown sooner What if we hadn't ****ed up the whole Setanta thing What if we didn't bow to the OF during the SPL reconstruction What if we had a separate broadcasting networks from BBC and Sky to stop the flood of EPL football being shoved in everyone's faces and ignoring and talking down domestic football Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.T.F.Robertson Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 28 minutes ago, graygo said: What if we had rattled 6 in against Hamilton a couple of weeks earlier. So many what is from that season. Clydebank. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwidoug Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Jensen hadn't hit the post early on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gator Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 33 minutes ago, J.T.F.Robertson said: Clydebank. Yes, I was at the match, we should have scored many more! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luckyBatistuta Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Clydebank is where we lost the league imo. What if we had put a few past Clydebank...then I think Celtic wouldn’t have even been up for it on the last day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luckyBatistuta Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 14 minutes ago, gator said: Yes, I was at the match, we should have scored many more! You could feel the tension that day, massive weight lifted when Mackay hit that screamer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgie Boot boy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if season 2019 -2020 and been played out to the end. The only one i can think that means anything right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luckyBatistuta Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if Charlie Nicholas wasn’t a cant? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luckyBatistuta Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if Ann hadn’t got her money out😬 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luckyBatistuta Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if Willie Miller was lying on the floor on fire? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gator Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, luckyBatistuta said: You could feel the tension that day, massive weight lifted when Mackay hit that screamer. It was a fantastic goal, that was my first visit to Tynecastle, it was magical and the way things ended the following week will never ruin my walk to the famous ground! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamboozy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: What if Willie Miller was lying on the floor on fire? Quandary that one,🤔Do I pish on him or not? Hmmmm, nah, waste of a good pint o pish . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herbert Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, jamboozy said: Quandary that one,🤔Do I pish on him or not? Hmmmm, nah, waste of a good pint o pish . You could pish on the bits that weren't on fire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwidoug Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if this Mcgarvie bloke had an IQ. What if the OF and our neighbors just sodded off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smith's right boot Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Too many.. What if we'd beaten Aek and got to the group stages of the ucl or what if 2nd had given automatic entry in the first place. Burley hadn't been sacked, champions and see above. Alex Ferguson had joined us. SKY gave us the same money ( relative) as they do to English football. We'd held on another 5 minutes at 1-0 in the last sc final, we'd have won it imo. Be Dave or jc had scored in Munich. Sutton had scored the header at 1-0 in the lc. Ah ****, I'm depressed now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie Walker Tash Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if Sergio never told us to ease off in the 2012 final. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smiler Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 4 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: Clydebank is where we lost the league imo. What if we had put a few past Clydebank...then I think Celtic wouldn’t have even been up for it on the last day. We had so many draws and losses that season though, but the roll we were on at that Clydebank game we should have pumped them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finlay James Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if the police never told us to ease off against the wee team in the Mercer derby? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boof Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 4 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: What if Willie Miller was lying on the floor on fire? I would quite contentedly seek the nearest urinal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Debut 4 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 6 hours ago, martoon said: Ftfy. The answer? Frank McGarvey/Tony Fitzpatrick's St. Mirren 0 Celtic 10, 11,12...whatever was necessary. It’s obviously been talked about for decades. We all bemoan not putting more past Clydebank but in the end, it was about the 2 points, winning the game. It kept it all in our hands going into the last match. That’s all we asked at the time. No denying the stitch up at the Midden Shit Pit though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Restonbabe Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 So so so many. What if Locke never got injured in 96 Cup final What if gasgoine never came on in the league Cup final What if Italy never got that free kick What if we all stood up to rangers when they died in 2012 What if naysmith never got injured in the league Cup semi at murrayfield What if mercer succeeded!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Weakened Offender Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) What if Dundee United had defended a 2-0 lead against Roma is a pretty big 'what if' where football in general is concerned. Edited October 30 by Weakened Offender Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wentworth jambo Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if the coppers didn’t come into our dressing room at half time in the “Mercer” derby ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salad Fingers Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if JC had that wee bit more composure when one on one in the Olympiastadion? What if Jim Leighton wasn't bandy-legged? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norm Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Jamie Walker Tash said: What if Sergio never told us to ease off in the 2012 final. Well that's an easy one. It would've been 10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TexasAndy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if Bill Crombie had awarded the stone wall penalty we should have had early in THAT Dundee game. He admitted privately that he did think it was a pen but it was too early to award it!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if Rangers hadn't cheated for all those years when we had a decent team, how many more trophies would we have won, and how much more European football would we have seen? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyCant Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 8 hours ago, graygo said: What if we had rattled 6 in against Hamilton a couple of weeks earlier. So many what is from that season. Or beaten Aberdeen the week before Clydebank, or if Kenny Black hadn’t missed a penalty at Dens earlier in the season, or if Sandy Clark hadn’t missed a sitter at ER in a 0-0 draw....... so many what ifs that season it still hurts to think about them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if Wallace Mercer didn't try to take over the filth when they were on their knees? They'd have died for sure! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hagar the Horrible Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if Yohan Cruff had signed for the Sons? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harry Potter Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 8 hours ago, davemclaren said: What if we had got that penalty early on? 🤷🏼♂️ Jambo ref, ( still hard to believe that) never gave a stone waller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samuel Camazzola Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 59 minutes ago, Restonbabe said: So so so many. What if Locke never got injured in 96 Cup final What if gasgoine never came on in the league Cup final What if Italy never got that free kick What if we all stood up to rangers when they died in 2012 What if naysmith never got injured in the league Cup semi at murrayfield What if mercer succeeded!! Gazza started the match. 👍 On the signing front... What if Celtic had signed Rudi as a left back instead of Mo Kamara? What if Flogel had signed for Dundee United instead of us? What if Adam had opted to go to Hibs instead of us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bunny Munro Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if we'd got one more goal at Anfield, or Webster hadn't scored the OG in the home leg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graygo Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 8 hours ago, cookieboy said: he was only doing his job The question was "what if". I wasn't criticising him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graygo Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 8 hours ago, davemclaren said: That’s the essence of Whatiffery. Anyway, wasn’t it Clydebank? 😎 Yes it was. Hope that they die. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 If Ireland had been really prosperous and no one moved to find work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tian447 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) Slightly wider cast approach: What if Celtic and Rangers had never been founded. Would there be another duo of teams from the West that would have become so dominant, or would things have shifted toward someone else? What if Hearts had never agreed to play Hibs in the first match that would become the Edinburgh Derby? I'm sure the league were against Hibs being allowed to join, so would we now instead be going to Derby matches against St Bernard's (or the Third Edinburgh Rifle Volunteers when they were originally founded in the same year as us), without a Hibernian FC ever existing or being more than an amateur team (insert your own joke here)? A slight change in circumstances way back would have had huge changes to the landscape of Scottish football today. Edited October 30 by tian447 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hagar the Horrible Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if SDM bought Ayr United instead of the pre-sevco side, whatever they used to be called? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gashauskis9 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: If Ireland had been really prosperous and no one moved to find work. Winner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graygo Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: If Ireland had been really prosperous and no one moved to find work. In short - What if there had been plenty tatties in Ireland? Edited October 30 by graygo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie86 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 What if people stood beside Vlad when he was calling the SFA out for what they are? What if the media actually called out OF managers and owners for the hypocrisy and nonsense they spout at times? What if Berra had been in position to clear the ball in the 2019 Cup final (where he would usually be the other 99 times out of 100) instead of it running through to Edouard? What if the Pieman actually sold Tynie and we had moved? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jim747 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Not just Scottish football, but what if no football player in any league, in any country, was allowed to make more than 10k per month (It's more than enough to live on). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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