Diadora Van Basten Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Have we ever signed a decent one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Back in the day I’m pretty sure we signed Stewart MacLaren and Kenny Black from them. Both put in a decent shift for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Glamorgan Jambo said: Back in the day I’m pretty sure we signed Stewart MacLaren and Kenny Black from them. Both put in a decent shift for us. Just checked we signed Chopper MacLaren from Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Glamorgan Jambo said: Back in the day I’m pretty sure we signed Stewart MacLaren and Kenny Black from them. Both put in a decent shift for us. I wasn’t aware of that. The only decent player I can think of was Rab MacKinnon and there has been various players who came with decent reputations and were poor for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Pettigrew. Or, did he come via someone else? Maybe the Arabs? 🤷🏿♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dia Liom Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Nothing but twaddle from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 John Sutton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Fraser Wishart and Rob Mackinnon were both decent FB’s for Motherwell but didn’t do it for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Nicky Walker, Scot Leitch? That’s them all, care of those wonderful chaps at London Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Nicky Walker, Scot Leitch? That’s them all, care of those wonderful chaps at London Hearts. No Elliot Frear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, karipidis said: No Elliot Frear? Must not have updated it, he’s been pretty invisible so we could let them off I suppose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, Morgan said: Pettigrew. Or, did he come via someone else? Maybe the Arabs? 🤷🏿♂️ Yip, Dundee UTD. Almost bankrupted us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Must not have updated it, he’s been pretty invisible so we could let them off I suppose? Fair point, very poor performance last night. Edited October 24, 2020 by karipidis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, karipidis said: Fair point, very poor performance last night. Saving himself for the wide open spaces of Hampden hopefully 🙏🤞. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemi’s gloves Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, karipidis said: No Elliot Frear? Frear’s last club was Forest Green Rovers not Motherwell, which I suspect rather undermines the point of this thread Edit: OK the thread title says ex-Motherwell, not signed from Motherwell. Presumably the list of ex-Motherwell players is longer than shown on the London Hearts listing? Edited October 24, 2020 by Niemi’s gloves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 33 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Yip, Dundee UTD. Almost bankrupted us. Double signing along with Derek Addison. Wallace then found Hearts couldn’t afford the deal and Jim McLean got stuck into us, and expected action from the SFA. The club that came to our rescue were, believe it or not, Celtic. Desmond White said that he wouldn’t expect Hearts to pay the outstanding fee for Roddy McDonald until we had cleared our feet financially. He said he thought it more important that a big club to Scottish football, like Hearts, should be helped to the benefit of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said: Frear’s last club was Forest Green Rovers not Motherwell, which I suspect rather undermines the point of this thread Edit: OK the thread title says ex-Motherwell, not signed from Motherwell. Presumably the list of ex-Motherwell players is longer than shown on the London Hearts listing? Yeah that’s just guys that played for them then us. This is the other ones but some of them played before too. Maybe I’m reading it wrong? Frear not in either 🤔🙈? It’s just Scots. https://www.londonhearts.com/scores/club/motherwell.html Edited October 25, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkabalaJam Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: Yeah that’s just guys that played for them then us. This is the other ones but some of them played before too. Maybe I’m reading it wrong? Frear not in either 🤔🙈? It’s just Scots. https://www.londonhearts.com/scores/club/motherwell.html John Sutton not English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Did Frear not have to become a vegan to play with FGR? Lack of protein obviously affected his stamina to run 10 metres unaided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) Always thought Kenny Black came from Airdrie. Probably because he spent most of his career there although it was after us. Edited October 25, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: Double signing along with Derek Addison. Wallace then found Hearts couldn’t afford the deal and Jim McLean got stuck into us, and expected action from the SFA. The club that came to our rescue were, believe it or not, Celtic. Desmond White said that he wouldn’t expect Hearts to pay the outstanding fee for Roddy McDonald until we had cleared our feet financially. He said he thought it more important that a big club to Scottish football, like Hearts, should be helped to the benefit of the league. Yip, we had a transfer ban for a while. I liked Derek Addison as a player but we sold him to St.Johnstone for £60k, to help clear our debts, after one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Yip, we had a transfer ban for a while. I liked Derek Addison as a player but we sold him to St.Johnstone for £60k, to help clear our debts, after one season. I liked him as well. Many fans didn't, but that was maybe due to the financial trouble we got into over his transfer. Those were certainly very precarious times for the existence and status of our club. Hard to believe that only a few years later we'd come within 7 minutes of being champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part_time_jambo Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 9 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: Double signing along with Derek Addison. Wallace then found Hearts couldn’t afford the deal and Jim McLean got stuck into us, and expected action from the SFA. The club that came to our rescue were, believe it or not, Celtic. Desmond White said that he wouldn’t expect Hearts to pay the outstanding fee for Roddy McDonald until we had cleared our feet financially. He said he thought it more important that a big club to Scottish football, like Hearts, should be helped to the benefit of the league. Changed days indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 9 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: Double signing along with Derek Addison. Wallace then found Hearts couldn’t afford the deal and Jim McLean got stuck into us, and expected action from the SFA. The club that came to our rescue were, believe it or not, Celtic. Desmond White said that he wouldn’t expect Hearts to pay the outstanding fee for Roddy McDonald until we had cleared our feet financially. He said he thought it more important that a big club to Scottish football, like Hearts, should be helped to the benefit of the league. Yep, that is absolutely spot on. Changed days as far as Ceptic goes! Addison was OK but I thought Willie Pettigrew did a terrific job for us & scored quite a few & very important match winning, goals. I remember he got 4 goals v Meadowbank in the East of Scotland shield final & then got another 4 in a league cup game away v Clyde which we won 7-1*! *I got Willie Johnstons autograph at that game as well. Top days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 10 hours ago, davemclaren said: Yip, Dundee UTD. Almost bankrupted us. Pettigrew and Addison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 hours ago, SkabalaJam said: John Sutton not English? Yeah of course, the boys down there are having a bigger nightmare with this list than I am 😆🙈. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Tasavallan said: Did Frear not have to become a vegan to play with FGR? Lack of protein obviously affected his stamina to run 10 metres unaided. Yeah they won’t let their players have protein supplements or anything 🙈. Aaron Hughes was one and Souttar followed him, maybe it had something to do with their fitness, unlikely though. https://www.euronews.com/living/2019/10/14/8-sports-stars-you-knew-were-vegan-and-8-you-didn-t https://www.viva.org.uk/vegan-vegetarian-sportspeople Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 10 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: Double signing along with Derek Addison. Wallace then found Hearts couldn’t afford the deal and Jim McLean got stuck into us, and expected action from the SFA. The club that came to our rescue were, believe it or not, Celtic. Desmond White said that he wouldn’t expect Hearts to pay the outstanding fee for Roddy McDonald until we had cleared our feet financially. He said he thought it more important that a big club to Scottish football, like Hearts, should be helped to the benefit of the league. Didn’t know that what you posted on the 2nd paragraph. Fair play to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 4 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: Double signing along with Derek Addison. Wallace then found Hearts couldn’t afford the deal and Jim McLean got stuck into us, and expected action from the SFA. The club that came to our rescue were, believe it or not, Celtic. Desmond White said that he wouldn’t expect Hearts to pay the outstanding fee for Roddy McDonald until we had cleared our feet financially. He said he thought it more important that a big club to Scottish football, like Hearts, should be helped to the benefit of the league. Ah, the days before selfishness and greed! If there's one decade could go back in time to it's the eighties. Great European nights for all of Scotland's top five clubs back then. Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Celtic, Hearts, Rangers...good days and brilliant away trips in the league to the wee clubs such as Morton, Dundee, Hibs, Hamilton (when they actually had a football ground), Motherwell, Dunfermline etc. Happy Days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Give Frear a chance before putting the boot into him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, jambonian said: Ah, the days before selfishness and greed! If there's one decade could go back in time to it's the eighties. Great European nights for all of Scotland's top five clubs back then. Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Celtic, Hearts, Rangers...good days and brilliant away trips in the league to the wee clubs such as Morton, Dundee, Hibs, Hamilton (when they actually had a football ground), Motherwell, Dunfermline etc. Happy Days! Yes Football has changed hugely since then, not just in Scotland, and not for the better. Money and greed rule now. No chance of anyone other than Celtic or Rangers winning our championship, and no chance of a club like Dundee United reaching a European final. The same, so called elite, clubs want it all to themselves and only want to play on perfect pitches with no desire to compete against smaller clubs on their old traditional grounds. Most of the chances of genuine upsets, which were the lifeblood of real football, are gone. When the “elite” clubs eventually get their super league, and leave the rest of us to it, there might be a chance of real, competitive and unpredictable football breaking out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Re the Pettigrew/Addison deal, my memory of it was that Wallace Mercer had to re-mortgage his house too. Tried to raise funds too with a programme for a league cup game v Rangers where you could win a house and/or a car. Think the programme was about a fiver and was sold weeks before the game in shops. Think it was a two legged semi final. This may have been round about the time where he let unemployed folk in to games cheaper if they should their UB40 card. I was excited when we signed Pettigrew but he turned out to be disappointing like oh so many strikers we have signed in my lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Carl Fredrickson said: Re the Pettigrew/Addison deal, my memory of it was that Wallace Mercer had to re-mortgage his house too. Tried to raise funds too with a programme for a league cup game v Rangers where you could win a house and/or a car. Think the programme was about a fiver and was sold weeks before the game in shops. Think it was a two legged semi final. This may have been round about the time where he let unemployed folk in to games cheaper if they should their UB40 card. I was excited when we signed Pettigrew but he turned out to be disappointing like oh so many strikers we have signed in my lifetime. Didn't do too badly. Gained promotion with us and scored 26/27 goals in three seasons with us. Not too bad when you consider we had a young John Robertson in the team and Jimmy Bone and Sandy Clark arrived upfront to compete with him. Certainly had worse in the years and decades since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 13 hours ago, karipidis said: No Elliot Frear? Did the transfer even go through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I liked Rab McKinnon, a good solid signing that. Chances were always going to be limited with Naysmith breaking through but IMO he would have been a great player for us had it not been for that. I remember a game at Fir Park. The ball fell to him in the box and he had the chance to have a shot but decided to chip the ball right onto Adam's head - goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Nelly Terraces said: Yep, that is absolutely spot on. Changed days as far as Ceptic goes! Addison was OK but I thought Willie Pettigrew did a terrific job for us & scored quite a few & very important match winning, goals. I remember he got 4 goals v Meadowbank in the East of Scotland shield final & then got another 4 in a league cup game away v Clyde which we won 7-1*! *I got Willie Johnstons autograph at that game as well. Top days! Even better that pat nevin played for clyde that day with Craig Brown as manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Salad Fingers said: I liked Rab McKinnon, a good solid signing that. Chances were always going to be limited with Naysmith breaking through but IMO he would have been a great player for us had it not been for that. I remember a game at Fir Park. The ball fell to him in the box and he had the chance to have a shot but decided to chip the ball right onto Adam's head - goal. I liked him. Very dependable kinda player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Willie McVie. I still shudder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Kenny Black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Fort Vallance said: Willie McVie. I still shudder. He cancelled his contract at no cost to us iirc. Serious injury ended his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 12 hours ago, jambonian said: Didn't do too badly. Gained promotion with us and scored 26/27 goals in three seasons with us. Not too bad when you consider we had a young John Robertson in the team and Jimmy Bone and Sandy Clark arrived upfront to compete with him. Certainly had worse in the years and decades since. I think Sandy Clark arrived after Willie P left - could be wrong though. Remember a LC game at Tynecastle in 1983 (midweek) against Rangers - we didn't risk Robbo or Jimmy B since they weren't 100% fit and we were playing them again in the League 3 days later, so Willie P and Derek O'Connor were the strikers in the LC game. Hopeless sums up their performance that night (3-0 defeat) - made more obvious by the return of Robbo and Jimmy B on the Saturday (3-1 win) !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 21 hours ago, jambonian said: Ah, the days before selfishness and greed! If there's one decade could go back in time to it's the eighties. Great European nights for all of Scotland's top five clubs back then. Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Celtic, Hearts, Rangers...good days and brilliant away trips in the league to the wee clubs such as Morton, Dundee, Hibs, Hamilton (when they actually had a football ground), Motherwell, Dunfermline etc. Happy Days! hibs🤣, like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxpop Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 hours ago, Carl Fredrickson said: Re the Pettigrew/Addison deal, my memory of it was that Wallace Mercer had to re-mortgage his house too. Tried to raise funds too with a programme for a league cup game v Rangers where you could win a house and/or a car. Think the programme was about a fiver and was sold weeks before the game in shops. Think it was a two legged semi final. This may have been round about the time where he let unemployed folk in to games cheaper if they should their UB40 card. I was excited when we signed Pettigrew but he turned out to be disappointing like oh so many strikers we have signed in my lifetime. yeah, Dundee Utd has us over a barrel then... we were looking at selling bowman or mackay to cover that debt. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19820218&id=s7dAAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yaUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=4420,3378126&hl=en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 21 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Give Frear a chance before putting the boot into him. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Is it just me, or do we not have a bit of a track record of signing players who've done the business in Scottish football full stop, only for them to turn out to be duds. Mehdi Taouil and John Sutton being good examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 22 hours ago, jambonian said: Ah, the days before selfishness and greed! If there's one decade could go back in time to it's the eighties. Great European nights for all of Scotland's top five clubs back then. Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Celtic, Hearts, Rangers...good days and brilliant away trips in the league to the wee clubs such as Morton, Dundee, Hibs, Hamilton (when they actually had a football ground), Motherwell, Dunfermline etc. Happy Days! After the suffering 70"s the 80's were glorious but for 7 mins and McGhee's foul on Henry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Voxpop said: yeah, Dundee Utd has us over a barrel then... we were looking at selling bowman or mackay to cover that debt. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19820218&id=s7dAAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yaUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=4420,3378126&hl=en Thanks for posting that, I was about 11 or 12 at the time so wasnt aware of some of the boardroom stuff going on (pre-internet and pre-pub for me so no gossip). If Bowman or Mackay had signed for McLean at that time, they would probably still have a couple of years to run on their contract I thought McKinnon would be a decent player for us too but he seemed to be a lot heavier when he was with us than when he was at well. He was okay but not what I hoped for. I mind in the early/mid 80s they had a goalie that always played well against us. I think his name was Hugh Sproatt and I always wanted us to sign him but if we did, he would probably fail to hit the heights with us. Is it possible that the reason so many players that do well elsewhere struggle with us due to being at a bigger club with a more demanding/critical support? A few have been mentioned on this thread and it cant just be that our coaching or our style of play surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 17 hours ago, Auldbenches said: Even better that pat nevin played for clyde that day with Craig Brown as manager. Yeah I actually remember Nevin playing for thme that day but forgot Brown was their manager. Maybe that's why Nevin became a h1b5 fan! By way, didn't Derek Addison score against us in our 1st game v St Johnstone after he left us? Bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 12 hours ago, Lone Striker said: I think Sandy Clark arrived after Willie P left - could be wrong though. Remember a LC game at Tynecastle in 1983 (midweek) against Rangers - we didn't risk Robbo or Jimmy B since they weren't 100% fit and we were playing them again in the League 3 days later, so Willie P and Derek O'Connor were the strikers in the LC game. Hopeless sums up their performance that night (3-0 defeat) - made more obvious by the return of Robbo and Jimmy B on the Saturday (3-1 win) !! I’m pretty sure Sandy Clark scored a hat-trick for Rangers in the LC game you mention. Clark arrived at Hearts in October 1984 and debuted v Morton at Cappielow. Funnily enough, Pettigrew had played FOR Morton at Tynecastle earlier that season and I’m sure they won 2-1 iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Shaggy2 said: I’m pretty sure Sandy Clark scored a hat-trick for Rangers in the LC game you mention. Clark arrived at Hearts in October 1984 and debuted v Morton at Cappielow. Funnily enough, Pettigrew had played FOR Morton at Tynecastle earlier that season and I’m sure they won 2-1 iirc. Your memory is working quite well (better than mine !!) Just checked on London Hearts - Sandy scored 2 for Rangers, the other is down as an og by Gauld. That game at Cappielow was the first (and possibly only ?) time Clark and Bone played together - 1 of them came on as a sub I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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