Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Here is a video of the quality to be expected from Hearts TV. https://heartstv.heartsfc.co.uk/tv/video/vod/2617 This is the superior broadcast and over 3 minutes of action. Twitter version. Edited September 16, 2020 by Gorgie Boot boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: Here is a video of the quality to be expected from Hearts TV. https://heartstv.heartsfc.co.uk/tv/video/vod/2617 This is the superior broadcast and over 3 minutes of action. Twitter version. Maybe you don't realise how streaming works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54062392 Clubs that will use the Pixellot system Championship: Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Ayr Utd, Dundee, Dunfermline, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Morton, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers. (Hearts already have their own system in place) League One: Airdrieonians, Clyde, Cove Rangers, Dumbarton, Forfar, Montrose, Partick Thistle, Peterhead. (East Fife and Falkirk already have their own system in place) League Two: Albion Rovers, Annan Athletic, Brechin City, Elgin City, Stenhousemuir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, iainmac said: Maybe you don't realise how streaming works? I use OBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 From the statement earlier, Hearts are installing multiple cameras via another company instead. The Pixellot system looks interesting though - https://www.pixellot.tv - especially as every other Championship club will be using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: I use OBS. It doesn't matter what you use. You've posted "picture quality" from the camera end, which could bear absolutely no correlation with what viewers see on their screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, iainmac said: It doesn't matter what you use. You've posted "picture quality" from the camera end, which could bear absolutely no correlation with what viewers see on their screen. That is not my issue though, i can see the quality on the PC and laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, iainmac said: It doesn't matter what you use. You've posted "picture quality" from the camera end, which could bear absolutely no correlation with what viewers see on their screen. Look at it this way, whoever views this thread has an indication of the quality to expect on the device they are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: That is not my issue though, i can see the quality on the PC and laptop. Wind up, surely? Mibbe it's me......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, kila said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54062392 Clubs that will use the Pixellot system Championship: Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Ayr Utd, Dundee, Dunfermline, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Morton, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers. (Hearts already have their own system in place) League One: Airdrieonians, Clyde, Cove Rangers, Dumbarton, Forfar, Montrose, Partick Thistle, Peterhead. (East Fife and Falkirk already have their own system in place) League Two: Albion Rovers, Annan Athletic, Brechin City, Elgin City, Stenhousemuir. Overseas fan, I have experienced other clubs websites for a better viewing experience, Raith rovers streams have always been spot on, zero to little buffering, no issues with Google Apis and always been smooth. Hopefully the company from Livingston are in our rear view for the forseable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: That is not my issue though, i can see the quality on the PC and laptop. I've had Hearts TV for 2 years and had no major issues with picture quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Gorgie Boot boy said: Look at it this way, whoever views this thread has an indication of the quality to expect on the device they are using. OK, thanks for confirming your WUM credentials. You certainly had me going there for a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Pagey said: I've had Hearts TV for 2 years and had no major issues with picture quality. I have had no issues either, then again we have barely had anything to watch on it, that was a whole debate in itself. Hearts TV have sorted out live streams. All i was showing was the quality to expect. I have no idea what it will be like when Live though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, iainmac said: OK, thanks for confirming your WUM credentials. You certainly had me going there for a minute. My what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Seen it 30fps garbage as usual 1080p 50/60 fps from Rugby Park was smooth & crystal clear Live Hearts TV is 720p & stutters, breaks down & buffers - Edited September 16, 2020 by Ricardo Quaresma added more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, iainmac said: OK, thanks for confirming your WUM credentials. You certainly had me going there for a minute. Is this You. Iain MacIain 4 days ago High time to expand HTV to a live platform on pay per view with season ticket holders deemed to have paid already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Would be good to know Hearts reasons for not going with the Pixellot system. They're under pressure to deliver something on par with that given the ST streaming nonsense, otherwise we're being shafted again. Though if Hearts system is yet to be installed and used then hopefully it'll be better than what the usual stream is like. Edited September 16, 2020 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I think we are installing more cameras are we not? I assume it was the limited view angle that you weren’t very impressed with? Actual picture quality looks fine to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: Is this You. Iain MacIain 4 days ago High time to expand HTV to a live platform on pay per view with season ticket holders deemed to have paid already. Close but no cigar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: I think we are installing more cameras are we not? I assume it was the limited view angle that you weren’t very impressed with? Actual picture quality looks fine to me. Looked decent enough to me, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, farin said: Probably cost, the pixellot automation software/cameras can’t be cheap. Read the third post again and see who is using it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Harry Potter said: Looked decent enough to me, Yeah, not seeing the fuss either. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, kila said: Read the third post again and see who is using it Indeed. I seriously doubt we can’t afford a system that those clubs can. Also, the story about it on the website reads like we are using a new system that is better than what we had previously? Or was it just me that read it that way? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, kila said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54062392 Clubs that will use the Pixellot system Championship: Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Ayr Utd, Dundee, Dunfermline, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Morton, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers. (Hearts already have their own system in place) League One: Airdrieonians, Clyde, Cove Rangers, Dumbarton, Forfar, Montrose, Partick Thistle, Peterhead. (East Fife and Falkirk already have their own system in place) League Two: Albion Rovers, Annan Athletic, Brechin City, Elgin City, Stenhousemuir. I have been admiring Pixellot for the last 30 minutes, never heard of them till now . I have never watched a Hearts live TV match, so am looking forward to the games. Pixellot are way out there when it comes to qaulity. I agree that Hearts TV need to get onto it. Pixellot have a great depth to their product. Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, iainmac said: Close but no cigar. Puffing fresh air and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: I have been admiring Pixellot for the last 30 minutes, never heard of them till now . I have never watched a Hearts live TV match, so am looking forward to the games. Pixellot are way out there when it comes to qaulity. I agree that Hearts TV need to get onto it. Pixellot have a great depth to their product. Thank You. “We’re now in a position to confirm, however, that the club will make a substantial investment in the installation of a multi-camera set-up so fans can keep up with all the action on the pitch.“ Reads to me like we have spent a considerable amount of money on making sure we have a top quality system in place. Can’t see us investing a substantial sum of money on something that’s not as good as what Ayr United, Alloa and Arbroath can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Beast Boy said: “We’re now in a position to confirm, however, that the club will make a substantial investment in the installation of a multi-camera set-up so fans can keep up with all the action on the pitch.“ Reads to me like we have spent a considerable amount of money on making sure we have a top quality system in place. Can’t see us investing a substantial sum of money on something that’s not as good as what Ayr United, Alloa and Arbroath can afford. I have no problem with the quality Hearts Tv broadcast, i had a look at Pixellot website. There is a difference of quality. Hearts TV film the training sessions and the quality is excellent. Not sure what is going on but seems everything Hearts do is not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: I have no problem with the quality Hearts Tv broadcast, i had a look at Pixellot website. There is a difference of quality. Hearts TV film the training sessions and the quality is excellent. Not sure what is going on but seems everything Hearts do is not good enough. We are getting new cameras installed though. At substantial cost. Do you think we would be spending a shit tonne of cash on our own system if it wasn’t going to be better than what Alloa can afford? Seems highly unlikely to me tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Beast Boy said: We are getting new cameras installed though. At substantial cost. Do you think we would be spending a shit tonne of cash on our own system if it wasn’t going to be better than what Alloa can afford? Seems highly unlikely to me tbh. Dunno, is the system being installed by Ann Budge's brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: We are getting new cameras installed though. At substantial cost. Do you think we would be spending a shit tonne of cash on our own system if it wasn’t going to be better than what Alloa can afford? Seems highly unlikely to me tbh. No idea why you are asking me that, i have no problem with Hearts TV quality. Again i looked at Pixellot and thought that it is impressive. You inform me that Hearts are upgrading the technology. Happy days, thank you for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, kila said: Dunno, is the system being installed by Ann Budge's brother? Touch paper lit ...............💥 I’m kinda of the opposite opinion to others here. The infrastructure stuff and non-footballing ventures are all top notch these days. I’m expecting something pretty decent in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Gorgie Boot boy said: No idea why you are asking me that, i have no problem with Hearts TV quality. Again i looked at Pixellot and thought that it is impressive. You inform me that Hearts are upgrading the technology. Happy days, thank you for the info. It was just a copy and paste from the news story about our streaming system on our website. No need to get defensive mate, I wasn’t having a pop. Tone doesn’t really convey very well in written word though. Doesn’t seem likely to me that we are investing substantial money in a system that is not as good as the one those teams use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: It was just a copy and paste from the news story about our streaming system on our website. No need to get defensive mate, I wasn’t having a pop. Tone doesn’t really convey very well in written word though. Doesn’t seem likely to me that we are investing substantial money in a system that is not as good as the one those teams use. You are correct , there is no issue here . I agree with the need for the best quality as fans deserve it, i am all for the new Hearts TV. Who knows it may well be the god send i said it would be on other threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: You are correct , there is no issue here . I agree with the need for the best quality as fans deserve it, i am all for the new Hearts TV. Who knows it may well be the god send i said it would be on other threads. Hope so. It could well be utter bobbins, but I’m only going by my interpretation of what I read. I’m just cockahoop that I’m going to get to watch Hearts again soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Beast Boy said: Hope so. It could well be utter bobbins, but I’m only going by my interpretation of what I read. I’m just cockahoop that I’m going to get to watch Hearts again soon. How does the quality of Hearts TV look on your device ?. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: How does the quality of Hearts TV look on your device ?. Thanks Usually just use my ten inch screen from my tablet. The old system was never brilliant, but not enough to put me off using it. I am hoping it’ll be a bit better with the new cameras, otherwise why are we bothering? 🤷♂️ Of course it’s also possible we are just putting in more cameras that aren’t as good quality, but we’ll get to see that poor quality from lots of new angles. 😄 Edited September 16, 2020 by Beast Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 @Gorgie Boot boy apologies, I think I misunderstood some of your comments earlier. You must have wondered what I was on about. I must be tired! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: Usually just use my ten inch screen from my tablet. The old system was never brilliant, but not enough to put me off using it. I am hoping it’ll be a bit better with the new cameras, otherwise why are we bothering? 🤷♂️ Of course it’s also possible we are just putting in more cameras that aren’t as good quality, but we’ll get to see that poor quality from lots of new angles. 😄 I will watch it on the child's smart TV, That is if i manage to stay away from the ground. Some wine gums and buckfast . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: @Gorgie Boot boy apologies, I think I misunderstood some of your comments earlier. You must have wondered what I was on about. I must be tired! 😄 I misunderstand some of my comments, so that is alright . Get some sleep when you can be arsed mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said: I will watch it on the child's smart TV, That is if i manage to stay away from the ground. Some wine gums and buckfast . Breakfast of champions! 💪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, LMc said: Breakfast of champions! 💪 Only time i drink it is when Hearts are playing, need it sometimes to endure the painful experience. Unless you mean wine gums, well they are for champions right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Pixellot is a bargain basement sports production tool. Commonly used in the US for school and amateur sport. It’s basically an unmanned advanced motion sensor system. Very clever tech but it’s not sports coverage as we know it compared to Sky/BBC. Hearts have signed with QTV who are a full service broadcast and production company based in Scotland. They currently provide all of the non-live Premiership coverage for the SPFL (which is basically every match recorded in full as live, although broadcasters such as Sky/BBC then edit their own shortened version from this footage afterwards). That means pro cameras, proper sports lenses, multi angle replays, etc. This is a significant investment from Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, JamboGraham said: Pixellot is a bargain basement sports production tool. Commonly used in the US for school and amateur sport. It’s basically an unmanned advanced motion sensor system. Very clever tech but it’s not sports coverage as we know it compared to Sky/BBC. Hearts have signed with QTV who are a full service broadcast and production company based in Scotland. They currently provide all of the non-live Premiership coverage for the SPFL (which is basically every match recorded in full as live, although broadcasters such as Sky/BBC then edit their own shortened version from this footage afterwards). That means pro cameras, proper sports lenses, multi angle replays, etc. This is a significant investment from Hearts. So if we were still in the Premiership they'd be putting the cameras in there anyway and all Hearts would need to do is to pay them for access? Is this investment from Hearts just for the Championship coverage? Edited September 16, 2020 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, JamboGraham said: Pixellot is a bargain basement sports production tool. Commonly used in the US for school and amateur sport. It’s basically an unmanned advanced motion sensor system. Very clever tech but it’s not sports coverage as we know it compared to Sky/BBC. Hearts have signed with QTV who are a full service broadcast and production company based in Scotland. They currently provide all of the non-live Premiership coverage for the SPFL (which is basically every match recorded in full as live, although broadcasters such as Sky/BBC then edit their own shortened version from this footage afterwards). That means pro cameras, proper sports lenses, multi angle replays, etc. This is a significant investment from Hearts. Thank you for the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I've done enough hunting for this time of night. When is the Thistle game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Someone told me before on another thread, but how do you log in again, under your season ticket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1998 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Paolo said: Someone told me before on another thread, but how do you log in again, under your season ticket? Will it not be the same as logging onto the Hearts ticket system - login is your ST number and then a password. Sure it’s the same for Hearts TV Assuming that any for any new users you’ll need to register and create a password. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, adam1998 said: Will it not be the same as logging onto the Hearts ticket system - login is your ST number and then a password. Sure it’s the same for Hearts TV Assuming that any for any new users you’ll need to register and create a password. Might be. Not sure though, as they are different websites. I do think your customer reference plays a part. Thanks though. I will try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hearts TV is: Username Password You have to register with your address and email. Then you create a username and password. I think the new system will be different though, and will require you to login using your customer reference number from your season ticket. That’s just a guess though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDevriesScores4 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 This thread must be a wind up. The new cameras haven’t even been set up yet and it depends on what you’re watching it on. Another JKB howler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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