Bazzas right boot Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bazman said: I'll be very surprised if he is here come the start of our season. I think he'll be here on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberhill jambo Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 31/07/2020 at 10:23, Jenks said: Pretty sure no player is fit right now. Stupid comment. This was last season. He is shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: I think he'll be here on loan. Depends where he goes. Bologna want him for their first team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, bazman said: Depends where he goes. Bologna want him for their first team Do they really though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Do they really though? Seems a bit imaginative to be total shite. Might be some truth in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Seems a bit imaginative to be total shite. Might be some truth in it. 100% Bologna rumour is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I don’t think we or Hickey benefits much from a loan back now in 2/3s of a Championship season to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robdawg Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 20 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Morrison,Moore,Henderson and Brandon are nowhere near good enough for Hearts. 100% agree with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Brandon has a lot of talent, every time he gets a run he is one of the better performers then gets another injury.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: I don’t think we or Hickey benefits much from a loan back now in 2/3s of a Championship season to be honest. Same. The best move he could make would be somewhere he's got a chance of getting a game at some point over the next season or two. Going to a big club like City then spending a few seasons out on loan would do nothing for him. Of the clubs he's been linked with, Villa would probably be his best move. He'd probably get a few appearances in his first season or two, then maybe become their regular left back. If he cracks on from there then he could end up at a massive club like Tierney is when he's around the same age. Now is the time for us to sell too. We won't miss him a huge amount next season being in the Championship because Garuccio is more than good enough to come in and take his place. We need to take a fee while we can actually get one. Edited August 2, 2020 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Same. The best move he could make would be somewhere he's got a chance of getting a game at some point over the next season or two. Going to a big club like City then spending a few seasons out on loan would do nothing for him. Of the clubs he's been linked with, Villa would probably be his best move. He'd probably get a few appearances in his first season or two, then maybe become their regular left back. If he cracks on from there then he could end up at a massive club like Tierney is when he's around the same age. Now is the time for us to sell too. We won't miss him a huge amount next season being in the Championship because Garuccio is more than good enough to come in and take his place. We need to take a fee while we can actually get one. You're quite correct. When was the last time we actually got a decent transfer fee for anyone? Osman Sow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 21 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Morrison,Moore,Henderson and Brandon are nowhere near good enough for Hearts. I'd happily be proved wrong, but I agree, they are not good enough to play for a club that has aspirations of playing European football. They will however do a job for us in this tinpot league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, David Black said: You're quite correct. When was the last time we actually got a decent transfer fee for anyone? Osman Sow? Did we not get over 400k for Lafferty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloSergio Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Did we not get over 400k for Lafferty? Was it not 650k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 4 hours ago, bazman said: Depends where he goes. Bologna want him for their first team I think him staying here on loan will suit all parties if transfered, unless celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, PauloSergio said: Was it not 650k? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: I think him staying here on loan will suit all parties if transfered, unless celtic. If Celtic bought him they'd probably loan him to Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, martoon said: If Celtic bought him they'd probably loan him to Dundee. Not funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: I don’t think we or Hickey benefits much from a loan back now in 2/3s of a Championship season to be honest. Unsure, unless he's getting more than 25 plus games at his new club. The worst thing would be for him to move and play a handful of times, it's a pattern too many young players follow. Him signing, getting a massive wage increase, back on loan to us is ideal all round. He's 17 and a loan spell gives the lad a season to sort out his personal stuff and mentally adjust while playing as he was. Win/ win. Edited August 2, 2020 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, martoon said: If Celtic bought him they'd probably loan him to Dundee. Just now, davemclaren said: Not funny. True all round 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 hours ago, GinRummy said: Seems a bit imaginative to be total shite. Might be some truth in it. I like that thinking, makes sense. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Did we not get over 400k for Lafferty? Forgot about him, think it was nearer £650000. For once a good bit of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Unsure, unless he's getting more than 25 plus games at his new club. The worst thing would be for him to move and play a handful of times, it's a pattern too many young players follow. Him signing, getting a massive wage increase, back on loan to us is ideal all round. He's 17 and a loan spell gives the lad a season to sort out his personal stuff and mentally adjust while playing as he was. Win/ win. 18 now so able to sign a full-blown long term contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: 18 now so able to sign a full-blown long term contract Point stands, 17/18/19, not about contract Tbh. Edited August 2, 2020 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hickey needs to move on. There is no point in him playing in the Championship. He'd be wasting of a year of improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hickey is brilliant but it's clear he won't be here beyond this season so selling now (not to Celtic ideally) with a whopping sell-on fee should be the aim. He's replaceable at LB for the Champ and I'd prefer to develop another player there instead of have him on loan. He'd be a Ferrari in a stock car race down there and won't progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Hickey needs to move on. There is no point in him playing in the Championship. He'd be wasting of a year of improvement. And any fee would be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: And any fee would be useful. Indeed. Decent fee. Hopefully a big sell on fee too. It's win win for everyone. I'd never want to see one of our laddies held back from becoming better and playing top level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: Point stands, 17/18/19, not about contract Tbh. The delay has been about the contract. Couldn’t sign a real one until 18. Since his birthday there’s been lots of interest and activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: Hickey is brilliant but it's clear he won't be here beyond this season so selling now (not to Celtic ideally) with a whopping sell-on fee should be the aim. He's replaceable at LB for the Champ and I'd prefer to develop another player there instead of have him on loan. He'd be a Ferrari in a stock car race down there and won't progress. Correct and his father will be very aware of that. Now is a better time to make a move than next summer will be. If it’s Celtic he ends up choosing we may get him on loan. Any of the others there’s no chance I’d think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cauther col Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Made money on Igor Rossi apparently 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) so annoyed that our signing policy has been so shit for the last 3 years we have signed so many shit players on 3 year contracts who are a absolutely joke players like Malaury Martin , Conar Sammon, Loic Damour to name just a few ,To make matters worse we have lost or let so many players leave and never got any money for them especially our young players through the academy . Now our best player for years Hickey is going to be leaving us for peanuts really annoyed can imagine him being worth 20 million in 3 years time hope we get a percentage if he gets sold on ,also the fact that we didnt get him signed up over a year ago after the cup final it was plain to see he was going to be a big player Edited August 2, 2020 by wattie exploited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 It was. Whether it still is remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, wattie exploited said: so annoyed that our signing policy has been so shit for the last 3 years we have signed so many shit players on 3 year contracts who are a absolutely joke players like Malaury Martin , Conar Sammon, Loic Damour to name just a few ,To make matters worse we have lost or let so many players leave and never got any money for them especially our young players through the academy . Now our best player for years is going to be leaving us for peanuts really annoyed can imagine him being worth 20 million in 3 years time hope we get a percentage if he gets sold on ,also the fact that we didnt get him signed up over a year ago after the cup final it was plain to see he was going to be a big player Where do we start here. 2 things to narrow it down... 1. New thread? Really? 2. You can't sign players on longterm deals until they're 17 Mods, merge with Hickey thread. Or get rid. Just a suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, TheBigO said: Where do we start here. 2 things to narrow it down... 1. New thread? Really? 2. You can't sign players on longterm deals until they're 17 Mods, merge with Hickey thread. Or get rid. Just a suggestion. its not just about Hickey are you thick ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, wattie exploited said: so annoyed that our signing policy has been so shit for the last 3 years we have signed so many shit players on 3 year contracts who are a absolutely joke players like Malaury Martin , Conar Sammon, Loic Damour to name just a few ,To make matters worse we have lost or let so many players leave and never got any money for them especially our young players through the academy . Now our best player for years Hickey is going to be leaving us for peanuts really annoyed can imagine him being worth 20 million in 3 years time hope we get a percentage if he gets sold on ,also the fact that we didnt get him signed up over a year ago after the cup final it was plain to see he was going to be a big player 😴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, wattie exploited said: so annoyed that our signing policy has been so shit for the last 3 years we have signed so many shit players on 3 year contracts who are a absolutely joke players like Malaury Martin , Conar Sammon, Loic Damour to name just a few ,To make matters worse we have lost or let so many players leave and never got any money for them especially our young players through the academy . Now our best player for years Hickey is going to be leaving us for peanuts really annoyed can imagine him being worth 20 million in 3 years time hope we get a percentage if he gets sold on ,also the fact that we didnt get him signed up over a year ago after the cup final it was plain to see he was going to be a big player There’s nothing we can do about Hickey. Just the way of the world. But yes, our recruitment is unforgivably bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Thanks to the OP. Don't think we had realised......... Not enough face-palms on the whole Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald Villiers Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I don't want it to happen but Hickey needs to move on if he wants to continue making progress. He needs stretched by getting taken out of his comfort zone and put up against the UK's best. He won't develop playing in the Championship. I'd love him to stay for a year though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, Cruyff said: It was. Whether it still is remains to be seen. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Can’t we just wait and see what arrives in the post Levein era before going off on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 It has been done to death on here,the TV,the papers and every level of social media. Everybody is aware we have been utterly atrocious in the recruitment department.Let's what this new era brings in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deevers said: Can’t we just wait and see what arrives in the post Levein era before going off on one. do you think Jim Jefferys will be in charge of people leaving and if we are going to hold out for some money for people like washinton or uche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Topic been done to death ! New start with Robbie and JJ now though so no point going over old ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 “Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Naismith was signed. Boyce looks decent especially for Championship. Souttar unfortunate with injuries. Clare looks like a prospect. Haring back is a game changer for this squad. Craig Gordon should help bring better leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 The last time it wasn't shit was when Neilsonn was gaffer. So quit crowing about the past and stuff every Hearts fan knows and start looking forward. The man who oversaw all of those signings has gone and we still have a CEO who has a track record of backing each manager to the hilt with regards to getting in the players they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Naismith was signed. Boyce looks decent especially for Championship. Souttar unfortunate with injuries. Clare looks like a prospect. Haring back is a game changer for this squad. Craig Gordon should help bring better leadership. All the players you have mentioned are quality. Changes are afoot,hopefully that includes signing players who haven't had career threatening injuries and not kicked a ball for nearly 3 years!! Or handing out 3 and 4 year deals to players that haven't earned it. We are selling ourselfs short imo,we should be scouting young players from all over Europe. Edited August 2, 2020 by Leveins Battalion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Pew pew pew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Naismith was signed. Boyce looks decent especially for Championship. Souttar unfortunate with injuries. Clare looks like a prospect. Haring back is a game changer for this squad. Craig Gordon should help bring better leadership. do you think we can afford Boyce on £6000 a week ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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