LeftBack Posted June 26 Just started a new job as part of a devolved organisation with headquarters in London. Been speaking to a fellow football fan who is a Spurs supporter. Told him I saw Kane's debut in the 5-0 game. But reminded him of the link between the two clubs and sent him this article https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/mar/03/dave-mackay-hearts-scotland-tottenham-derby-ill-health-passed-on Just re-reading it had the hairs on back of neck up - regardless of whether there has been a better player for us - has there been one with more raw passion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EagleJambo Posted June 26 12 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Just started a new job as part of a devolved organisation with headquarters in London. Been speaking to a fellow football fan who is a Spurs supporter. Told him I saw Kane's debut in the 5-0 game. But reminded him of the link between the two clubs and sent him this article https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/mar/03/dave-mackay-hearts-scotland-tottenham-derby-ill-health-passed-on Just re-reading it had the hairs on back of neck up - regardless of whether there has been a better player for us - has there been one with more raw passion? Took my son to the second leg 0-0 draw at White Hart Lane. We were sitting in the Spurs end. Dave Mackay came out at HT if I remember correctly and got a standing ovation from the whole ground. Remember telling my son about him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_jailer Posted June 26 We should have a statue of him outside tynie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seaside jambo Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, the_jailer said: We should have a statue of him outside tynie 100% this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chambie15 Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, Seaside jambo said: 100% this ABSOLUTELY THIS 👆 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypoonJambo Posted June 26 Cant have too many statues at the moment, good excuse for a non distancing get together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted June 26 Met the great man, shook his hand and he signed my programme & cup final ticket. Defo should have a statue. 100% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hectormasson Posted June 26 33 minutes ago, the_jailer said: We should have a statue of him outside tynie Definetly......🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
complete control Posted June 26 Best player ever to play for HMFC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tazio Posted June 26 Football fans always talk about the tough tackling side of his game. Anyone who played with or against him instead always talk about what a great footballer he was. Only 5’7” as well apparently. He looked like a giant on the pitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertDawg Posted June 26 The old man was a big Davie Mackay fan but when it came to the crunch he always said, "Willie Bauld was king of Hearts." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 34 minutes ago, complete control said: Best player ever to play for HMFC. Wouldnt disagree but genuinely interested to know if people think he was also the most passionate. Reading that article again I just thought OMG - imagine if he was still around and we needed a director of football. Or indeed a sweeper! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Findlay Posted June 26 I was at a function where Alan Mullery was a guest speaker. When he heard my Scot's accent he asked where I was from? Edinburgh I told him and he asked me Hearts or Hibs. Hearts I told him again. He answered. You're going to ask me about Dave MacKay? I said aye Alan, how good was he?. Alan answered. First name on the teamsheet and worth two great players. That's how good he was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 Was there not a story that he was co-commentator at a Spurs v Derby game and was asked which was his club. "My club is Hearts son" he growled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 I wonder what might have happened if Cloughie hadnt offered him £15,000 to sign for Derby - when he had already agreed to come back to Hearts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EagleJambo Posted June 26 My brother-in-law is a Derby supporter and he is also revered there. Talking of statues, don't they have one of him there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted June 26 1 hour ago, LeftBack said: Just started a new job as part of a devolved organisation with headquarters in London. Been speaking to a fellow football fan who is a Spurs supporter. Told him I saw Kane's debut in the 5-0 game. But reminded him of the link between the two clubs and sent him this article https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/mar/03/dave-mackay-hearts-scotland-tottenham-derby-ill-health-passed-on Just re-reading it had the hairs on back of neck up - regardless of whether there has been a better player for us - has there been one with more raw passion? My dad was a bit younger than him but knew him from Broomhouse growing up and always thought he was the best Hearts player he ever saw. Alex Ferguson was complimentary about him. https://www.sundaypost.com/opinion/dave-mackay-was-alex-fergusons-first-name-on-his-best-ever-scotland-xi-teamsheet/ ps Kane didn’t play against us in the 5 nil 😜 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, LeftBack said: I wonder what might have happened if Cloughie hadnt offered him £15,000 to sign for Derby - when he had already agreed to come back to Hearts. Indeed, I’ve not watched past that bit in the film yet 😃 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theme From Sparta F.C. Posted June 26 Watching that sent a shiver up my Spine!! As it did at White Hart Lane that night. A true legend of our Club. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SectionDJambo Posted June 26 My dad said that when Hearts sold Dave Mackay, they sold the heart of the team. He was never beaten until time up and made sure the others thought the same. He could easily be considered the best Hearts player of all time. We could have been the first team to win the Scottish treble if we hadn’t sold him. That reception he got at the Spurs v Hearts game in 2011 was marvellous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyBattles Posted June 26 13 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Was there not a story that he was co-commentator at a Spurs v Derby game and was asked which was his club. "My club is Hearts son" he growled. Yeah. He was asked who he was supporting tonight ‘Ah’m a Hearts man son’. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyBattles Posted June 26 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/mar/03/dave-mackay-hearts-scotland-tottenham-derby-ill-health-passed-on Fantastic read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 15 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: My dad was a bit younger than him but knew him from Broomhouse growing up and always thought he was the best Hearts player he ever saw. Alex Ferguson was complimentary about him. https://www.sundaypost.com/opinion/dave-mackay-was-alex-fergusons-first-name-on-his-best-ever-scotland-xi-teamsheet/ ps Kane didn’t play against us in the 5 nil 😜 Thought he came on as sub Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Debut 4 Posted June 26 https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/dave-mackay-one-one How good was the man? When you scroll further down there’s a question about himself and 2 other Spurs teammates who used to do a trick with a coin. Billy McNeill or Denis Law(can’t remember?) told the story of when Scotland went over to play Spain. The Scots watched Spain train at the stadium the night before, they were show boating knowing they had an audience, as if to intimidate the Scotland players. On match day, Dave Mackay ran out for the warm up and deliberately got the attention of the Spain players, and standing on his own in the centre circle, did the said coin trick mentioned in the interview. Scotland won the match 6-2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyBattles Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Thought he came on as sub No. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 17 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Indeed, I’ve not watched past that bit in the film yet 😃 Cloughie's own autobiography said he went to sign him - Mackay said £15,000 wouldnt get me...Cloughie said what about £14,000 and the deal was done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 4 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: No. Look - you may be right. And Ive checked and you are right... but FFS couldnt you have just let it go....😓 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted June 26 6 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Cloughie's own autobiography said he went to sign him - Mackay said £15,000 wouldnt get me...Cloughie said what about £14,000 and the deal was done. They must’ve got on pretty well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 Just now, Pasquale for King said: They must’ve got on pretty well. Ha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted June 26 11 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Thought he came on as sub He must’ve been unfit I think, they had Friediel and Cuducini on the bench 🤷🏾♂️. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyBattles Posted June 26 4 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Look - you may be right. And Ive checked and you are right... but FFS couldnt you have just let it go....😓 that was my only post. Two letters and a full stop. I’m not exactly labouring the point😂 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTJ east whitburn Posted June 26 2 hours ago, the_jailer said: We should have a statue of him outside tynie who do we talk to about making this happen, as this should happen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 21 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: that was my only post. Two letters and a full stop. I’m not exactly labouring the point😂 Two letters and a full stop too far mate. ...only joking! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 25 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: He must’ve been unfit I think, they had Friediel and Cuducini on the bench 🤷🏾♂️. Aye very good. Next thing you will be saying Venables wasnt manager. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted June 26 Just now, LeftBack said: Aye very good. Next thing you will be saying Venables wasnt manager. Hahahahaha 😆😜 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 26 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: He must’ve been unfit I think, they had Friediel and Cuducini on the bench 🤷🏾♂️. But actually that is weird having two keepers as subs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted June 26 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LeftBack said: But actually that is weird having two keepers as subs I only noticed it recently when we were talking about the game on here. Best team I’ve seen against us I think. The crazy thing for me is that they were looking for Kane to go out on loan the next season and a combination of Murray/Locke/Brown picked Paul McCallum instead 😱🤔🙈. Edited June 26 by Pasquale for King Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyBattles Posted June 26 4 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Two letters and a full stop too far mate. ...only joking! Since the thunder and lightning passed, I’ve been in the garden drinking beer. Two letters and a full stop was the best I could nanage😅🥺 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 26 Just now, Pasquale for King said: I only noticed it recently when we were talking about the game on here. Best team I’ve seen against us I think. The crazy thing for me is that they were looking for Kane to go out on loan the next season and a combination of Murray/Locke/Brown picked Paul McCallum instead 😱🤔🙈. Come on son... Are you are hearts fan? Who would you want to be taking a penalty in a semi final.. Kane or... Oh wait.. Fair enough Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoll Posted June 26 4 hours ago, the_jailer said: We should have a statue of him outside tynie And that comment about his ambitions from a youngster inscribed beneath Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finlay James Posted June 26 I genuinely don't believe there has been a British player that people speak so highly of. He was respected in equal measure by fans of all clubs who saw him play and that takes some doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Theme From Sparta F.C. said: Watching that sent a shiver up my Spine!! As it did at White Hart Lane that night. A true legend of our Club. Is that Mark E Smith in your avatar? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwidoug Posted June 26 For a man who lived so much of his life in England, I was bursting with pride when I learned that his wish was for Hearts to organise his funeral. Always Hearts. Statue is a superb idea. Another for Willie Bauld, the unquestioned King of Hearts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parttimer1874 Posted June 26 56 minutes ago, bigcoll said: And that comment about his ambitions from a youngster inscribed beneath Would be absolutely behind this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francis Albert Posted June 26 One of the first things he did when he got to London after signing for Spurs was to buy a Jaguar … second hand presumably because even Spurs players didn't earn that much back then. He had it resprayed maroon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gone Posted June 26 3 hours ago, LeftBack said: But actually that is weird having two keepers as subs They could've swapped a CM for Cudicini and still strolled it. Top side Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maple Leaf Posted June 27 9 hours ago, DesertDawg said: The old man was a big Davie Mackay fan but when it came to the crunch he always said, "Willie Bauld was king of Hearts." Willie Bauld was my hero when I was a teenager, and he was indeed referred to as King Willie by the Hearts masses. There were so many wonderful players in the Hearts of the mid-1950s, and they combined to make the best team in Hearts' history. Davie Mackay was outstanding, a hard-working midfielder who was capable of scoring incredible goals. There have been few like him since. When he was sold to Tottenham, out of the blue, there were near riots in Edinburgh. And he was sold for a paltry 27,000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sassenach Posted June 27 I don't remember Dave Mackay playing, but do I have a very tenuous link to him. Bobby Smith, who played with Mackay at Spurs and scored in the 1961 and 1962 Cup Finals, is from my childhood village. As I said, tenuous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftBack Posted June 27 Just now, sassenach said: I don't remember Dave Mackay playing, but do I have a very tenuous link to him. Bobby Smith, who played with Mackay at Spurs and scored in the 1961 and 1962 Cup Finals, is from my childhood village. As I said, tenuous. Jimmy Greaves always thought Smith was a major reason he scored as many for Spurs. Smith was a bit of a unit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
