Smith's right boot Posted June 22 Yes. We were far more edgey and vulnerable from high balls and set pieces without him. He has a part to play. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted June 23 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: Yes. We were far more edgey and vulnerable from high balls and set pieces without him. He has a part to play. The truth in all honesty is that we probably need two new centerhalfs. Few decent ones out of contract Jimmy Dunne - Burnley Jack Simpson - Bournemouth Murray Wallace - Millwall Ben Heneghen - Sheff Utd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
letsalldothebeattie Posted June 23 Depending on what happens with the squad before the season starts I’d like to believe Souttar & Halkett will be first choice and even if one or both were to move on I’d like to think Neilson would find better options than Berra. I’d happy have Berra as a back up option Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HMFSee Posted June 23 Would imagine we could probably get almost two decent younger players for his wage. So if we can get rid then get rid, he's not essential. If we're stuck with him in the championship though (and not playing a high line) it can't be that bad based on his Dundee time. Only worry would be being stuck with him in the premiership if that happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i8hibsh Posted June 23 10 hours ago, Morgan said: Whatever made you such a bitter person, i8? My mum actually asked this quite recently. She told me I was such a happy child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SIWY1874 Posted June 25 On 22/06/2020 at 12:54, kingantti1874 said: I’d rather we just piss the division.. playing alongside berra would be great for any kid.. Remeber Souttar is badly injured again, and Halkett I believe will be off then we really are in the keek. Souttar will be fit for the start of the season Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-1Jambo Posted June 25 We would never have lost the St Midden game if Berra had played. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roxy Hearts Posted June 25 Seen the big fella in Sainsbury's in Longstone. Looked fit and not limping! 😂 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mundaydog Posted June 25 On 23/06/2020 at 01:56, Cruyff said: The truth in all honesty is that we probably need two new centerhalfs. Few decent ones out of contract Jimmy Dunne - Burnley Jack Simpson - Bournemouth Murray Wallace - Millwall Ben Heneghen - Sheff Utd Would have Jimmy Dunne back in a heartbeat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HillmanHearts Posted June 25 1 hour ago, Mundaydog said: Would have Jimmy Dunne back in a heartbeat Would 100% agree. Not gonna happen tho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wavydavy Posted June 25 2 hours ago, Mundaydog said: Would have Jimmy Dunne back in a heartbeat Was there not talk of him signing for the Sheep? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rooster20 Posted June 26 On 23/06/2020 at 10:56, Cruyff said: The truth in all honesty is that we probably need two new centerhalfs. Few decent ones out of contract Jimmy Dunne - Burnley Jack Simpson - Bournemouth Murray Wallace - Millwall Ben Heneghen - Sheff Utd I'd take any of those tbh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lfhearts Posted June 26 (edited) Think we will be in bargain basement all things considered and only those that fall within budget are likely, especially if Craig Gordon signs as he will demand decent money. Edited June 26 by Lfhearts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Panzee Posted June 26 28 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: Think we will be in bargain basement all things considered and only those that fall within budget are likely, especially if Craig Gordon signs as he will demand decent money. Not sure about that. I think relatively speaking we will have more funds than most. Suspect some clubs are seriously worrying about survival first and foremost- we aren’t. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pans Jambo Posted June 26 On 22/06/2020 at 11:30, Dia Liom said: Yes, if RN wants him back of course. Show Christophe some respect! This. Plus if it pisses off Dundee then all the better IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mellors1874 Posted June 26 15 hours ago, 5-1Jambo said: We would never have lost the St Midden game if Berra had played. we lost the goal beacuse of pace and power don't see how berra would have made a difference to be honest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTT Posted June 26 Dunne would be a solid signing. Be tempted to let Halkett go on loan somewhere for a season to see if he recovers his form/puts himself in the shop window. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTT Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Lfhearts said: Think we will be in bargain basement all things considered and only those that fall within budget are likely, especially if Craig Gordon signs as he will demand decent money. If Gordon demands anything it should be a case of 'thanks but no thanks'. He's 37, zero sell on value and its a bit of nostalgia for a player most Hearts fans would love to see come back who can still offer something at this level. If we tie up thousands in him every week that stops us addressing the rest of the squads issues. Plenty keepers available who would command less. Due to Covid this is very much a buyers market. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-1Jambo Posted June 26 43 minutes ago, mellors1874 said: we lost the goal beacuse of pace and power don't see how berra would have made a difference to be honest We lost most high ball challenges in and around the box. The pattern of the game would gave been different. Just my opinion and we will now never know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnothejambo Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Pans Jambo said: This. Plus if it pisses off Dundee then all the better IMO. These wimps can't afford a pot to piss in so anything than rattles their cage is fine by me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smith's right boot Posted June 26 3 hours ago, Lfhearts said: Think we will be in bargain basement all things considered and only those that fall within budget are likely, especially if Craig Gordon signs as he will demand decent money. We'll still have the 4th or 5th biggest budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smith's right boot Posted June 26 13 hours ago, wavydavy said: Was there not talk of him signing for the Sheep? Aye, then he looked at a map and thought **** that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack D and coke Posted June 26 We want Berra back now aye? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnB Posted June 26 The saying "Distance lends enchantment to the view" couldn't be more apt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Gentleman Posted June 26 1 hour ago, jack D and coke said: We want Berra back now aye? We build for the future by resurrecting the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 26 Berra is woeful a few months at Dundee aren’t going to have eradicated the cart horse in him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottieMac17 Posted June 26 On 23/06/2020 at 01:56, Cruyff said: The truth in all honesty is that we probably need two new centerhalfs. Few decent ones out of contract Jimmy Dunne - Burnley Jack Simpson - Bournemouth Murray Wallace - Millwall Ben Heneghen - Sheff Utd Isn't Murray Wallace a Jambo too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted June 26 Just now, ScottieMac17 said: Isn't Murray Wallace a Jambo too? Could be mate, not sure. I'm sure I've heard that mentioned before though. He's hard a ****. The type of Centerhalf we need. Heneghen is good too. Both of them would be solid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamboNation Posted June 26 (edited) Coming back in with a point to prove having had months to work on his fitness he could be inspired , he deserves a fair chance along with everyone else. Edited June 26 by JamboNation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted June 26 12 minutes ago, ScottieMac17 said: Isn't Murray Wallace a Jambo too? Had a look, he's defo Rangers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack D and coke Posted June 26 2 hours ago, John Gentleman said: We build for the future by resurrecting the past. I’m not sure if it’s just a Hearts thing but our fans are hilarious for wanting to bring players back. Over the hill and absolutely shite ones into the bargain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted June 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, jack D and coke said: I’m not sure if it’s just a Hearts thing but our fans are hilarious for wanting to bring players back. Over the hill and absolutely shite ones into the bargain Probably because, like with hiring ex-players as managers, we've had very good success with it more often than not. Robbo, Colquhoun, McPherson, Naismith (technically twice), Webster, Skacel (twice).. I can't think of many that haven't turned out well. Neil McCann maybe but he had two very bad injuries. Demitri Mitchell coming back didn't work out but he also got injured. When a player gets a club and is a good player even if they are in their latter years, it can make perfect sense. No need to Bring Berra back anyhow. He's still our player. Edited June 26 by ToqueJambo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siphiwe Tshabalala Posted June 26 (edited) Can’t remember who we were playing, but it was prior to Stendel taking over, we got beat at home and he tried to shell it up the park and toe bunged it into the Wheatfield Edited June 26 by Siphiwe Tshabalala Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 26 22 hours ago, 5-1Jambo said: We would never have lost the St Midden game if Berra had played. Is that right Mystic Meg? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan Posted June 26 On 23/06/2020 at 10:06, i8hibsh said: My mum actually asked this quite recently. She told me I was such a happy child. Och well, I suppose we all change as we age. Not doubting your dear old mum like, but you were a happy child? 🤷🏿♂️ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lfhearts Posted June 26 3 hours ago, Cruyff said: Could be mate, not sure. I'm sure I've heard that mentioned before though. He's hard a ****. The type of Centerhalf we need. Heneghen is good too. Both of them would be solid. You talk some guff, Wallace is a left back who can cover at centre half, but hard not really, has a great engine and I have watched him a few times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted June 26 13 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: You talk some guff, Wallace is a left back who can cover at centre half, but hard not really, has a great engine and I have watched him a few times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GinRummy Posted June 26 23 hours ago, 5-1Jambo said: We would never have lost the St Midden game if Berra had played. What about all the other games he helped us lose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lfhearts Posted June 26 Berra if fit will be back at centre half hopefully with Soapy beside him, Halkett a sub Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lfhearts Posted June 26 4 hours ago, Cruyff said: Could be mate, not sure. I'm sure I've heard that mentioned before though. He's hard a ****. The type of Centerhalf we need. Heneghen is good too. Both of them would be solid. Jordibaws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clerry Jambo Posted June 26 1 minute ago, Lfhearts said: Berra if fit will be back at centre half hopefully with Soapy beside him, Halkett a sub I hope we have all 3 available Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted June 26 Just now, Lfhearts said: Jordibaws. Clueless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTT Posted June 26 Heneghen interests me. Seem to recall him being at Motherwell. There's a real need to move a lot of our current squad out and bring in real leaders. There have been so many moments this season where players had a chance to be counted and were found wanting each time. I think how bad we were at the back largely lies at the feet of Joel Pererira who has absolutely no right to be at a club the size of Man Utd. (hell even us, the guy is terrible and his name is bloody irritating AF to spell). I'd like to really cut this squad down to the absolute bare minimum. Out: Doyle, Bobby, Damour, Uche, Garuccio, Wighton, White and probably Halkett & Washington too. Who we actually bring in is another kettle of fish though. There are a lot of decent players available right now, Andy Halliday would be a great signing for us IMO, he's got everything you need in this league but seems to have been quoted as unwilling to play for another Scottish club. Still, put a contract down. Be silly to turn down a reasonable offer in this climate. Fully expect to get stick for suggesting him, but he's got a bit of dig to his game which I really like. Lee Wallace is someone I'd like us to go for. Alongside Craig Gordon. It might start to look like the 2007 team but he'd be excellent cover for Hickey and is a real leader from Halliday's interview with Si Ferry. Considering our piss poor luck in LB's we could do so much worse. He's barely playing at QPR so would be a solid signing and could replace both White and Garuccio. Ethan Hamilton appears to have been highly rated too, so would be interesting to see if we could tempt him to come back to Scotland. Only 23 so heaps of potential if he gets his head down and moves for game time. Jimmy Dunne, I'd love to see us sign too. His performances were first class when he came in and was gutted Ross snaked him in January. Robbie will have his own ideas, I just hope he's successful in shifting these impostors on. This situation falls on them and I don't think the fans can forgive them for the situation they've put our club into. We shouldn't ever have been in a relegation spot, but they couldn't man the **** up and beat the shite in this league. Mentally weak tosspots with no right to ever wear the jersey again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimCornette Posted June 26 Those last few years his game deteriorated something awful. Single handedly at fault for goal after goal after goal. But at the shite level we'll be playing at he might be an option since we're paying him absolute fortunes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted June 26 15 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: Berra if fit will be back at centre half hopefully with Soapy beside him, Halkett a sub Even paddy power wouldn’t take a bet on these two ever playing together again. Ones finished and the other can barely string ten games together without injuring a different part of his body. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTT Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, JimCornette said: Those last few years his game deteriorated something awful. Single handedly at fault for goal after goal after goal. But at the shite level we'll be playing at he might be an option since we're paying him absolute fortunes. Assuming our challenge fails and we are playing Championship football next season, Berra would do. Attracting decent players is hard enough, so to be doing that in that league is impossible. Good thing is we have a shit ton of kids who are all at a decent age now to stake a claim at that level. Irving, Cochrane, McDonald, Hickey*, Brandon, Moore, Henderson plus Connor Smith & Hamilton and then Logan. All in the 21 and under category bar Brandon (I think?) so a real opportunity to get a full season playing teams we should beat in a league we should win in front of big crowds at Tynie (assuming people are allowed back obv). Could be that its a case of getting rid of as many 1st teamers as possible to clear the decks and bring in a few older leaders to help steer the ship and trust the kids to get us up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted June 26 If he's managed to recover his full fitness and confidence, yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mitch41 Posted June 26 On 23/06/2020 at 01:56, Cruyff said: The truth in all honesty is that we probably need two new centerhalfs. Few decent ones out of contract Jimmy Dunne - Burnley Jack Simpson - Bournemouth Murray Wallace - Millwall Ben Heneghen - Sheff Utd Definitely 2 good centre backs to add to the Squad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 26 11 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: If he's managed to recover his full fitness and confidence, yes. Jesus pal, he is ****ing god awful. Are they any corpses with Hearts connections we could dig up? Give them a bash for old time’s sake? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted June 26 18 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Jesus pal, he is ****ing god awful. Are they any corpses with Hearts connections we could dig up? Give them a bash for old time’s sake? Seemed to do fine on loan for Dundee in the championship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
