JJ93 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Today's result is less than impressive and serious questions have to be asked about why are are conceding so many goals. That aside, we are three points from 10th. St Mirren have a game in hand after their game against Motherwell was postponed today so their next game is at home to US on Friday 21st Feb. Hamilton's next game is against Motherwell at home. Three points off 10th. Plus we play all the bottom sides after the split. It isn't anywhere near over yet so stop being so pessimistic. I was like that then I sobered up. These players need to be shot - as does Levein etc - but to say it is a foregone conclusion that we are going down when we are only three points from safety is silly. Keep the faith. Let's hope we survive then we can get rid of all the sh*t - including in the Boardroom, regretably in one case at least - next season. Edited February 15, 2020 by JJ93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uche Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 We also for a period of over a year just now have been the worst team in the league. Wind the results back 1 year and we are rock bottom. People need to wake the **** up and realise we have been the poorest team in the division for over a year now and show no signs of improving. We are fighting seasoned relegation battle experts at the moment with a disinterested team who must be losing faith in DS by the minute given our inability to conjure up any kind of a result. We are in dire straits and drastic measures are needed now. Sorry to rant, it is just a really really **** position. Hate Craig Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Playoff at best I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.hmfc. Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Staying up is the only aim, at this point I couldn’t care if we scrape it by a point or need to win the playoff as long as staying up is the end result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brawlad74 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Would bite your hand off for play off spot right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Uche said: We also for a period of over a year just now have been the worst team in the league. Wind the results back 1 year and we are rock bottom. People need to wake the **** up and realise we have been the poorest team in the division for over a year now and show no signs of improving. We are fighting seasoned relegation battle experts at the moment with a disinterested team who must be losing faith in DS by the minute given our inability to conjure up any kind of a result. We are in dire straits and drastic measures are needed now. Sorry to rant, it is just a really really **** position. Hate Craig Levein. Agree with this. He has screwed us totally with the help of Mrs Budge being asleep at the wheel Edited February 15, 2020 by HMFC 86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Uche said: We also for a period of over a year just now have been the worst team in the league. Wind the results back 1 year and we are rock bottom. People need to wake the **** up and realise we have been the poorest team in the division for over a year now and show no signs of improving. We are fighting seasoned relegation battle experts at the moment with a disinterested team who must be losing faith in DS by the minute given our inability to conjure up any kind of a result. We are in dire straits and drastic measures are needed now. Sorry to rant, it is just a really really **** position. Hate Craig Levein. Hate is a thing, a feeling, that can only exist where there is no understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 There is fight in the team but we concede soft goals far too often to give ourselves an even chance. If Hamilton had kept 11 on the pitch, their goal threat would have been stronger than ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 We've racked up 19 points in the last 27 games. What makes anybody think we are going to start going on a winning streak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Through nothing but good fortune it isn’t five points. Hamilton are simply a better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, Morgan said: Hate is a thing, a feeling, that can only exist where there is no understanding. You're very philosophical today, Morgan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiSkacelsLeftPeg Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Tactically we are a shambles. All over the place. We don’t stand a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, redjambo said: You're very philosophical today, Morgan. I'm not a big fan of the word 'hate' is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Morgan said: Hate is a thing, a feeling, that can only exist where there is no understanding. Well that is utter nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Morgan said: I'm not a big fan of the word 'hate' is all. An admirable stance. How do you feel about the Hobos though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, JJ93 said: Well that is utter nonsense. I hate the word 'nonsense'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, redjambo said: An admirable stance. How do you feel about the Hobos though? Hate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, Morgan said: Hate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uche Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Morgan said: Hate is a thing, a feeling, that can only exist where there is no understanding. You are right 😂 sorry, an angry post in an angry moment. It is just a game after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Uche said: You are right 😂 sorry, an angry post in an angry moment. It is just a game after all! Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGoodLaugh Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Of course it's not a forgone conclusion, but how long have we been saying "just a few points, just a couple of good results"? And personally I find it scant comfort indeed that we get to play Hamilton (and other bottom six teams) again, considering we've now taken 2 points from 3 matches against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uche Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, Morgan said: Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I was genuine - i.e. I was being a ***** 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, Uche said: I was genuine - i.e. I was being a ***** 😂 Fair enough, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Cade said: We've racked up 19 points in the last 27 games. What makes anybody think we are going to start going on a winning streak? This. We keep saying we'll pick up then we fail to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, Jambof3tornado said: This. We keep saying we'll pick up then we fail to do so Very true bud, but i left today happy with a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown1982 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Admire your optimism and half of me agrees with you. However as soon as our next game kicks off I get that sinking feeling again and it all starts going pear shaped my worst fears are confirmed time and time again. It will take hard fought battling performances to get out of this and I keep waiting and waiting. How bad does it have to get before these players turn up?? That game was as big as it gets today against our closest relegation candidates and we are 2 down after 16 minutes or so????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salvo69 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Confidence is obviously shot to pieces and the CL legacy is deep rooted. We have players with the calibre to get out of this mess and I would expect playing in the bottom six will show that. The biggest frustration for me is that they can clearly play at a high level but struggle to do this consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsjambo Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, JJ93 said: Today's result is less than impressive and serious questions have to be asked about why are are conceding so many goals. That aside, we are three points from 10th. St Mirren have a game in hand after their game against Motherwell was postponed today so their next game is at home to US on Friday 21st Feb. Hamilton's next game is against Motherwell at home. Three points off 10th. Plus we play all the bottom sides after the split. It isn't anywhere near over yet so stop being so pessimistic. I was like that then I sobered up. These players need to be shot - as does Levein etc - but to say it is a foregone conclusion that we are going down when we are only three points from safety is silly. Keep the faith. Let's hope we survive then we can get rid of all the sh*t - including in the Boardroom, regretably in one case at least - next season. We’re losing goals because of the way the manager sets the team up, he has both full backs bombing up at the same time leaving us exposed to long balls in behind all the time, he has taken far too long to drop the goalie and he persists with Clare at RB who will never be a defender if he plays until he’s 90. The new manager’s record is one win in eleven matches with little sign it will get better as it’s relegation form. That’s why we will go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 This mentality will see us relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 We're ****ing shite. It's not being pessimistic to say we're going to get relegated. It's a fair and reasonable assessment based on a year's worth of evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I don't even pretend to know what's caused this but to be light years behind Livingston is totally unacceptable. All we can hope is that the players and coaches will fight to the death to keep us up. I foolishly thought that we would have been well clear of relegation by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, JJ93 said: Today's result is less than impressive and serious questions have to be asked about why are are conceding so many goals. That aside, we are three points from 10th. St Mirren have a game in hand after their game against Motherwell was postponed today so their next game is at home to US on Friday 21st Feb. Hamilton's next game is against Motherwell at home. Three points off 10th. Plus we play all the bottom sides after the split. It isn't anywhere near over yet so stop being so pessimistic. I was like that then I sobered up. These players need to be shot - as does Levein etc - but to say it is a foregone conclusion that we are going down when we are only three points from safety is silly. Keep the faith. Let's hope we survive then we can get rid of all the sh*t - including in the Boardroom, regretably in one case at least - next season. The question is when are we going to start playing our best defenders in defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Machine Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Not going down. Blood, sweat, tears and snotters, we will get enough points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JJ93 said: Today's result is less than impressive and serious questions have to be asked about why are are conceding so many goals. That aside, we are three points from 10th. St Mirren have a game in hand after their game against Motherwell was postponed today so their next game is at home to US on Friday 21st Feb. Hamilton's next game is against Motherwell at home. Three points off 10th. Plus we play all the bottom sides after the split. It isn't anywhere near over yet so stop being so pessimistic. I was like that then I sobered up. These players need to be shot - as does Levein etc - but to say it is a foregone conclusion that we are going down when we are only three points from safety is silly. Keep the faith. Let's hope we survive then we can get rid of all the sh*t - including in the Boardroom, regretably in one case at least - next season. It's four points with our honking goal difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hearts Machine said: Not going down. Blood, sweat, tears and snotters, we will get enough points. Its like people have missed the last 18months... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 If history repeats itself and we do go down, then the Flumps are coming with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambali Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Uche said: We also for a period of over a year just now have been the worst team in the league. Wind the results back 1 year and we are rock bottom. People need to wake the **** up and realise we have been the poorest team in the division for over a year now and show no signs of improving. We are fighting seasoned relegation battle experts at the moment with a disinterested team who must be losing faith in DS by the minute given our inability to conjure up any kind of a result. We are in dire straits and drastic measures are needed now. Sorry to rant, it is just a really really **** position. Hate Craig Levein. ...and unbelievably he's still here! MUST GO NOW!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 A win on Friday and we are = tenth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Title of this thread states 3 points from safety. That's true for sure but so is the fact we have now conceded 13 goals in our last 4 league games whilst scoring 7. I wasnt there today but 2-0 down in 1st 20mins...had they not had a man sent off would we have even got a draw? We cant seem to take the lead in games and, whilst we have to play the teams around us after the split, I'm not convinced we can get out of this now. Hope I'm wrong though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, hmfcbilly said: Title of this thread states 3 points from safety. That's true for sure but so is the fact we have now conceded 13 goals in our last 4 league games whilst scoring 7. I wasnt there today but 2-0 down in 1st 20mins...had they not had a man sent off would we have even got a draw? We cant seem to take the lead in games and, whilst we have to play the teams around us after the split, I'm not convinced we can get out of this now. Hope I'm wrong though! Our defence and goalkeeping shambles is killing us and it's hard to see it changing tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, hmfcbilly said: Title of this thread states 3 points from safety. That's true for sure but so is the fact we have now conceded 13 goals in our last 4 league games whilst scoring 7. I wasnt there today but 2-0 down in 1st 20mins...had they not had a man sent off would we have even got a draw? We cant seem to take the lead in games and, whilst we have to play the teams around us after the split, I'm not convinced we can get out of this now. Hope I'm wrong though! To be fair we have lost by plenty from the tic at home never mind darkheid... take that 5 away and we are a goal down. I don't like it anymore than you do but if Levein was still at the helm it would probably 0 goals for and 13 against Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, jock _turd said: To be fair we have lost by plenty from the tic at home never mind darkheid... take that 5 away and we are a goal down. I don't like it anymore than you do but if Levein was still at the helm it would probably 0 goals for and 13 against I get your point mate but we have still conceded 8 goals to 3 of our bottom 6 rivals. The games are running out and we really need to start winning otherwise I fear the heads of the players will go before the season is out. You're right about the 0 goals under levein mind you 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 We are so bad defensively that we need 2 or 3 goals just to grab a draw and that just won't happen in the long run.We need to tighten up it's the same shit happening from game to game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Our defence and goalkeeping shambles is killing us and it's hard to see it changing tbh. I agree with you 100% on this. Today was a massive chance to make a statement and fact is we scraped a draw at home against 10 men hamilton. It really is fasten our seatbelts for the bumpy ride ahead until the season is over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, Gambo said: A win on Friday and we are = tenth. We going to win by more than 4 aye ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Failure to do the basics, forget about the system for a second. This failure to do the basics will see us relegated. Knocking the ball out for a corner in added on time. Taking three passes to get the ball to either wing. The needless fouls that suck the life out our play. Misplaced passes. Lack of any positional sense. Hitting the target. Forget about the complex recruitments of playing a high press, we can’t do the bare minimum basics. We score the equaliser from a nice passing move, getting the ball out wide quickly. We score, have 8 minutes or so to score a winner. We then revert to just passive side by side passes. Our management of the last 6 or 7 minutes was nothing short of embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Never give up till it’s mathematically impossible but I think we’re going down. Even if we make the playoffs I can see this team not having enough to do the job. I hope I’m wrong but I can’t help but feel relegation is inevitable at this point 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: Never give up till it’s mathematically impossible but I think we’re going down. Even if we make the playoffs I can see this team not having enough to do the job. I hope I’m wrong but I can’t help but feel relegation is inevitable at this point 😢 It’s not inevitable but we are running out of games to turn this corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: I don't even pretend to know what's caused this but to be light years behind Livingston is totally unacceptable. All we can hope is that the players and coaches will fight to the death to keep us up. I foolishly thought that we would have been well clear of relegation by now. @Kiwidoug I'm with you on all three points. Two weeks ago I was optimistic that our performances at Tynecastle would be enough to pull us clear of any relegation battle. After the Killie game, and now Hamilton, my optimism has evaporated. We are in a dog fight, and might not have the players to survive in the Premier league. What a shambles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiSkacelsLeftPeg Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Gambo said: A win on Friday and we are = tenth. We would be 11th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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