BackOfTheNet Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Now that the transfer window is closed we can get back to the on pitch matters! February could be a really good month for us potentially, with 4 of the 5 league games very winnable and a cup game against lower league opposition. Out of curiosity I thought I’d look not only at our next 5 fixtures, but of the other teams as well and then look at the table. Currently the table looks like this: 1. Celtic 61 2. Rangers 56 3. Motherwell 41 4. Aberdeen 37 5. Livingston 31 6. Hibernian 29 7. Kilmarnock 23 8. St. Johnstone 23 9. Ross County 22 10. St. Mirren 20 11. Hamilton 18 12. Hearts 17 Our next 5 league fixtures look like this: St. Johnstone v Hearts Hearts v Kilmarnock Celtic v Hearts Hearts v Hamilton St. Mirren v Hearts Looking at those fixtures an optimist would say 12 points is very doable. Celtic is the game which will for obvious reasons be likely out of reach for points. As the Ross County game shows just because we can beat a team doesn’t mean we will. But realistically 4 wins out 5 is doable. That’s not me getting ahead of myself, I’m very aware I may need to curb my enthusiasm, games against those teams are very winnable. So, what if we do gain 12 out of 15 points, where could we be in the table come the end of February as we go into the derby match at Easter Road. I’ve had a wee gander at the upcoming fixtures for the other teams too and after a few win/lose/draw predictions, this is something what I think the table will look like: PREDICTED TABLE BY END OF FEBRUARY: 1. Celtic 76 2. Rangers 71 3. Motherwell 49 4. Aberdeen 46 5. Hibernian 39 6. Livingston 35 7. Hearts 29 8. Kilmarnock 25 9. St. Johnstone 25 10. Ross County 25 11. St. Mirren 21 12. Hamilton 20 As I’ve stated this is merely a prediction. We may not get 12 points or close to it, time will tell. Point I’m making is we could and even to a lesser extent should get that many points. Obviously there’s room for manoeuvre too, like the cluster of St. Johnstone, County and Kilmarnock, they could end up completely different. Livingston/Hibs and Aberdeen/Motherwell may switch around too. Apologies for the long post. Just wanted to see what things could potentially look like if we keep up the good work. From being bottom now to 7th in the space of 5 games seems a task, but it’s achievable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Exactly what I think. Hopefully even closer to 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 12 is very achievable but think we need to keep our feet on the ground a little and remember how much work DS has had to do, and still has to do getting this new team to jel. If Avidjij turns out to be as class as we hope and Boyce continues to find the net then that will go a long long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, E6 Inc said: 12 is very achievable but think we need to keep our feet on the ground a little and remember how much work DS has had to do, and still has to do getting this new team to jel. If Avidjij turns out to be as class as we hope and Boyce continues to find the net then that will go a long long way. Completely understandable that feet should be firmly on the ground. As I say in the original post, we may be nowhere near 12 points but the point is that 12 points is very achievable. Even before Stendel with the squad we had and budget we have we should be expecting to beat those teams anyway. But although we’re expected to beat doesn’t mean we will. Today will be a true test of how far we come, how the pressing game works against more defensive sides and away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 or 4 wins would be acceptable. Celtic apart we can't really afford to get beat due to the positions of the other teams in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 12 is possible but I feel we will draw against killie. Also feel we will be a lot closer to the shite than the OP predicts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part_time_jambo Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, BackOfTheNet said: Now that the transfer window is closed we can get back to the on pitch matters! February could be a really good month for us potentially, with 4 of the 5 league games very winnable and a cup game against lower league opposition. Out of curiosity I thought I’d look not only at our next 5 fixtures, but of the other teams as well and then look at the table. Currently the table looks like this: 1. Celtic 61 2. Rangers 56 3. Motherwell 41 4. Aberdeen 37 5. Livingston 31 6. Hibernian 29 7. Kilmarnock 23 8. St. Johnstone 23 9. Ross County 22 10. St. Mirren 20 11. Hamilton 18 12. Hearts 17 Our next 5 league fixtures look like this: St. Johnstone v Hearts Hearts v Kilmarnock Celtic v Hearts Hearts v Hamilton St. Mirren v Hearts Looking at those fixtures an optimist would say 12 points is very doable. Celtic is the game which will for obvious reasons be likely out of reach for points. As the Ross County game shows just because we can beat a team doesn’t mean we will. But realistically 4 wins out 5 is doable. That’s not me getting ahead of myself, I’m very aware I may need to curb my enthusiasm, games against those teams are very winnable. So, what if we do gain 12 out of 15 points, where could we be in the table come the end of February as we go into the derby match at Easter Road. I’ve had a wee gander at the upcoming fixtures for the other teams too and after a few win/lose/draw predictions, this is something what I think the table will look like: PREDICTED TABLE BY END OF FEBRUARY: 1. Celtic 76 2. Rangers 71 3. Motherwell 49 4. Aberdeen 46 5. Hibernian 39 6. Livingston 35 7. Hearts 29 8. Kilmarnock 25 9. St. Johnstone 25 10. Ross County 25 11. St. Mirren 21 12. Hamilton 20 As I’ve stated this is merely a prediction. We may not get 12 points or close to it, time will tell. Point I’m making is we could and even to a lesser extent should get that many points. Obviously there’s room for manoeuvre too, like the cluster of St. Johnstone, County and Kilmarnock, they could end up completely different. Livingston/Hibs and Aberdeen/Motherwell may switch around too. Apologies for the long post. Just wanted to see what things could potentially look like if we keep up the good work. From being bottom now to 7th in the space of 5 games seems a task, but it’s achievable! I don't see the point of playing these games in February, as we now know what the table will look like. Just give all the teams a rest until March. In fact get the OP to post the final table and end the season now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, BackOfTheNet said: Completely understandable that feet should be firmly on the ground. As I say in the original post, we may be nowhere near 12 points but the point is that 12 points is very achievable. Even before Stendel with the squad we had and budget we have we should be expecting to beat those teams anyway. But although we’re expected to beat doesn’t mean we will. Today will be a true test of how far we come, how the pressing game works against more defensive sides and away from home. Today will tell us a lot. Beating Rangers was amazing but breaking a team down only intent on hitting us on the counter will be a different challenge. Get an early goal and theyll have to come onto us and think we'd end up putting a few past them. 3-0 Hearts, Boyce, Avidjij and Washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 10 points from those games feels more realistic. Improving the away form is a longer term goal for me, the key to survival and potential 6th/7th Place finish will come from us remaining unbeaten at home for the remainder of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: 10 points from those games feels more realistic. Improving the away form is a longer term goal for me, the key to survival and potential 6th/7th Place finish will come from us remaining unbeaten at home for the remainder of the season. Certainly. Survival is the goal at the moment, but if we find ourselves anywhere like 7th/8th by end of February we should start using the remaining games as a springboard for the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Excited about seeing stendel setting up a team that won’t piss it’s pants when we travel to Celtic. i think 3 or 4 wins out of those 5 fixtures is achievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal Kingston Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I think 2 wins, 2 draws and a defeat would be more realistic and a great return given our position Our away form is murder. Win the home games, don’t get beat away and a free hit at Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Delta Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I know it's totally stupid to base things on one game, but the Rangers game really felt like such a turning point in terms to atmosphere in the stadium, within the squad and of course the performance itself. If we can replicate anywhere close to that we should be looking at 12 points. Maintaining that kind of intensity in every game probably isn't achievable, but Stendel seems pretty clear and demanding with what he expects, so pretty confident that we'll be a few points clear of the bottom of the table by the end of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, Irufushi said: Excited about seeing stendel setting up a team that won’t piss it’s pants when we travel to Celtic. i think 3 or 4 wins out of those 5 fixtures is achievable. Very much this. A manager and a few new players who don’t give a crap who Celtic are will be interesting to see. In many ways that fixture with no pressure will perhaps be easier potential for points than say, today where on paper and by budget we should win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getintaethem Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 We need to prove we can win games on the road before dreaming of what might be. Today is a huge test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Would rather wait and see what happens today, we have a problem winning away against all teams, if it was a dry sunny day perfect but its not, good thing is if its not going our way bench is strong as its ever been for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, E6 Inc said: Today will tell us a lot. Beating Rangers was amazing but breaking a team down only intent on hitting us on the counter will be a different challenge. Get an early goal and theyll have to come onto us and think we'd end up putting a few past them. 3-0 Hearts, Boyce, Avidjij and Washington It is against teams like st Johnstone that are the true proof of how we have improved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, milky_26 said: It is against teams like st Johnstone that are the true proof of how we have improved Correct. Today will be a good barometer of where we are heading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Irufushi said: Excited about seeing stendel setting up a team that won’t piss it’s pants when we travel to Celtic. i think 3 or 4 wins out of those 5 fixtures is achievable. Sorry mate I’ve watched Hearts for 50 years and I’ve seen far better Hearts teams than this wet there pants at Parkhead Re the other fixtures...agree, totally winnable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, jbee647 said: Sorry mate I’ve watched Hearts for 50 years and I’ve seen far better Hearts teams than this wet there pants at Parkhead Re the other fixtures...agree, totally winnable. what I’m saying is I don’t imagine stendel will set up to camp in our own half for the whole game. I believe he’ll have a go . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Today’s game is difficult to call but do think that we can get a win. Killie are in freefall at the moment and definitely fancy our chances against them and Hamilton. Celtic is like Rangers, a free hit. The banana skin for me is St Midden. They say in and made it difficult at Ibrox and did OK against the Mutton Molesters. 8 or 10 points from the 5 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 10-12 points should be our target from those games. Any more than that will be a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 game at a time please!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Getintaethem said: We need to prove we can win games on the road before dreaming of what might be. Today is a huge test. Agreed this is a huge test. And for clarification sake I wasn’t necessarily “dreaming of what might be”, was more painting a picture of a team of our stature, squad quality and wage bill should be winning those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Lfhearts said: Would rather wait and see what happens today, we have a problem winning away against all teams, if it was a dry sunny day perfect but its not, good thing is if its not going our way bench is strong as its ever been for a long time. Eh? Don’t want to speak too soon, but it’s mild and quite sunny in Perth just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said: Looking at those fixtures an optimist would say 12 points is very doable. Winning five league games out of six doesn't often happen. We can dream though. Edited February 1, 2020 by 4marsbars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 That's good news re weather down here in Edinburgh its very windy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, 4marsbars said: Winning five league games out of six doesn't often happen. We can dream though. 12 points is four wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, iantjambo said: 12 points is four wins. Think they mean including the Rangers game. Which would be true, of course, Rangers included if we were to win every game bar Celtic it would be 5 wins out of 6 when we’ve only won two all season. Saying that, as people have mentioned on this thread it’s better to take one game at a time, which I’m sure the management and players are doing, I’m just looking to potential in the future and each game on their own merit should be classed as very winnable apart from Celtic. We’ll see though, starting today. We all may be brought down back to earth after last week, who knows. Edited February 1, 2020 by BackOfTheNet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: That's good news re weather down here in Edinburgh its very windy. Update: P***ing rain in Perth now ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, iantjambo said: 12 points is four wins. You forgotten last week's game already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Think they mean including the Rangers game. Which would be true, of course, Rangers included if we were to win every game bar Celtic it would be 5 wins out of 6 when we’ve only won two all season. Saying that, as people have mentioned on this thread it’s better to take one game at a time, which I’m sure the management and players are doing, I’m just looking to potential in the future and each game on their own merit should be classed as very winnable apart from Celtic. We’ll see though, starting today. We all may be brought down back to earth after last week, who knows. 12 minutes ago, 4marsbars said: You forgotten last week's game already? Of course I apologise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, iantjambo said: Of course I apologise you are becoming the living embodiment of your profile picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, milky_26 said: you are becoming the living embodiment of your profile picture I can think of worse people to be than Ralph Wiggum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Regal Kingston said: I think 2 wins, 2 draws and a defeat would be more realistic and a great return given our position Our away form is murder. Win the home games, don’t get beat away and a free hit at Celtic Agreed. 8 points would be a decent return from those game. Could be wrong but I doubt we are suddenly going to start winning regularly away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, iantjambo said: Of course I apologise Not to worry. I'm a one-game-at-a-time sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Getintaethem said: We need to prove we can win games on the road before dreaming of what might be. Today is a huge test. Very much so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory McNamara Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 8 points and additional win at Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Today was a wake up call. No team in the bottom half is going to lie down to us. We are in a battle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Exactly Cruikie any point away from home is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimCornette Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 01/02/2020 at 06:25, BackOfTheNet said: Now that the transfer window is closed we can get back to the on pitch matters! February could be a really good month for us potentially, with 4 of the 5 league games very winnable and a cup game against lower league opposition. Out of curiosity I thought I’d look not only at our next 5 fixtures, but of the other teams as well and then look at the table. Currently the table looks like this: 1. Celtic 61 2. Rangers 56 3. Motherwell 41 4. Aberdeen 37 5. Livingston 31 6. Hibernian 29 7. Kilmarnock 23 8. St. Johnstone 23 9. Ross County 22 10. St. Mirren 20 11. Hamilton 18 12. Hearts 17 Our next 5 league fixtures look like this: St. Johnstone v Hearts Hearts v Kilmarnock Celtic v Hearts Hearts v Hamilton St. Mirren v Hearts Looking at those fixtures an optimist would say 12 points is very doable. Celtic is the game which will for obvious reasons be likely out of reach for points. As the Ross County game shows just because we can beat a team doesn’t mean we will. But realistically 4 wins out 5 is doable. That’s not me getting ahead of myself, I’m very aware I may need to curb my enthusiasm, games against those teams are very winnable. So, what if we do gain 12 out of 15 points, where could we be in the table come the end of February as we go into the derby match at Easter Road. I’ve had a wee gander at the upcoming fixtures for the other teams too and after a few win/lose/draw predictions, this is something what I think the table will look like: PREDICTED TABLE BY END OF FEBRUARY: 1. Celtic 76 2. Rangers 71 3. Motherwell 49 4. Aberdeen 46 5. Hibernian 39 6. Livingston 35 7. Hearts 29 8. Kilmarnock 25 9. St. Johnstone 25 10. Ross County 25 11. St. Mirren 21 12. Hamilton 20 As I’ve stated this is merely a prediction. We may not get 12 points or close to it, time will tell. Point I’m making is we could and even to a lesser extent should get that many points. Obviously there’s room for manoeuvre too, like the cluster of St. Johnstone, County and Kilmarnock, they could end up completely different. Livingston/Hibs and Aberdeen/Motherwell may switch around too. Apologies for the long post. Just wanted to see what things could potentially look like if we keep up the good work. From being bottom now to 7th in the space of 5 games seems a task, but it’s achievable! Can't knock your optimistic prediction as most of us didn't foresee things being this bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, JimCornette said: Can't knock your optimistic prediction as most of us didn't foresee things being this bad. Haha op slightly off but as you say dont think any of us would have thought we'd be so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 01/02/2020 at 06:25, BackOfTheNet said: Now that the transfer window is closed we can get back to the on pitch matters! February could be a really good month for us potentially, with 4 of the 5 league games very winnable and a cup game against lower league opposition. Out of curiosity I thought I’d look not only at our next 5 fixtures, but of the other teams as well and then look at the table. Currently the table looks like this: 1. Celtic 61 2. Rangers 56 3. Motherwell 41 4. Aberdeen 37 5. Livingston 31 6. Hibernian 29 7. Kilmarnock 23 8. St. Johnstone 23 9. Ross County 22 10. St. Mirren 20 11. Hamilton 18 12. Hearts 17 Our next 5 league fixtures look like this: St. Johnstone v Hearts Hearts v Kilmarnock Celtic v Hearts Hearts v Hamilton St. Mirren v Hearts Looking at those fixtures an optimist would say 12 points is very doable. Celtic is the game which will for obvious reasons be likely out of reach for points. As the Ross County game shows just because we can beat a team doesn’t mean we will. But realistically 4 wins out 5 is doable. That’s not me getting ahead of myself, I’m very aware I may need to curb my enthusiasm, games against those teams are very winnable. So, what if we do gain 12 out of 15 points, where could we be in the table come the end of February as we go into the derby match at Easter Road. I’ve had a wee gander at the upcoming fixtures for the other teams too and after a few win/lose/draw predictions, this is something what I think the table will look like: PREDICTED TABLE BY END OF FEBRUARY: 1. Celtic 76 2. Rangers 71 3. Motherwell 49 4. Aberdeen 46 5. Hibernian 39 6. Livingston 35 7. Hearts 29 8. Kilmarnock 25 9. St. Johnstone 25 10. Ross County 25 11. St. Mirren 21 12. Hamilton 20 As I’ve stated this is merely a prediction. We may not get 12 points or close to it, time will tell. Point I’m making is we could and even to a lesser extent should get that many points. Obviously there’s room for manoeuvre too, like the cluster of St. Johnstone, County and Kilmarnock, they could end up completely different. Livingston/Hibs and Aberdeen/Motherwell may switch around too. Apologies for the long post. Just wanted to see what things could potentially look like if we keep up the good work. From being bottom now to 7th in the space of 5 games seems a task, but it’s achievable! Looks fine in hindsight " hope your right ,looks s lot better from way up there 🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻👍♥️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Genuinely hoped people had forgot this thread existed. That’ll teach me for being optimistic for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 A couple of wins for us could change everything. Need to pull them from somewhere. I've got this sick feeling its going to come down to another teams result or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory McNamara Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Let's hope for a change. The team looks better in the attacking zone. Walker, Boyce and Zlamal will have another chance to show something. A few wins and the sun will shine again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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