Ainsley Harriott Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Fair to say lots of us would like to see a football savvy CEO take over after Ann is bought out by the foundation. Who do we think we should target? I'm going to suggest Kirsten Callaghan after 8 years doing a solid job at Killie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Craig Levein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 This is a bit like trying to identify a new manager, since you’ve no idea who would be interested in the job, should it arise. Alan Burrows seems to have done some very good work with Motherwell, but I’m pretty sure he’s a Motherwell supporter. That might be his dream job tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 David Southern suit anyone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Are there any football savvy ceo's or owners. Looking, even in Scotland Aberdeen, no Celtic no Rangers no Hibs no In England, Liverpool, man City, arsenal, man Utd, no, no and nope. There will be some, I'm sure but money, leadership and common sense are far more important. This thing that our owner / ceo needs to be football savvy needs to go to the myth thread. Big Vlad..... Mercer, nope, nope. Hopefully Ann stays on, backs Stendel, gets a dof in place if that's our way and has learned from giving 1 person too much responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Craig Levein He can't be dof and ceo...... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Craig Levein Not funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Would prefer a football person. (Though Smith's right boot makes a good point). Ann Budge was good option in the transition to financial health. But lost us 2/3 years progress with a poor football decision. Albeit she changed it to what could be a very good decision. Football people make poor decisions too. But I think the whole club could be transformed further. Edited January 21, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Meadows said: David Southern suit anyone ? Not funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Are there any football savvy ceo's or owners. Looking, even in Scotland Aberdeen, no Celtic no Rangers no Hibs no In England, Liverpool, man City, arsenal, man Utd, no, no and nope. There will be some, I'm sure but money, leadership and common sense are far more important. This thing that our owner / ceo needs to be football savvy needs to go to the myth thread. Big Vlad..... Mercer, nope, nope. Hopefully Ann stays on, backs Stendel, gets a dof in place if that's our way and has learned from giving 1 person too much responsibility. Ann Budge is too soft with contractors £12 million jumps to £22 million + , our pitch cost £ 1 million and it’s a mess, Cathro & Levein have cost us millions by signing duds many of them we couldn’t get rid of because of the length contracts, which Budge should never of allowed and she still has Levein working for Hearts which is astonishing after the damage he has done. And you want her to stay on ! Edited January 21, 2020 by mitch41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: He can't be dof and ceo...... 😉 While making Daniel's cup of coffee too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, mitch41 said: Ann Budge is too soft with contractors £12 million jumps to £22 million + Ann Budge got the stand built. Job done 👍 All I care about. It's magnificent and will serve us for decades. I have no technical expertise on building a stand, the costs involved or the contract negotiations, so I'll defer to your intimate knowledge and skill set on that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, Enzo Chiefo said: While making Daniel's cup of coffee too..... And being medical chief and head groundsman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Are there any football savvy ceo's or owners. Looking, even in Scotland Aberdeen, no Celtic no Rangers no Hibs no In England, Liverpool, man City, arsenal, man Utd, no, no and nope. There will be some, I'm sure but money, leadership and common sense are far more important. This thing that our owner / ceo needs to be football savvy needs to go to the myth thread. Big Vlad..... Mercer, nope, nope. Hopefully Ann stays on, backs Stendel, gets a dof in place if that's our way and has learned from giving 1 person too much responsibility. Agree with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Fair to say lots of us would like to see a football savvy CEO take over No, would rather have a business savvy CEO. What's the point in having a Sporting Director (and Team Manager)? Great to have a Hearts supporting CEO - but better that they're not a 'meddler' in the playing side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Alan Burrows has turned Motherwell around after the shitshow Dempster left them with. However , I am not fussed about a football savvy person. Thats what the Sporting Director should be doing Edited January 21, 2020 by sadj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hackney Hearts said: No, would rather have a business savvy CEO. What's the point in having a Sporting Director (and Team Manager)? Great to have a Hearts supporting CEO - but better that they're not a 'meddler' in the playing side. correct Ann is definitely business savvy and i personally would like her to stay on although having spoke with her at the Hogmanay night in the Skyline lounge i'm not too sure if she will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Will the football savvy CEO also bring benefactors with them or will we just do without that cash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 No-one suggested Tom English yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 If CL is even serving pies from the kiosk at half time it’ll be season no2 without a ST for I🤬🤨😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Thomson Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Psychedelicropcircle said: If CL is even serving pies from the kiosk at half time it’ll be season no2 without a ST for I🤬🤨😂 It will be your loss 🙁 good things are coming!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ribble said: Will the football savvy CEO also bring benefactors with them or will we just do without that cash? Exactly. Anne has held her hands up in terms of the mistakes she has made. The overspend on the stand will be recovered in the ensuing years many times over. Fixed assets are the hub of every business and pivotal to generating revenue.Her main mistake was allowing Levein to place her in an invidious situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 It would surprise me if firstly Ann wasn’t already looking at who will replace her. I also think it will be someone she knows personally. Perhaps even someone from inside her business contacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, 132goals1958 said: Exactly. Anne has held her hands up in terms of the mistakes she has made. The overspend on the stand will be recovered in the ensuing years many times over. Fixed assets are the hub of every business and pivotal to generating revenue.Her main mistake was allowing Levein to place her in an invidious situation. We will be paying for both for years to come. There is a valid argument that the latter won’t be as damaging financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Shark Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Meadows said: David Southern suit anyone ? Suits you sir ? Edited January 21, 2020 by Paul Shark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Would Budge even want to stay on, given some of the immature nonsense written about her by our own fans? Killing our club etc, it's embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, Jambo83 said: Would Budge even want to stay on, given some of the immature nonsense written about her by our own fans? Killing our club etc, it's embarrassing. I don’t think she’ll be basing her decision on a few rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Boab said: We will be paying for both for years to come. There is a valid argument that the latter won’t be as damaging financially. As a previous poster alluded to I don,t think we can under-estimate the almost nine million donation from benefactors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Couldn’t give a flying **** unless he can score goals or stop them going in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, 132goals1958 said: As a previous poster alluded to I don,t think we can under-estimate the almost nine million donation from benefactors Of course not. Mistakes have been made but, hopefully, leaving CL in charge 5 months too long will pale into insignificance if we survive this season. The stand will still have to be paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hercules said: Couldn’t give a flying **** unless he can score goals or stop them going in. Your modern CEO would surely be expected to do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: Would prefer a football person. (Though Smith's right boot makes a good point). Ann Budge was good option in the transition to financial health. But lost us 2/3 years progress with a poor football decision. Albeit she changed it to what could be a very good decision. Football people make poor decisions too. But I think the whole club could be transformed further. Gordon Smith 99% of people would say is a football man. I doubt more than 9% say he did a good job as head honcho at the SFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Donald Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fonz Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I don't think it necessarily needs to be someone from football/sport. Would quite happily look at credible candidates from other commercial areas. Ultimately we aren't going to find someone who is going to be hands-on in every aspect of the role. Ideally we need to look at someone who is going to provide sound leadership and bring in the right people in senior leadership roles to deliver their strategy for the club. The primary area where Ann has failed has been the football on the park. She gave far too much time to the wrong person/group of people and failed to hold them accountable. I think any competent CEO would have known it was essential to get rid of Levein based on results and performances long before she did, regardless of whether they are a "football person" or not. With the stand and the costs coming in far above what was initially quoted I don't think Ann would be someone who would be involved in a hands-on capacity for a large-scale infrastructure project. However, she should have had someone in place to be accountable for the build and the budget of the project (perhaps she did, but questions need to be asked about that persons performance). Assuming we can stay up this season I think it will be an attractive proposition to a lot of good people. It's a huge appointment for us and it is absolutely vital we get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Regulars will know I am not one to blow smoke up the sheeps airse, however I believe they have a guy called Rob Wicks I think, who is very adept. If he fancied a change of scenery https://www.insider.co.uk/special-reports/insider-football-finance-index-2018-12511278 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Fair to say lots of us would like to see a football savvy CEO take over after Ann is bought out by the foundation. Who do we think we should target? I'm going to suggest Kirsten Callaghan after 8 years doing a solid job at Killie. CPR's doing nothing.....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 We've missed a good one in Trevor Birch who became CE at Swansea in March 2019. His background would have made him eminently suited and he knew our club well due to being joint administrator alongside Bryan Jackson back in 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Birch Talking of Bryan Jackson ? He may not have the football background of Birch but strikes me as someone who could still do an excellent job for us? https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/140091-bryan-jackson-bdo-a-huge-thank-you/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: Exactly. Anne has held her hands up in terms of the mistakes she has made. The overspend on the stand will be recovered in the ensuing years many times over. Fixed assets are the hub of every business and pivotal to generating revenue.Her main mistake was allowing Levein to place her in an invidious situation. I've seen the bit in bold written a few times, but never had an answer to the following questions. When will the project: A) break even? B ) start making a profit? C) how will it generate £30/40 million pounds of additional profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Will be very difficult to get anyone better than Ann Budge I'd ask her to stay o another year while someone else is identified and eased into the role. Would prefer a person with financial savvy - Bryan Jackson comes to mind but I am not sure he has the right skill set or experience, albeit he certainly knows the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Taffin said: I've seen the bit in bold written a few times, but never had an answer to the following questions. When will the project: A) break even? B ) start making a profit? C) how will it generate £30/40 million pounds of additional profit? It is already making a profit, our substantial increase in turnover show's that. It will generate those numbers over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Budge to stay if we can keep the mystery benefactors. Budge to leave if they will still be benefactors anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 She has to get the Sporting Director in the door, she picked a great manager so we now need someone NEW to work alongside him. As it’s been said if they get the right person the CEO looks after the business side and trusts the football experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, mitch41 said: Ann Budge is too soft with contractors £12 million jumps to £22 million + , our pitch cost £ 1 million and it’s a mess, Cathro & Levein have cost us millions by signing duds many of them we couldn’t get rid of because of the length contracts, which Budge should never of allowed and she still has Levein working for Hearts which is astonishing after the damage he has done. And you want her to stay on ! Remember that once FoH takes over as majority shareholder, Ann Budge's relationship with the club will be different to what it is now. So those things that you mention were done by her, in the best interests of the club I presume, but it was the club SHE owned, so no real accountability/checks or balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceefax Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Simon Jordan for me. Doubt he’d come but would be a fantastic appointment for the football club if he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, Boris said: Remember that once FoH takes over as majority shareholder, Ann Budge's relationship with the club will be different to what it is now. So those things that you mention were done by her, in the best interests of the club I presume, but it was the club SHE owned, so no real accountability/checks or balance. Indeed, though you could argue there was risk, if not an accountability in that she had her investment in the club plus the value of her retained shareholding to protect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, scott herbertson said: Indeed, though you could argue there was risk, if not an accountability in that she had her investment in the club plus the value of her retained shareholding to protect. True, but I was meaning more from a boardroom perspective. Ultimately the buck stops/stopped with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 JK Rowling. (Just for her cash) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, Noah Claypole said: Donald Trump. He'd make us great again. Get hibs to pay for our stand as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Anybody that is bored and has cash tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: Are there any football savvy ceo's or owners. Looking, even in Scotland Aberdeen, no Celtic no Rangers no Hibs no In England, Liverpool, man City, arsenal, man Utd, no, no and nope. There will be some, I'm sure but money, leadership and common sense are far more important. This thing that our owner / ceo needs to be football savvy needs to go to the myth thread. Big Vlad..... Mercer, nope, nope. Hopefully Ann stays on, backs Stendel, gets a dof in place if that's our way and has learned from giving 1 person too much responsibility. Nearly every single post you get it spot on. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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