coatbridgejambo Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Salad Fingers said: Quite right. It's a mugs game as they say. Always wondered who "they" were right enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairdin Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) Some excellent posts and debates on this thread. I hope Brian Rice gets the help he needs for his illness. What he doesn't need is thrown to the wolves by the football authorities, who do very well out of gambling. Edited January 20, 2020 by blairdin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 He's had a very sympathetic response from within football, despite telling his current employer that those problems were behind him. He may have been optimistically deceiving himself rather than intentionally lying. Addictive behaviour can be difficult to control even when there is no physical substance dependency. This the bit where some probably struggle to accept it termed as a disease. Part of the sympathetic response has been based on the fact he came forward and brought it to the fore. It's often the case that the tabloids have the information and the person involved can only take some control by pre-empting them. If he's come forward by his choice alone, he's more likely to be able to succeed in sorting himself out imo. Good luck to him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS' Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 9 hours ago, He Who Cannot Be Named said: I'm sorry but gambling is a personal choice, not a disease. I will have to assume your ignorance comes from lack of life experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS' Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Spellczech said: Yeah but doctors pretend that they can diagnose depression and back pain - but they can't - which is why the workshy all get sicknotes for depression, back pain, labyrinthitis etc... Go to any doctor for pain of any sort and they will offer you drugs, may just be ibuprofen or paracetamol but the prescription offer is there, always, even if it is cheaper to go across the road and buy the ibuprofen at Tesco... Thing is people trust doctors and people want to trust doctors. Therefore, if you want to abuse people it is the best profession to be in...As is proven by all the pervs who form a line at the disciplinary committee of the GMC who then let them off with a little slap on the wrist. Have to be flipping Dr Harold Shipman-esque to be seen for what you are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 18 hours ago, Mysterion said: The fact that a Rice reported himself to the authorities is a very courageous move. I suspect he will receive a nominal fine because of the way it’s been handled. Did anything come from the alleged gambling issues that Leigh Griffiths has suffered from? Was surprised there was no SFA action given the volume of stories in the media. 11 hours ago, farin said: Piece from Sky on it. Currently the issue is managed by 'crisis management' hoping it will go away or not tarnish the reputation of the game. An amnesty could open it all up so would need to a comprehensive plan. Including support and then revised punishments once over. Of course also an amnesty could produced zero admitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 He’ll be glad he spoke out. It’s the hardest thing to do, but the best thing to do. I’ve faced a lot of challenges in life, with gambling being at the forefront of it. During the Cheltenham Festival last year I decided that was it and I’m stopping. Since the third day of the festival, I self excluded from all the gambling sites I was a member of online and I haven’t had a single horse, dog, football acca or anything of the sort on and I’ve never felt healthier. Easily the best decision I’ve ever made in my life. More needs to be said about Scottish football being heavily tattoo’d by betting companies, all 3 tournaments are sponsored by different companies ffs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: He’ll be glad he spoke out. It’s the hardest thing to do, but the best thing to do. I’ve faced a lot of challenges in life, with gambling being at the forefront of it. During the Cheltenham Festival last year I decided that was it and I’m stopping. Since the third day of the festival, I self excluded from all the gambling sites I was a member of online and I haven’t had a single horse, dog, football acca or anything of the sort on and I’ve never felt healthier. Easily the best decision I’ve ever made in my life. More needs to be said about Scottish football being heavily tattoo’d by betting companies, all 3 tournaments are sponsored by different companies ffs!! Good on you, RRP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 hours ago, VALDOS' said: They can't. There is a checklist of indicators but mental illness cannot be diagnosed. If you know what to say you can fake it easily... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Diego10 said: What a load of pish You're proving my point about the blind faith people have in the medical profession. I know a lot of doctors and some of them are the most reprehensible people I've ever met: serial philanderers, sexual perverts, I know one who drunkenly ran down a street over cars and smashing wing mirrors ( let off with a warning at disciplinary) and another who was struck off in the UK for faking his CV - he practices abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, redjambo said: Good on you, RRP. Thanks mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) What we learned at school today mummy. Doctors are humans too. Some of them have human character flaws. Well done Timmy. Have a Jaffa Cake. Edited January 21, 2020 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Spellczech said: You're proving my point about the blind faith people have in the medical profession. I know a lot of doctors and some of them are the most reprehensible people I've ever met: serial philanderers, sexual perverts, I know one who drunkenly ran down a street over cars and smashing wing mirrors ( let off with a warning at disciplinary) and another who was struck off in the UK for faking his CV - he practices abroad. Great evidence for your fantasy nonsense here. How many is 'a lot' btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tito5195 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 20/01/2020 at 13:53, He Who Cannot Be Named said: I'm sorry but gambling is a personal choice, not a disease. an ignorant comment from no dought someone who has major issues himself fa##y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 People make their own choices. Any addiction is obviously harmful but at the end of the day it's their own decision. Of course, where possible help, but there are hundreds of different addictions, some more harmful than others. Sometimes people just have to sort themselves out. If Rice wasn't in the game nobody would give a fk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Already announced that Ladbrokes won't be extending their sponsorship of the league. Wonder how the genius, Doncaster, will earn his salary and bonus by having to look further than the end of his nose for a replacement, assuming he isn't crass enough to settle for another gambling sponsor. Whether anyone likes it or not, it is not going to be very clever continuing to advertise gambling, where the temptation for corruption on the field comes from it. There was a time when Snooker and F1 were reckoned to be completely dependent on tobacco advertising. They had to look elsewhere, and have a bit of "out the box" thinking, and are still thriving. Time will tell if Scottish football is capable of such successful change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Neil Lennon was casting his expert doubt on the harm caused by betting company football sponsorship. Nae possible confliction between his honest opinion and his club's commercial partners like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armstrong Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 9 hours ago, Spellczech said: You're proving my point about the blind faith people have in the medical profession. I know a lot of doctors and some of them are the most reprehensible people I've ever met: serial philanderers, sexual perverts, I know one who drunkenly ran down a street over cars and smashing wing mirrors ( let off with a warning at disciplinary) and another who was struck off in the UK for faking his CV - he practices abroad. Lol. You could say that about any profession. Being a doctor doesn't automatically mean that you morally pure and an upstanding citizen. They are just like the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Diego10 said: Great evidence for your fantasy nonsense here. How many is 'a lot' btw? Several more than some, a few less than very many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Victorian said: Neil Lennon was casting his expert doubt on the harm caused by betting company football sponsorship. Nae possible confliction between his honest opinion and his club's commercial partners like. Wife and I spotted the hypocrisy there instantly from a man who will throw the depression card out there at the drop of a hat. Of course the betting company's name on the sponsor board behind popcorn teeth was a bit obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 match touchline ban (another 5 suspended) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51309399 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: 5 match touchline ban (another 5 suspended) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51309399 Needed punished and is accepting of it. Hoepfully he is over it and its all in the past now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrumpet Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 21/01/2020 at 09:00, RustyRightPeg said: He’ll be glad he spoke out. It’s the hardest thing to do, but the best thing to do. I’ve faced a lot of challenges in life, with gambling being at the forefront of it. During the Cheltenham Festival last year I decided that was it and I’m stopping. Since the third day of the festival, I self excluded from all the gambling sites I was a member of online and I haven’t had a single horse, dog, football acca or anything of the sort on and I’ve never felt healthier. Easily the best decision I’ve ever made in my life. More needs to be said about Scottish football being heavily tattoo’d by betting companies, all 3 tournaments are sponsored by different companies ffs!! Well done, keep at it, very hard thing to do and admit to. You should be proud of yourself. 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, TheTrumpet said: Well done, keep at it, very hard thing to do and admit to. You should be proud of yourself. 👍👍 Thanks mate. Not sure if there’s a thread for it already, but I do feel one should be made for folk wanting to speak out about their struggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JamboAndrew Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 11 hours ago, indianajones said: Needed punished and is accepting of it. Hoepfully he is over it and its all in the past now. Sends out the right message. Admit the issues. Ask for help. And accept a lenient punishment as no one should escape consequences. Best of luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 an international player was banned for 8 games with 6 of those suspended for betting on games. all this was kept secret by the sfa https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sfa-chiefs-secret-gambling-ban-21412212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, milky_26 said: an international player was banned for 8 games with 6 of those suspended for betting on games. all this was kept secret by the sfa https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sfa-chiefs-secret-gambling-ban-21412212 Fraser Aird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Fraser Aird Prominent player, Aird has played for a string of wee diddy teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, RudiHMFC said: Prominent player, Aird has played for a string of wee diddy teams. Shows need to read things more carefully. I assumed it was a Scottish international. But report actually said "an international". Cove Rangers decision to sack him maybe in a different light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 A number of players getting suspensions under the radar. Might explain why some our two week injuries lasted months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Fort Vallance said: A number of players getting suspensions under the radar. Might explain why some our two week injuries lasted months. No You are looking at players missing 2-4 games. Sanctions are generally suspended. Fraser Aird was 2 match ban with another 8 suspended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 14 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: No You are looking at players missing 2-4 games. Sanctions are generally suspended. Fraser Aird was 2 match ban with another 8 suspended 14 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: No You are looking at players missing 2-4 games. Sanctions are generally suspended. Fraser Aird was 2 match ban with another 8 suspended It wasn't a serious suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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